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Could we save that for another day? Can I ask if you agree regarding unregistered voting?--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 18:52, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | Could we save that for another day? Can I ask if you agree regarding unregistered voting?--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 18:52, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:I'm half and half. Half of me says yes, as hey have a right to vote as much as everyone else. the other half of me says no, as User can just log out and vote - but that cheating, and should not be counted. I'm going to say yes, in the interest of fairness to them. But if it's discovered to be the same IP address, then the vote should not count [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 18:56, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | :I'm half and half. Half of me says yes, as hey have a right to vote as much as everyone else. the other half of me says no, as User can just log out and vote - but that cheating, and should not be counted. I'm going to say yes, in the interest of fairness to them. But if it's discovered to be the same IP address, then the vote should not count [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 18:56, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Again, I know I am biased, but there is no way to tell. The user who has voted has this as their only contribution which makes me suspicious.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:51, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I never checked, but if you do have your suspicions, should we defunct the vote? [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 20:16, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Yes. Thank you for being so agreeable.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:24, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
::For what it's worth, Skittles is, in my view, more correct. Saying "century" twice is slightly redundant. But "20th ''and'' 21st centuries", which I tend to prefer over using dashes, is also correct, as would be the variant "20th & 21st centuries". | |||
::The real question is: who's going to implement and enforce this? Unless one of the two of you is prepared to go through ''every'' page and bend them to your will, stop arguing about it. Just to make things clear, I will ''not'' make the bot available for such a change, so . . . hand editing it will mean. And hand policing. Which of you is up for that? | |||
::Since I believe the ''real'' answer to that question is "neither of you", I've proposed a compromise, below, complete with language that can be immediately placed into the MOS, if agreed. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
It would take time but I believe we could edit one way or another just by browsing through. However, your suggestion is agreeable.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:38, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Vote== | ==Vote== | ||
See above discussion for reasons why. | See above discussion for reasons why. | ||
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===Date in full i.e 20th century - 21st century=== | ===Date in full i.e 20th century - 21st century=== | ||
#--[[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]], 14 February, 2011 (UTC) | #--[[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]], 14 February, 2011 (UTC) | ||
#--[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:35, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | #--[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:35, February 14, 2011 (UTC) | ||
===Other ways=== | ===Other ways=== | ||
#--{{user:CzechOut/Sig}} If we're talking about a change to the MOS, the language I'd go for, to save everyone a ton of the most boring hand-editing imaginable, is this: | |||
:::Pursuant to [[forum:Home Era layout|forum discussion]], the preferred way to express a century date range is: "''x''th-''y''th centuries" or, if two consecutive centuries, "''x''th and ''y''th centuries". Examples include: "19th-20th centuries" or "17th and 18th centuries". | |||
:::The expression, "''x''th century - ''y''th century", is mildly redundant and discouraged, but not specifically disallowed, as some editors may find it visually more appealing in certain situations. | |||
:::The term ''xx''00s, as in [[1900s]], should not be used on this wiki as a synonym for "the years in the [[19th century]]" — except when used thus in a direct quote. Because the [[Doctor Who universe|DWU]] centers around time travel, there is a need for greater precision about years than exists in general [[English]]. To reduce confusion, this wiki uses expressions in the form of [[1700s]], [[1800s]] and the like to indicate '''decades''', not centuries — even though we acknowledge that a valid, general English definition of "1700s" is "all the years beginning with 17." |