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Although, also, with those bits removed, I don't really see why you wouldn't be able to do the move yourself? [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrahc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Although, also, with those bits removed, I don't really see why you wouldn't be able to do the move yourself? [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrahc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


:: I'm not convinced. Unless specific valid sources ''depict'' them as "universes" in their own right, I don't think we should create pages for every last state of the palimpsest. In theory the palimpsest-universe way of looking at the concept of time being rewritten means that there's a "Universe where little Amelia dropped her ice-cream" that gets rewritten with a "Universe where an adult Amy bought little Amelia a new one" as per ''[[Night and the Doctor]]'', but that's just not how the story itself thinks about this. We can't start creating a retroactive palimpsest-universe page for every version of the future that gets overwritten by later TV continuity. And I just don't think any of the quotes provided at your sandbox are ''framing'' the Metaltron's state of reality in terms of being a distinct universe from what replaced it. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
:: I'm not convinced. Unless specific valid sources ''depict'' them as "universes" in their own right, I don't think we should create pages for every last state of the palimpsest. In theory the palimpsest-universe way of looking at the concept of time being rewritten means that there's a "Universe where little Amelia dropped her ice-cream" that gets overwritten with a "Universe where an adult Amy bought little Amelia a new one" as per ''[[Night and the Doctor]]'', but that's just not how the story itself thinks about this. We can't start creating a retroactive palimpsest-universe page for every version of the future that gets overwritten by later TV continuity. And I just don't think any of the quotes provided at your sandbox are ''framing'' the Metaltron's state of reality in terms of being a distinct universe from what replaced it. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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IndexThe Panopticon → Metaltron reality
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Opening post

Not a lot to say here, just a request that User:MrThermomanPreacher/Sandbox/Metaltron timeline be moved into the main namespace. Feel free to remove some of the headcanony palimpsest universe stuff if deemed necessary. MrThermomanPreacher 11:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

Could you remove some of the "headcanony palimpsest universe stuff" yourself, and then re-present the sandbox to this thread? Once we've established there's no headcanon (intentionally) there, I've no particular issue with this. Although, also, with those bits removed, I don't really see why you wouldn't be able to do the move yourself? Cousin Ettolrahc 12:14, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not convinced. Unless specific valid sources depict them as "universes" in their own right, I don't think we should create pages for every last state of the palimpsest. In theory the palimpsest-universe way of looking at the concept of time being rewritten means that there's a "Universe where little Amelia dropped her ice-cream" that gets overwritten with a "Universe where an adult Amy bought little Amelia a new one" as per Night and the Doctor, but that's just not how the story itself thinks about this. We can't start creating a retroactive palimpsest-universe page for every version of the future that gets overwritten by later TV continuity. And I just don't think any of the quotes provided at your sandbox are framing the Metaltron's state of reality in terms of being a distinct universe from what replaced it. Scrooge MacDuck 12:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)