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'''Inclusion debates''' are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.  
'''Inclusion debates''' are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.  


=== In greater detail ==
=== In greater detail ===
These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we ''want'' to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, ''not'' whether you ''like'' a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "[[Tardis:Canon policy|canon]]".  
These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we ''want'' to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, ''not'' whether you ''like'' a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "[[Tardis:Canon policy|canon]]".  


An important note: the name means that these are debates ''about'' inclusion, not necessarily debates arguing ''for'' inclusion: for example, if a source is currently valid, but you have evidence that its status should be changed to invalid, this is also the place to discuss it.  
An important note: the name means that these are debates ''about'' inclusion, not necessarily debates arguing ''for'' inclusion: for example, if a source is currently valid, but you have evidence that its status should be changed to invalid, this is also the place to discuss it.  


=== When policy changes ===
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Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a [[Forum:The Panopticon]] thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know ''from the start'' that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with.
Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a [[Forum:The Panopticon]] thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know ''from the start'' that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with.


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Latest revision as of 20:52, 4 June 2023

What to do with you? I wonder.

Welcome to the Tardis inclusion debates!

Inclusion debates are a specific type of Forum thread. They deal in serious, unbiased analysis of stories or sometimes entire series, to check whether they pass the four little rules of Tardis:Valid sources and all their corollaries, so that we may determine if they should be covered-as-valid, covered-as-invalid, or not covered at all.

In greater detail

These threads are fact-finding and policy-reviewing efforts, and also serve to test the community's opinion; in some edge cases, the community's consensus on whether we want to cover something will serve as a tiebreaker — though even such a decision should be phrased in terms of the good of the Wiki, not whether you like a given piece, or whether you believe it to be "canon".

An important note: the name means that these are debates about inclusion, not necessarily debates arguing for inclusion: for example, if a source is currently valid, but you have evidence that its status should be changed to invalid, this is also the place to discuss it.

When policy changes

Sometimes, properly accounting for a new and peculiar case which isn't properly accounted for by current policy, means that an inclusion debate will end up doing double-duty, and also being a "policy changer" in the vein of a Forum:The Panopticon thread. This is fine and expected. However, if you know from the start that what you are proposing is an alteration to policy rather than a specific debate about how to cover something in particular, it would be better to open the thread in the Panopticon to start with.

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Inclusion debates (sorted by last edit date)
10 April 2024Inclusion debate: The works of Douglas Adams16:02, 5 November 2024Scrooge MacDuck
10 February 2024Validity: AU games16:14, 23 September 2024Cookieboy 2005
30 June 2023BBC-produced shows and episodes that make extensive use of DWU elements22:01, 12 September 2024Borisashton
16 July 2023A Fix with Sontarans: Fixing Fix's Validity21:54, 30 August 2024Cookieboy 2005
6 March 2024Coverage quickie: the individual "It's Showtime" continuity tags14:24, 25 August 2024Cookieboy 2005
19 July 2024Validity: An Adventure in Space and Time22:12, 21 July 2024Najawin
17 September 2023Coverage/validity: In the Domain of the Daleks22:36, 28 February 2024OttselSpy25
28 October 2023Just how do we cover that time when Katy Manning, in character as Iris Wildthyme, showed up at the Utopia convention and was interviewed by Paul Magrs?21:54, 28 October 2023Najawin
10 July 2023Roland Rat: The Series19:16, 11 September 2023Danochy
21 May 2023Inclusion debates20:52, 4 June 2023OncomingStorm12th