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I like #1 the best, as it shows the cause of the titular giggle without spoiler anything not previously advertised. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC) | I like #1 the best, as it shows the cause of the titular giggle without spoiler anything not previously advertised. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:22, 10 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
It has been nearly 10 days since anyone posted anything here. As votes show, 5, 2 and 1 have the most support, with 5 narrowly ahead. Can a decision be made now, given there hasn't been anyone adding new opens or debating this since that general consensus was reached 10 days ago? [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
: I've found myself warming up to #1 more. The only two I unambiguously ''don't'' like are #2 (too vague) and #3 (too specific). [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::We can ranked choice voting our top three if everyone's okay with that? Give our top 3 picks, then our first gets 3 points, second gets 2, third gets 1, then add the points up and see the winner. Since there's already reasonably broad consensus around 3 or 4 shots being the best, this just sort of standardizes our preferences about them. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: Sounds good to me. 5>2>6 would be my preference. {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}} 20:30, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::2>5>1 for me. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:32, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::: Y'know, now that we've chosen our image for WBY, I'm no longer particularly keen on #5 because it's too similar. | |||
:::: Anyway, my top 3: | |||
:::: 1: #4 | |||
:::: 2: #6 | |||
:::: 3: #1 | |||
:::: [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:52, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::: 5, 2, then 1. Totals for tallies so far: 1 has 2 votes, 2 has 1 vote and 5 has 4 votes. 5 is the clear winner here. We don't even need to delegate points for this given 5's lead is so big (and assigning points is arbitrary anyways). [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 15:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::: Throwing in my support for #5 too. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 16:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
Please clarify your second and third picks, in spite of what Snivy said. He's not correct here, other people being happy with 2 and not liking 5 could easily change things, 5 is not yet the ''clear'' winner. (Not that I expect this to happen, but we should be careful.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I agree we do indeed have to be careful about pre-emptively ending a discussion and waiting for an admin's formal conclusion. However, I do not understand how the tally is "not correct here" at the time of writing. 5 people have now selected image #5 as their preferred option for the article's infobox image. Even if you wanted to include the whole points system with the top chosen picture getting 3 points (which, as already stated, is not all that necessary) then that means: #5 has 5 1st place votes, meaning it would have 15 points. The next closest is #1 with 2 1st place votes, meaning it has 6. Therefore, mathematically, even factoring in the other points of 2 for 2nd choice and 1 for 3rd choice, #1 remains miles behind challenging #5's lead. As such, #5 is indeed the clear favourite at this stage in the discussion, which had reached that consensus nearly 2 weeks prior, both in standard choosing and in the arbitrary points system allocation to be the article's infobox image. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 20:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::See, the problem is you're trying to do those calculations without actually having the full slates. Indeed, on the calcs that take place using the full slates, #2 is beating #1, which already should give your analysis pause. Maybe it's more complicated and we should actually have people fully express their preferences. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Precisely, hence me saying we shouldn't even use the points allocation system and simply choose the image that is objectively best for the episode based on community consensus. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 21:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::...That doesn't follow in the slightest. This is a way of formalizing consensus. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Does it not? The image that editors generally agree is the best image with justified reasoning and following policy is the image that becomes the infobox's image. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 21:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
More rigorous analysis contradicting your quick and dirty analysis clearly doesn't imply that we should abandon the rigorous analysis and go with the quick and dirty analysis, no. Let alone say that the latter is objective. Again, I expect #5 to win out. But it's not as clear cut as you keep saying it is. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:My analysis is "dirty"? In light of that comment, I think we are getting off topic here now. Fact stands: users are so far voting in favour of #5 as the image of choice. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 16:49, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/quick-and-dirty#English ??] [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:29, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
Has enough time past now to declare 5 the chosen image? [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 01:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
: Doing a ranked vote is a perfectly acceptable way to settle a close call like this. Only including people who indicated (at least) 3 preferenced choices, result A was obtained. Including people who only indicated a single preference (and giving this 3 points), result B was obtained. For completeness, only including people's top preference (and giving this 1 point), result C was obtained: | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | |||
!Image !! Result A !! Result B !! Result C | |||
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|1||4||7||1 | |||
|- | |||
|2||10||13||3 | |||
|- | |||
|3||1||1||0 | |||
|- | |||
|4||5||5||1 | |||
|- | |||
|5||13||16||4 | |||
|- | |||
|6||3||3||0 | |||
|} | |||
From these results, image 5 is the clear consensus and so I will add it to the infobox now. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
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