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:::With regards to "if we cover the first novel, what really is keeping us from covering the rest": a binding ''ad hoc'' decision in this thread, that's what. A popular suggestion throughout this discussion has been to assert that all uses of DWU things in ''Dirk Gently'' media are "crossovers" rather than "spin-offs", perhaps by relying upon the (debatable, but defensible) extent to which ''Dirk Gently'' is an extension of the wider ''Hitchhikers''verse. We might thus say that we cover every Dirk Gently story that has Chronotis or St Cedd's in it, without concerning ourselves with further uses of whatever concepts debut therein. Depending on whether we look at individual stories or subseries, this might mean covering as little as four ''Dirk Gently'' stories (discounting the direct stage play and radio adaptations of the original, but I think those would be a given even if we covered "only the original" as in your hypothetical). Even a more generous reading of that proposal would still save us the trouble of covering the Barnett TV show. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | :::With regards to "if we cover the first novel, what really is keeping us from covering the rest": a binding ''ad hoc'' decision in this thread, that's what. A popular suggestion throughout this discussion has been to assert that all uses of DWU things in ''Dirk Gently'' media are "crossovers" rather than "spin-offs", perhaps by relying upon the (debatable, but defensible) extent to which ''Dirk Gently'' is an extension of the wider ''Hitchhikers''verse. We might thus say that we cover every Dirk Gently story that has Chronotis or St Cedd's in it, without concerning ourselves with further uses of whatever concepts debut therein. Depending on whether we look at individual stories or subseries, this might mean covering as little as four ''Dirk Gently'' stories (discounting the direct stage play and radio adaptations of the original, but I think those would be a given even if we covered "only the original" as in your hypothetical). Even a more generous reading of that proposal would still save us the trouble of covering the Barnett TV show. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | ||
::::Lytton was their first work, is my comment there, and it was simply something we never litigated at the time, due to circumstances. Again, my position on this sort of thing is "guilty until proven innocent", but Cutaway's subsequent work would move my needle were we to actually have an inclusion debate on Lytton ''now''. (I don't deny the ''possibility'' that Dirk Gently was licensed in the relevant manner, I just think it implausible, and the burden of proof is well and truly on the other side.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
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