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== Are the things covered in the last few archives now fine for inclusion? ==
Name changed as stated by creator [https://twitter.com/Emily_Rosina/status/1244162833933352960 here] [[User:Toqgers|Toqgers]] [[User talk:Toqgers|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:07, March 29, 2020 (UTC)


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I am asking because the story has gotten continued, the Rule 2 exceptions and the case to be made for charity publications that had permission from the licence-holders (even though as argued they aren't technically using a commercial licence.)
 
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There is a Watchalong number 8 and number 10, but where is number 9? --[[User:Rübenbrei|Rübenbrei]] [[User talk:Rübenbrei|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:46, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
:I think that someone thought Human Nature / Family of Blood were to be counted seperately. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:52, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
 
== Paternoster Gang ==
Is the Paternoster Gang watch-along really part of this event? It had nothing to do with Emily Cook or the Lockdown! brand. It was organised solely by Big Finish. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:52, May 5, 2020 (UTC)
 
== Other Watchalongs ==
If we are to keep track of ALL tweetalong events during COVID-19 pandemics, I think these events should be added:
* ''[[Spyfall (TV story)|Spyfall]]'' watchalong hosted by [[BBC America]]. Although it didn't use hashtag, [[Sacha Dhawan]] joined the watchalong and tweeted his comments.
* Two [[Torchwood (TV series)|Torchwood]] watchalongs hosted by [[Radio Times]].
* Upcoming [[The Three Doctors (TV story)|The Three Doctors]] watchalong hosted by TardisMonkey (who arranged [[The Five Doctors (TV story)|The Five Doctors]] watchalong)
But is it really necessary? I mean, anyone can start a tweetalong event. If I arrange a tweetalong event, should it be covered by this article? I think we need some criteria for this article's coverage.--[[User:Wholmesian|Wholmesian]] [[User talk:Wholmesian|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:44, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
:I removed the Paternoser Gang watch-along because frankly it has nothing to do with this event, but someone else added it to a newly created “other” section. I agree that a I don’t think these should be covered, anyone can host a watch-along but none of these are part of the same event. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:32, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
That does seem a bit of a shame to remove The Five Doctors and the Big Finish ones, I agree that not every watch-along should be posted, but maybe keep it to anything endorsed or organised by Emily Cook or the BBC? I think that's a fair way of doing it if the "other" section is reinstated. [[User:VeryFerociousDrama|VeryFerociousDrama]] [[User talk:VeryFerociousDrama|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:35, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
::I think it's clear that any and all post-''Lockdown'', COVID-19-era ''Doctor Who'' tweetalongs are inspired by ''Lockdown!''. For that reason, so long as the deleted [[COVID-19]] page remains deleted, I think this is the best page to document all the ‘official’ watchalongs. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:50, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
 
== Non-Lockdown stories ==
so weve established that non-lockdown watchalongs shouldnt be included. so why sould non-lockdown stories like 'how the monk got his habit'? [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]]
:The issue is that the other watchalongs aren't part of any centralised event (or, in TARDIS Monkey's case, aren't in any way shape or form acknowledged by the BBC or other rightsholders). That obviously doesn't apply to something like ''[[Message from the Doctor (webcast)|Message from the Doctor]]''.
 
:Personally, I think they should remain included on this page, if they're covered on the Wiki, until such a time as we have a [[COVID-19]] page again. They might not be branded as ''Lockdown!'', but these "side-releases" are clearly revolving in the same noosphere, following the trail of the ball that Emily Cook got rolling. <small>Sorry for the tortured metaphor.</small> We ''should'' have a list of these somewhere, and this is as good a place as any.
 
:This is what the title of the section, "Associated releases" is supposed to convey. They're ''associated'' with ''Lockdown!'', so until we get a better idea, that's where we list them; but they're not necessarily ''part'' of ''Lockdown!''. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:51, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
::an issue to be discussed elsewhere. you shouldt just pile unrelated information here just because another area doesnt exist. the other watch alongs have been decided no to be placed her, and so the nonrelated stories should not be here too. [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:52, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
:::That's not your place to decide and it's not mine either. It's the place of an admin, after a lengthy debate involving the rest of the community. Until then, [[Tardis:Do not disrupt this wiki to prove a point]] applies. You started this discussion and it must be aired out. The best thing to do would be to create a Panopticon thread, and I'll go do so right now. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:59, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
::::the information should be removed until it is decided that it is allowed by an admin then... information about non-lockdown stories (which you yourself said deserves to be elsewhere) should not reside on the lockdown page - and theres already a president with the non-lockdown watches being removed. it is incredbly misleading. [[User:DiSoRiEnTeD1|DiSoRiEnTeD1]] [[User talk:DiSoRiEnTeD1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]]
:::::I've started [[Thread:273268|the Panopticon thread]]. And I would dispute the idea that it is "incredibly misleading". Again, we're calling these ''Associated releases'', not 100%-on-brand-''Lockdwon''-originals. A bunch of people have been editing this page in the last few months, including admins, not to mention the oodles more passive readers; you're the first to complain. You do ''not'' get to make a decision about this and neither do I. Go argue your point in the forums, and an admin will rule over it eventually, but in the meantme, [[Tardis:You are bound by current policy]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:06, May 17, 2020 (UTC)
 
== Fear is a Superpower Comic ==
 
The LOCKDOWN! YouTube channel also release a narrated comic strip featuring the life of Danny Pink entitled ''Fear is a Superpower''. It's not exactly a webcast, I'm assuming it still goes under the story list? [[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 18:55, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
:Sure! There are already other things than webcasts in the story list. ''[[Doctor Who and the Time War (short story)|Doctor Who and the Time War]]'', for one. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:00, May 20, 2020 (UTC)
 
==Vincent and the Doctor's Gallery==
 
Okay, we're straying into edit war territory here. Let's discuss the subject of this project that was posted on the Lockdown! youtube channel. It's a scene of [[Vincent and the Doctor (TV story)]], when Starry Night is being conceived, that leads into a series of fan art, and then the gallery scene with "pile of good things and bad things". Does this merit inclusion on this wiki and inclusion in this series? In my view, clearly not. This does not itself constitute a story, as there's a scene, a harsh cut to montage, and then a harsh cut to another scene, with thematic coherence but no narrative coherence. Even putting that aside, there's no new narrative material here, just reposting clips of an already existing episode, at best you should make a note on the episode page, and this wiki is not the place for fan art. And finally, not everything this youtube page does is noteworthy, as evidenced by other videos existing that aren't being talked about on this wiki. Let's discuss. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:22, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
::So the issue here isn't "is this part of the event". Technically anyone tweeting while watching the episode is part of the event. It's a tweetalong. It's "is this part of the event and is this something the wiki should cover". I think the reasons I've given establish it's not. Not everything this youtube video posts is worthy of being covered, and this clearly isn't supposed to be taken to be in universe, unlike your example. So, funnily enough, this Wiki actually didn't appear in The Zygon Isolation. Rather, an N-Space version of it did. Which is sort of tangential to the main point, but still defuses it nicely. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:39, May 21, 2020 (UTC)
:::: Well, [[N-Space]] is just where Doctor Who takes place. And since this is where the Osgoods exist, sort of by definition they're in N-Space. This isn't speculation. It clearly can't be our wiki, as Doctor Who is not real in our world, but there is [[Doctor Who (N-Space)]], and associated fansites. As for why this story isn't taking place in N-Space, well, it's not a story, for one. For the second, we can check the "publisher summary". "A compilation of Vincent van Gogh-inspired Doctor Who fan artwork along with inspirational quotes from the series which have helped fans through tough times." It's very clearly just supposed to be a compilation within a certain framing device using the episode, not an actual story set within N-Space.[[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:56, May 21, 2020 (UTC)

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Are the things covered in the last few archives now fine for inclusion?[[edit source]]

I am asking because the story has gotten continued, the Rule 2 exceptions and the case to be made for charity publications that had permission from the licence-holders (even though as argued they aren't technically using a commercial licence.)

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