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:: I'll also vote for "Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story)" — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 18:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
:: I'll also vote for "Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story)" — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 18:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
:::I think Czech's arguments in 2008 that its title at the time was merely "Doctor Who" are quite persuasive. (As such, point '''f''' is simply false in the strong sense.) Whether or not we wish to keep this title is another matter. Czech argues we should because we care about ''accuracy''. Which Scrooge re-affirms to some extent at [[Forum:Relaxing T:HONOUR]]. It's different enough that I'm not sure it's binding here. But we at least need to consider the 2008 discussion and these factors. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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Move to Doctor Who: The Movie

The DVD releases have named this is as Doctor Who: The Movie. Should we move it in deference to the most recent official title?The Traveller 09:04, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

No. Doctor Who (1996) or, even better, Doctor Who (TV story) are the best choices. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 00:46, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I have question about Gareth. When the Doctor saw Gareth at the party, he told him to answer the 2nd question on his test. He mention that Gareth will save the world. Could this be an indirect reference to Gareth Jenkins from the In A Fix with the Sontarans bit done on the BBC show Jim'll Fix It? Just wondering. (Also, I thought the "title" to this show was "The Enemy Within", at least according to other references). Hope you can help out. Hotshot70 11:31, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

That's speculation, and that title has been identified as a nickname invented by a director or something. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 20:38, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Producer Phil Segal suggested it at a convention. 24.61.9.32talk to me 02:48, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

Production section

Given how in depth it is, along with how there doesn't seem to be that many production sections in general that I can think of, should there be citations given for all that information? -- Tybort (talk page) 01:47, November 1, 2013 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes info largely copied from "A Brief History of Time (Travel)"

Some minor changes, but essentially cut-and-pasted from here:

http://www.shannonsullivan.com/doctorwho/serials/tvm.html

Under Copyright and Disclaimer, SS says that people interested in reproducing his work can contact him, though.

http://www.shannonsullivan.com/doctorwho/siteinfo.html

Has anyone done so already? Perhaps he gave his permission? 24.61.9.32talk to me 00:20, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

This was actually addressed once, as can be seen in the archives of this talk page. However, there doesn't seem to have been any action taken.
If you could give the specific section title(s) that are copied, that would make it a bit easier to look into it. Thanks! Shambala108 03:02, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

20 20 Hindsight

A large period of time is implied to have passed since Survival, as the Seventh Doctor has parted with his companion Ace, is visibly older, is dressed differently and is travelling alone. The narration by the Eighth Doctor also states that at this time, he was "nearing the end of [his] Seventh..." life."

The sentence about nearing the end of his seventh life is nothing to do with how much time has passed since Survival. The Eighth doctor is narrating with hindsight, knowing he was soon to be shot.165.225.76.55talk to me 14:53, December 11, 2018 (UTC)

Infobox image 2021

The infobox image was changed without discussion last May. We should probably discuss this. Here are the three images that have recently been in the infobox here.

The current image is just of the Eighth Doctor. #1 is the climax, at least, and #2 is a notable moment with a secondary character. There are probably some other candidates already uploaded that present the main action in some way. In the meantime, I've temporarily changed the image back to #1, as it had been.
× SOTO (💬/📈/) 23:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Feel free to add more suggestions below. I'm thinking an image of Eight post-regen could also work. There's a few shots in the scene where he knocks down the steel door you can see in the video to the right. (Dunno if the "Who! Am! I!" scene has any decent shots?)
× SOTO (💬/📈/) 23:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Rename? 2023 discussion

Inspired by this tweet, and discussion beneath it, I thought I'd bring up the idea of changing the name of this page to (arguably) better suit its story/content.

  • a. Doctor Who can be quite confusing, given it's the name of the TV show as a whole.
  • b. Unconventional naming conventions shouldn't be alien to the Wiki where suitable.
  • c. It's only a small pool, but this poll here has approx. 750 votes at the time of writing and a large portion is skewed towards "The Movie".
  • d. "The TV Movie" is the title of the official novelisation and its reprint.
  • e. "The Movie" is used on the official DVD release.
  • f. "Doctor Who" arguably isn't the on screen title - that's the logo, which shows up in 99% of title sequences. As such, the product is untitled.
  • g. For newcomers and the not-we, "the Movie" is just a more efficient term which can be easily recognised and understood.
  • h. The screenshot seen in this tweet highlights that using "Doctor Who" can just read quite unusually on some articles, since it's the name of the entire series.

Fractal Doctor 09:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I would also like to add that the on-screen title for Season 23 is "The Trial of a Time Lord", but this Wiki uses individual titles such as "The Mysterious Planet". I feel this is a similar case and example of the Wiki deviating from the on-screen title. "TMP" (et al) also appear on the official releases and DVDs, etc. like "The Movie" does for the 1996 story. Fractal Doctor 09:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Also, "The TV Movie" is used here. Fractal Doctor 19:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
I support renaming the page as "The TV Movie (TV story)" or at least "Doctor Who (TV movie)". BananaClownMan 09:57, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Regardless on whether or not we do this rename for x y or z reasons, some options could be Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story) or Doctor Who (feature film). 14:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
Honestly, any of those suggested by BananaClownMan and Epsilon work, except for "The TV Movie (TV story)" which I feel sounds clunky with the double use of "TV". Arguably the most efficient move would simply to keep what we have but change "story" to "movie"? Or if not, my vote would go to Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story). Fractal Doctor 16:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
I think that "Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story)" works best. That's the title that is predominantly used in marketing and on releases of the movie, so it's not without precedent. Pluto2 18:20, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Just giving this a nudge - anyone else have opinions on this? I still think the page should be renamed to one of the variants suggested above. — Fractal Doctor @ 18:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

My preference would be Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story), I think it makes the most sense, and as User:Pluto2 says, has a degree of precedent in marketing, official releases etc. Aquanafrahudy 📢 18:55, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
I'll also vote for "Doctor Who: The Movie (TV story)" — Fractal Doctor @ 18:57, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
I think Czech's arguments in 2008 that its title at the time was merely "Doctor Who" are quite persuasive. (As such, point f is simply false in the strong sense.) Whether or not we wish to keep this title is another matter. Czech argues we should because we care about accuracy. Which Scrooge re-affirms to some extent at Forum:Relaxing T:HONOUR. It's different enough that I'm not sure it's binding here. But we at least need to consider the 2008 discussion and these factors. Najawin 19:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)