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In answer to Sorryaboutthatchief's question the goblin line was recited by Dee Dee just after they moved to the back of the ship. In regards to the two year thing, well the Weeping Angels were meant to be a one-off as well, but they proved to be so popular they were brought back for this series. And the Midnight Entity has been widely discussed among fans ever since the episode aired.[[User:Burnup15|Burnup15]] 12:08, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | In answer to Sorryaboutthatchief's question the goblin line was recited by Dee Dee just after they moved to the back of the ship. In regards to the two year thing, well the Weeping Angels were meant to be a one-off as well, but they proved to be so popular they were brought back for this series. And the Midnight Entity has been widely discussed among fans ever since the episode aired.[[User:Burnup15|Burnup15]] 12:08, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:No, I meant the first thing, about the season finale enemy. Is that from Amy's Choice? Because I haven't seen that one yet, what with BBC's " | :No, I meant the first thing, about the season finale enemy. Is that from Amy's Choice? Because I haven't seen that one yet, what with BBC's "America stays two weeks behind" policy that I hate so much. [[User:Sorryaboutthatchief|Sorryaboutthatchief]] 06:08, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Just adding another piece of evidence I just thought of. According to the Doctor the Pandorica is a fairytale. Well we've already met a Time Lord fairytale, namely the Toclofane. And who gave them their name? Uh-huh. I've got that much time on my hands.[[User:Burnup15|Burnup15]] 12:08, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | Just adding another piece of evidence I just thought of. According to the Doctor the Pandorica is a fairytale. Well we've already met a Time Lord fairytale, namely the Toclofane. And who gave them their name? Uh-huh. I've got that much time on my hands.[[User:Burnup15|Burnup15]] 12:08, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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So then it does look like it could be the master, maybe moffat will do a surprise like army of ghosts and have the master pop out like the daleks, he already said no returning monsters but the daleks showed up and the cybermen are set for anothr comeback. He might not replace John Simm though because Anthony Ainley was the master for 4 doctors, then again Simms master is in a dying body, but he's back on Gallifrey when he went into the time war so he might get something there to help him. Winehousefan, 14:08, May 21, 2010 [UTC] | So then it does look like it could be the master, maybe moffat will do a surprise like army of ghosts and have the master pop out like the daleks, he already said no returning monsters but the daleks showed up and the cybermen are set for anothr comeback. He might not replace John Simm though because Anthony Ainley was the master for 4 doctors, then again Simms master is in a dying body, but he's back on Gallifrey when he went into the time war so he might get something there to help him. Winehousefan, 14:08, May 21, 2010 [UTC] | ||
:Yeah, I'm sure they were happy to help the Master survive after he went "Shoop da Whoop" on Rassilon and doomed them to hell | :Yeah, I'm sure they were happy to help the Master survive after he went "Shoop da Whoop" on Rassilon and doomed them to hell for all eternity, lol. [[User:Sorryaboutthatchief|Sorryaboutthatchief]] 06:11, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I know a lot of people probably haven't heard them, but if we're talking about Gallifreyan fairy tales, then maybe I should the legend of Zagreus from the Big Finish audios. There are a lot of parallels between this current arc and the early Eighth Doctor audios. The cracks have the same effect as the oubliette of eternity (the device that sent people to the anti-time universe), in that they erase people from history. Anti-time itself could also do that. The cracks have something to do with Amy, while the web of time splitting (which in turn opened the anti-time universe) was caused by the Doctor saving Charley Pollard. And the doctor mentioned an explosion in Flesh and Stone, and the Divergence would supposedly return to our universe after an explosion. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 17:37, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | I know a lot of people probably haven't heard them, but if we're talking about Gallifreyan fairy tales, then maybe I should the legend of Zagreus from the Big Finish audios. There are a lot of parallels between this current arc and the early Eighth Doctor audios. The cracks have the same effect as the oubliette of eternity (the device that sent people to the anti-time universe), in that they erase people from history. Anti-time itself could also do that. The cracks have something to do with Amy, while the web of time splitting (which in turn opened the anti-time universe) was caused by the Doctor saving Charley Pollard. And the doctor mentioned an explosion in Flesh and Stone, and the Divergence would supposedly return to our universe after an explosion. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 17:37, May 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:::Although I definitely don't think the Master is the Midnight entity, and I don't think the Midnight entity will be returning (remember, the Weeping Angels were the Moff's creation, while Midnight was RTD's), the idea of the Master being near death and desperately seeking a physical form isn't bad. That gets us back to (more or less) the classic-series Master, just as VotD got us back to (more or less) the classic Daleks. | :::Although I definitely don't think the Master is the Midnight entity, and I don't think the Midnight entity will be returning (remember, the Weeping Angels were the Moff's creation, while Midnight was RTD's), the idea of the Master being near death and desperately seeking a physical form isn't bad. That gets us back to (more or less) the classic-series Master, just as VotD got us back to (more or less) the classic Daleks. | ||
:::Also, the Zagreus plotline connection is interesting. The Moff, like RTD, is a big Doctor Who fanboy, and hangs out with other fanboys like Paul Cornell, and I wouldn't put it past him to take elements from the novels that he enjoyed and rework them into something different (as RTD reworked the Time War against The Enemy into the LGTW against the Daleks, and had Paul Cornell rework Human Nature even more directly). And the fact that the later BFAs contradicted the early ones in their belated attempt to fit in with the EDA continuity means it's even easier to throw away and rework the early ones. | :::Also, the Zagreus plotline connection is interesting. The Moff, like RTD, is a big Doctor Who fanboy, and hangs out with other fanboys like Paul Cornell, and I wouldn't put it past him to take elements from the novels that he enjoyed and rework them into something different (as RTD reworked the Time War against The Enemy into the LGTW against the Daleks, and had Paul Cornell rework Human Nature even more directly). And the fact that the later BFAs contradicted the early ones in their belated attempt to fit in with the EDA continuity means it's even easier to throw away and rework the early ones. | ||
:::As for the Moff laughing at the fans with their crazy, stupid ideas--well, yeah, that's probably half of what he loves about his job. :) --12:15, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | :::As for the Moff laughing at the fans with their crazy, stupid ideas--well, yeah, that's probably half of what he loves about his job. :) --12:15, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||