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That being said, I had noticed that this Wiki's coverage of special features and the like is rather poor so I'm glad this thread is shining a light on the issue. I think my ideal scenario would be to reaffirm the existing policy of creating pages for collections and also go with OS25's idea of Home video subpages. The reason that I would prefer single subpages over separate articles is that I believe coverage of special features would be harmed to an extent by the latter. Readers should be able to see which extras are common among editions and splitting this info across several pages is needlessly unhelpful for this purpose in my opinion. [[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | That being said, I had noticed that this Wiki's coverage of special features and the like is rather poor so I'm glad this thread is shining a light on the issue. I think my ideal scenario would be to reaffirm the existing policy of creating pages for collections and also go with OS25's idea of Home video subpages. The reason that I would prefer single subpages over separate articles is that I believe coverage of special features would be harmed to an extent by the latter. Readers should be able to see which extras are common among editions and splitting this info across several pages is needlessly unhelpful for this purpose in my opinion. [[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:11, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | ||
: I agree with having separate pages, at the very least for collections (and will probably create ''[[Thunderbirds Complete Collection]]'' if this passes). [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:01, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: This is definetly an area where I feel the wiki's lacking and something I'd like to see in some form or another. However, I'm not convinced that each individual release should receive its own page: I feel that a subpage for each thing with at least one home video release would suffice and allow us greater depth to talk about differences between releases while still giving space for going more in depth on the quirks of each individual release. I also think that redirects should be created at <tt><nowiki>[[Story Title (home video)]]</nowiki></tt>, or similar, such as [[The Daleks (home video)]], as this is very helpful for linking: you can link to this instead of a regular story page and use the [[T:PIPE|pipe trick]] when linking to a page about home video releases would be more appropriate. | |||
:: I feel that, if ''[[The Collection]]'' boxsets get their own pages, regular 'New Who' series boxsets ought to as well, but, again, I think that separate pages are overkill. Surely a <tt>/Home video</tt> subpage of the relevant series page would suffice? Redirects could probably exist from names like [[The Collection Season 12]], but I don't see why a subpage wouldn't work. I feel that boxsets collecting stories that aren't from 1 series, such as ''[[Lost in Time (DVD box set)|Lost in Time]]'' and ''[[The Davros Collection]]'', should still receive pages and be {{tlx|main}}ed from the relevant subpages. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:13, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: How about instead of giving ''The Collection'' boxsets pages, we also allow seasons to have subpages? This would also be useful for ''Trial''/''Key to Time''. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 21:27, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::: Yes, that's what I'm saying. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:33, 9 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::: Upon reading this, I've changed my mind from above. I agree that seasons/series should have subpages, eg. "/home video" or "/releases". I think that'd be much tidier, and I think it's a more efficient system if they're linked. (Plus it would mean any variants could be together and reduce confusion, such as the way Season 12's Collection set in the US is marketed as "Tom Baker Season One". Putting both in a subpage branching off Season 12 is neater.) I agree with [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]]. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 18:25, 10 June 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Conclusion == | |||
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Well, this thread didn't get as much engagement as it might have done, but I do think it reached a fairly clear consensus, and I don't have a lot ot say. | |||
The clear consensus is that '''we should allow the creation of /Home_video subpages for both stories and seasons, allowing us to discuss both the specifities and the commonalities of the various home video editions of a given story or set of stories'''. It should be noted that in cases where only one or two home video editions of a given work/series exists, we should refrain from creating a ''subpage'', and simply use a ==Home video== subsection on the main page. In other words, normal subpage criteria (as also used for e.g. "/Non-valid_sources") apply. | |||
Redirects for the names of individual releases, like "[[Tom Baker Season One]]", should be created to these subpages/their relevant subsections. | |||
Additionally, '''pages about collections which don't correspond to a series or season page were always within policy''', and this is hereby reaffirmed. | |||
As a preemptive note for the future: this is a somewhat slow-traffic area of the Wiki compared to in-universe coverage, it always has been. I foresee that implementation might be sluggish. '''Let it be known that even if, in a year or two's time, there hasn't been much progress on these pages, this should not be grounds to repeal the present policy'''; the decision is taken in ''full knowledge'' of the fact that implementation might be slow. But this doesn't need to be perfect. The opportunity for such coverage existing is better than not, even if we lack any guarantee that implementation will be exhaustive anytime soon. | |||
Thank you to everyone who participated! [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 13:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
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