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Compare this to [[Wild Blue Yonder (TV story)]], where Newton ''does'' appear in the story, and multiple references are made to his earlier appearance later in the episode. There's just no comparison. I don't see the slightest argument for supporting the illustration here as the main infobox image. I'm more than willing to include it. But by no means should it be first because it was ''released'' first. The very idea is silly. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Compare this to [[Wild Blue Yonder (TV story)]], where Newton ''does'' appear in the story, and multiple references are made to his earlier appearance later in the episode. There's just no comparison. I don't see the slightest argument for supporting the illustration here as the main infobox image. I'm more than willing to include it. But by no means should it be first because it was ''released'' first. The very idea is silly. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
[[File:Portrait of Sir Isaac Newton, 1689.jpg|thumb|Portrait of Sir Isaac Newton, 1689.]]
: While Newton in ''Wild Blue Yonder'' is more prominently featured in its respective narrative than Newton in ''The Lonely Computer''... how do I phrase this carefully and respectfully... presumably every non-visual appearance of Newton is presumably in line with how Newton historically appeared rather than an actor who looked nothing like him, ''a la'' historically accurate [[Cleopatra]] vs [[Elizabeth Taylor]]'s Cleopatra. (Ironically the Taylor Cleo appeared in ''The Lonely Computer''.) {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 21:22, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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NPOV edit war

Alright, since I'm being accused of violating NPOV, let's take it to the talk page. While it's certainly the case that there are many other articles that prioritize other media over the show in terms of appearance, and I support those articles wholeheartedly, this isn't even slightly applicable to this situation. The illustration in question comes from The Lonely Computer which you can read here. The illustration with Newton is on the second page (of two), Newton is a background character, and Newton is not mentioned in the story. At all. Insofar as there is a reference it's "Standing about, looking annoyed, were some of history's most famous leaders, artists and scientists."

Newton does not appear in the story, and in the associated illustration he's a background element. Indeed, it's not even explicitly stated to be Newton.

Compare this to Wild Blue Yonder (TV story), where Newton does appear in the story, and multiple references are made to his earlier appearance later in the episode. There's just no comparison. I don't see the slightest argument for supporting the illustration here as the main infobox image. I'm more than willing to include it. But by no means should it be first because it was released first. The very idea is silly. Najawin 21:06, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

File:Portrait of Sir Isaac Newton, 1689.jpg
Portrait of Sir Isaac Newton, 1689.
While Newton in Wild Blue Yonder is more prominently featured in its respective narrative than Newton in The Lonely Computer... how do I phrase this carefully and respectfully... presumably every non-visual appearance of Newton is presumably in line with how Newton historically appeared rather than an actor who looked nothing like him, a la historically accurate Cleopatra vs Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra. (Ironically the Taylor Cleo appeared in The Lonely Computer.) 21:22, 2 December 2023 (UTC)