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:You can get a lot more input at [[Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC) | :You can get a lot more input at [[Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC) | ||
:: The text tells us that Rose is "non-binary", unambiguously. It focuses on an image of Rose while literally saying the word "non-binary" out loud. Even if that was RTD getting his terminology muddled up, well, [[T:NO RW]] applies, as do our rules against taking authorial intent as valid in itself: the valid source itself tells us Rose is "non-binary", we can't argue with that because we think possibly Davies said it by accident. (But then I don't think he did; later she cheerfully gets the "…and neither, and more" part of the punchline. I think it ''is'' pretty clearly the case that she's female-presenting non-binary.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 12:22, 30 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Deadname discussion
If you are here looking for the ongoing discussion regarding Rose's deadname, please click this link. Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble. Then, click the little "pencil" icon next to "Discussion", scroll to the bottom of the text, and when you've finished typing in your comment, add in four "~"s to sign your comment. We thank you for your feedback. Najawin ☎ 19:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Trans and Nonbinary
It was unclear in The Star Beast if Rose was nonbinary, I'm wondering if it might be best to leave her biography as just coming out as transgender, but it may also be prudent to wait for the remaining 2 specials to come out and see if there is anything that further clarifies this. I read that scene as RTD muddying a metaphor and conflating all transness with being nonbinary, but I could be wrong and would appreciate others thoughts. Hasrock36 ☎ 00:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- You can get a lot more input at Forum:Clarifying in-universe deadnaming policy in response to Rose Noble. Shambala108 ☎ 03:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- The text tells us that Rose is "non-binary", unambiguously. It focuses on an image of Rose while literally saying the word "non-binary" out loud. Even if that was RTD getting his terminology muddled up, well, T:NO RW applies, as do our rules against taking authorial intent as valid in itself: the valid source itself tells us Rose is "non-binary", we can't argue with that because we think possibly Davies said it by accident. (But then I don't think he did; later she cheerfully gets the "…and neither, and more" part of the punchline. I think it is pretty clearly the case that she's female-presenting non-binary.) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 12:22, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
