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 :: If I'm reading you right, I think you've somehow misinterpreted me as saying that we should try and probe the writer's intention: put the Zygon line in #Continuity ''if'' it's "intended to reference that prior work" and in #Worldbuilding ''if'' it's "just intended to reference the things mentioned in that prior work". I agree this would be insane and unenforceable, but that is not at all what I'm saying. The Doctor mentioning that he once fought Zygons in Scotland ''is objectively'' both an in-universe reference to the Zygon species, thus warranting inclusion in #Worldbuilding, ''and'' a continuity-reference to the particular story ''[[Terror of the Zygons (TV story)|Terror of the Zygons]]'', thus warranting inclusion in #Continuity. And we should thus cover the line in both sections, at the same time, but ''from different points of view'' — much as we functionally write "Astrolabus is in it" twice over the length of the ''[[Polly the Glot (comic story)|Polly the Glot]]'' page, for different reasons. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 00:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
+:::Hmm. I guess the Slitheen example shows this insofar as you've walled off ''plot relevant'' things from references/worldbuilding, maybe. Surely this is a woefully inelegant solution at best. (I note that this walling off should have us question the usage of the Astrolabus metaphor, no? We hardly wall off plot relevant characters.)
+::::I think you've somehow misinterpreted me as saying that we should try and probe the writer's intention: put the Zygon line in #Continuity ''if'' it's "intended to reference that prior work" and in #Worldbuilding ''if'' it's "just intended to reference the things mentioned in that prior work". I agree this would be insane and unenforceable, but that is not at all what I'm saying. The Doctor mentioning that he once fought Zygons in Scotland ''is objectively'' both an in-universe reference to the Zygon species
+:::See: Android boyfriend. There is no objective standard here that you're proposing. There's a subjective standard - what we decide. I would very much like a coherent, clear standard. But it's very obviously true that there are cases where comments are veiled and there's just no metric you've given for how we can try to place things in the appropriate sections. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:22, 1 August 2023 (UTC)