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 :::Good catch! Yeah, the addition of cousins would be welcome. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 17:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 ::Lending my support for these variables, as I could see immediate uses for them. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 17:11, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
+:::OK, good! I think we can see our way forward to implementation, I'll see what I can d within the next few days. Possibly sooner. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
+::::Hahahahaha. Possibly sooner. Haha. Ha. I'm so sorry. Done now. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 == New fields for fictional characters ==
 Been looking at sprucing up the pages for some of the fictional characters within the DWU and wondered if some extra fields could be added to this to make it more suitable. We currently have a "made by" field which doesn't exactly sound right for fictional characters - I was thinking perhaps a "created by" field. And then perhaps fields for both "franchise" and "work of origin"? [[User:66 Seconds|66 Seconds]] [[User talk:66 Seconds|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 :This sounds reasonable. Relatedly, I'd also appreciate "type" and "used by" fields, since I've been thinking about how we could better suit [[The Doctor's TARDIS]], who has relatives but also a user. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 17:11, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
+::Sounds good to me also, same reply a above. However, @Nate, as you'll recall, a lengthy thread concluded that the TARDIS should keep an {{tlx|Infobox Object}}, even if she might technically be an individual ''as well as'' an object; I'm not necessarily in personal agreement with that ruling, but [[T:BOUND]] very much applies. The non-T:BOUND-violating way forward, here, would instead be to add relatives and "played by" variables to the Object infobox, not the reverse. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
+:::Fields for fictional characters sounds like a genuinely useful addition. I put up my hand in support. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>'''Epsilon'''</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 18:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
+::::Can see there is support for this, though it hasn't moved since 2021. If we have agreement, would it be possible for an admin to add the fields? Thanks in advance. [[User:66 Seconds|66 Seconds]] [[User talk:66 Seconds|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:43, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
+: Done. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
+== Extra "slots" for Affiliations in Infobox Individual ==
+Could we perhaps add an extra slot for affiliations in infoboxes for individuals? I've been trying to add four affiliates to the infobox on [[Davros (Unbound Universe)]] - the [[Kaled (Unbound Universe)|Kaleds]], [[Thal Empire (Unbound Universe)|Thal Empire]], and [[Dalek (Unbound Universe)|Daleks]] of the [[Unbound Universe]], as well as the [[Quatch Empire]], but I can only add up to three affiliates in the infobox, nor can I find some workaround to get all four to display without the infobox displaying it as the code. Although we could choose to swap out, say, [[Kaled (Unbound Universe)]] for [[Quatch Empire]], given that the latter's not in the infobox currently, and Davros' affiliation with the Kaleds is arguably the least significant of the four, it would still be more accurate if we could include all four affiliates in the same infobox. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:17, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
+: This appears to have been done at some point. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
+== Cite source ==
+The "first" variable currently wraps its contents in <nowiki>''[[|]]''</nowiki>. Could we also have a "first cs" variable which wraps it in <nowiki>{{cs|}}</nowiki>?
+I think this ''might'' do it, but it would need testing:
+<div class="tech"><nowiki><data source="first mention cs"><label>First mentioned in:</label><format>{{cite source|first mention::{{{first mention}}}}}</format></data></nowiki>
+<nowiki><data source="first cs"><label>First appearance:</label><format>{{cite source|first appearance::{{{first}}}}}</format></data></nowiki>
+<nowiki><data source="only cs"><label>Appearance:</label><format>{{cite source|first appearance::{{{only}}}}}</format></data></nowiki>
+</div>
+– [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 15:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+: Sure, I'll add it now. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+:: Wouldn't it be be easier to just let regular Wiki text in? That we we can include the prefix and the extra information you can add to cite source, like part numbers, editions, etc etc etc. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 15:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+::: And this should be mentioned in [[Forum:Where to use cite source]], a thread that does need wrapping up soon. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 15:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+:::: No, it would not be easier to just let regular wikitext in due to the [[T:SMW|SMW]] data collection that occurs in these fields. I can add a workaround to allow that additional information to be included. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+::::: So long as the info ''can'' be added. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 16:52, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+:::::: Nevermind, my original idea for a workaround didn't work. I'll go back to the drawing board and, if I cna't think of anything better, I do have a very inelligant solution I can use if it comes to it. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
+== Navigation ==
+I was thinking it might be quite handy to have navigation fields like in {{tlx|Infobox Story}}, for such things as Time Lord incarnations and reigning monarchs and such. So for example, one navigation field on [[Tenth Doctor]] could be "Incarnations of the Doctor", and the "previous" tab would link to [[Ninth Doctor]], and the "next" tab would link to [[Eleventh Doctor]]. With controversial information it should probably be left blank, which I suppose in some cases would rather defeat the purpose of a navigation system, but still I think it would be a useful thing to have. {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}} 16:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
+:I feel the {{tlx|doctors}} box already fulfils this purpose. As you say, controversial information would probably complicate matters. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
+:: "Next" / "previous" serves a different function to a navbox, allowing ease of movement between ordered pages, as opposed to just displaying related pages; and I think it could be a useful addition. Controversial information doesn't necessarily make this a bad idea, but it is worth considering cases where it may become complicated. For example, there may be a case where the exact ordering of monarchs is disputed in given sources, either through differing accounts of future monarchs or historical errors or intentionally alternative histories. In these cases we could just allow several "next" / "previous" navigations, the same as we do with infobox story. Problem solved? Also there's the different [[Ninth Doctor]]s for which we could, again, have multiple navigation buttons, or potentially just link to [[The Doctor's ninth incarnation]], etc. It may require some thought, but this is definitely something which ''could'' work. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)