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Is there a specific reason for using bullet points for undated event sections on individual and species pages? The only example which didn't use this I could find was [[Sea Devil]]. It seems like it really messes up uses of images. After all, "undated" isn't a synonym for unchronicled, offscreen adventures even if a few of those mentioned sections refer to "undated/unchronicled". It could easily refer to a comic story that isn't easy to place. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 11:34, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | Is there a specific reason for using bullet points for undated event sections on individual and species pages? The only example which didn't use this I could find was [[Sea Devil]]. It seems like it really messes up uses of images. After all, "undated" isn't a synonym for unchronicled, offscreen adventures even if a few of those mentioned sections refer to "undated/unchronicled". It could easily refer to a comic story that isn't easy to place. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 11:34, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ||
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: To not bullet it at all and make it paragraphs, especially for longer undated sections. A lot of DWU fiction doesn't have an obvious placement beyond "features this lineup of Doctor incarnation and companions etc.". It seems bad form to just unilaterally get rid of such a commonly used format without asking; I'm just wondering if there's a valid reason in favour of bulleting. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 12:46, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | : To not bullet it at all and make it paragraphs, especially for longer undated sections. A lot of DWU fiction doesn't have an obvious placement beyond "features this lineup of Doctor incarnation and companions etc.". It seems bad form to just unilaterally get rid of such a commonly used format without asking; I'm just wondering if there's a valid reason in favour of bulleting. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 12:46, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ||
::The paragraph format implies that the information or events are all related. Paragraphs should consist of information on a specific topic; you shouldn't veer off on an unrelated topic in the same paragraph. For the Sea Devil page, the weapons from ''[[The Sea Devils]]'' and ''[[Warriors of the Deep]]'' are both in one paragraph. This makes sense, since weapons are related to weapons. For the undated events, the events are all in one paragraph. This doesn't make sense; it would imply that the captured Sea Devils in ''[[The Forgotten]]'' and ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]'' are somehow related, which is somehow related their addition in the ''[[I-Spyder Book of Earth Creatures]]''. The undated events are only tenuously connected in that they are undated. Bullet points at least imply that the events aren't closely connected. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] <sup>[[User talk:Azes13|talk to me]]</sup> 17:48, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ::The paragraph format implies that the information or events are all related. Paragraphs should consist of information on a specific topic; you shouldn't veer off on an unrelated topic in the same paragraph. For the Sea Devil page, the weapons from ''[[The Sea Devils]]'' and ''[[Warriors of the Deep]]'' are both in one paragraph. This makes sense, since weapons are related to weapons. For the undated events, the events are all in one paragraph. This doesn't make sense; it would imply that the captured Sea Devils in ''[[The Forgotten (comic story)|The Forgotten]]'' and ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]'' are somehow related, which is somehow related their addition in the ''[[I-Spyder Book of Earth Creatures]]''. The undated events are only tenuously connected in that they are undated. Bullet points at least imply that the events aren't closely connected. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] <sup>[[User talk:Azes13|talk to me]]</sup> 17:48, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I'm a little confused. I'm not misusing the word paragraph am I? That means a bit of information, followed by a couple of line breaks or an ident, right? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 17:59, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ::I'm a little confused. I'm not misusing the word paragraph am I? That means a bit of information, followed by a couple of line breaks or an ident, right? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 17:59, July 7, 2012 (UTC) | ||
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The Doctor and Amy arrived in [[GSO Arctic Drilling Station]], where a [[nano-virus]] spread by [[Cybermat]]s had turned the crew into [[Cyberslave]]s to recover [[Cyberman#Cybermen found in the Arctic|Cybermen]] trapped beneath the ice millennia before. The Cyberslave [[Elizabeth Meadows]] threatened Amy with conversion, forcing the Doctor to awaken the Cybermen in their ship; they promptly killed the Cyberslaves. After rescuing Amy, he used the same control panel to turn the Cybermen's nano-virus against them, shutting them down and blowing up their ship. ([[GAME]]: ''[[Blood of the Cybermen]]'') | The Doctor and Amy arrived in [[GSO Arctic Drilling Station]], where a [[nano-virus]] spread by [[Cybermat]]s had turned the crew into [[Cyberslave]]s to recover [[Cyberman#Cybermen found in the Arctic|Cybermen]] trapped beneath the ice millennia before. The Cyberslave [[Elizabeth Meadows]] threatened Amy with conversion, forcing the Doctor to awaken the Cybermen in their ship; they promptly killed the Cyberslaves. After rescuing Amy, he used the same control panel to turn the Cybermen's nano-virus against them, shutting them down and blowing up their ship. ([[GAME]]: ''[[Blood of the Cybermen]]'') | ||
The Doctor and Amy visited [[Smyslov 3]] for the first time and learnt their future selves had just visited and caused a lot of damage. [[Tanik]] threatened to imprison them for their actions, but the TARDIS had already taken off before he could disable the ship. ([[ | The Doctor and Amy visited [[Smyslov 3]] for the first time and learnt their future selves had just visited and caused a lot of damage. [[Tanik]] threatened to imprison them for their actions, but the TARDIS had already taken off before he could disable the ship. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Wish You Were Here (WEB short story)|Wish You Were Here]]'') | ||
While trying to rescue the Doctor from being trapped in a space-time riptide, Amy accidentally released [[The Entity (TARDIS)|the Entity]] from its container in the TARDIS. The Entity created a lesion in time to send Amy a thousand years into the future and began feeding on her timeline. The Doctor built a [[tachyon feedback loop]] which he sent to Amy to bring her and the Entity back to the Doctor. He captured the Entity and sent it into the riptide, where it could freely gorge on the four-dimensional [[Chronomite]]s without harming them. ([[GAME]]: ''[[TARDIS (video game)|TARDIS]]'') | While trying to rescue the Doctor from being trapped in a space-time riptide, Amy accidentally released [[The Entity (TARDIS)|the Entity]] from its container in the TARDIS. The Entity created a lesion in time to send Amy a thousand years into the future and began feeding on her timeline. The Doctor built a [[tachyon feedback loop]] which he sent to Amy to bring her and the Entity back to the Doctor. He captured the Entity and sent it into the riptide, where it could freely gorge on the four-dimensional [[Chronomite]]s without harming them. ([[GAME]]: ''[[TARDIS (video game)|TARDIS]]'') | ||
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The Doctor continued to their intended vacation spot, [[Poseidon 8]]. He found it under attack by a [[Zaralok]], occupied by the [[Vashta Nerada]] and its people under a "sickness". He returned power to the undersea farming facility, treated the [[vortron radiation]] poisoning of its crew and used a triangulation device to trace the appearance of the Zaralok and the Vashta Nerada to a [[World War II]] era warship, the [[USS Eldridge|USS ''Eldridge'']]. This had brought through a dimensional vortex caused by a malfunctioning cloaking device. The Doctor and Amy deactivated the device, returning the Zaralok and Vashta Nerada to their proper timelines. ([[GAME]]: ''[[Shadows of the Vashta Nerada]]'') | The Doctor continued to their intended vacation spot, [[Poseidon 8]]. He found it under attack by a [[Zaralok]], occupied by the [[Vashta Nerada]] and its people under a "sickness". He returned power to the undersea farming facility, treated the [[vortron radiation]] poisoning of its crew and used a triangulation device to trace the appearance of the Zaralok and the Vashta Nerada to a [[World War II]] era warship, the [[USS Eldridge|USS ''Eldridge'']]. This had brought through a dimensional vortex caused by a malfunctioning cloaking device. The Doctor and Amy deactivated the device, returning the Zaralok and Vashta Nerada to their proper timelines. ([[GAME]]: ''[[Shadows of the Vashta Nerada]]'') | ||
The Eleventh Doctor attended the funeral of [[Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Gift (short story)|The Gift]]'') | The Eleventh Doctor attended the funeral of [[Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Gift (ST short story)|The Gift]]'') | ||
For his first date with River, the Doctor planned to take her to [[Calderon Beta]] to see the starriest night in all of history. However, he had to deal with future versions of her that appeared in the TARDIS and send them away before they met each other. He also met his his future self when getting rid of the third River, learning it was their last date from his future self's perspective. ([[TV]]: ''[[First Night]]/[[Last Night]]'') | For his first date with River, the Doctor planned to take her to [[Calderon Beta]] to see the starriest night in all of history. However, he had to deal with future versions of her that appeared in the TARDIS and send them away before they met each other. He also met his his future self when getting rid of the third River, learning it was their last date from his future self's perspective. ([[TV]]: ''[[First Night]]/[[Last Night]]'') |