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Narrative proof of the name: Doesn't it being in the credits of "Night of the Doctor" qualify as proof enough? | Narrative proof of the name: Doesn't it being in the credits of "Night of the Doctor" qualify as proof enough? | ||
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:Hang on, doesn't he say something like "Of course", when he realises he's regenerating? I assumed that to mean that he no longer needed to be a Warrior, so the Sisters of Karn's potion no longer applied.[[Special:Contributions/86.178.203.198|86.178.203.198]]<sup>[[User talk:86.178.203.198#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC) | :Hang on, doesn't he say something like "Of course", when he realises he's regenerating? I assumed that to mean that he no longer needed to be a Warrior, so the Sisters of Karn's potion no longer applied.[[Special:Contributions/86.178.203.198|86.178.203.198]]<sup>[[User talk:86.178.203.198#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:29, June 29, 2014 (UTC) | ||
::There may be some truth to what you're saying, but the potion merely forced a regeneration — the War Doctor's body wasn't unnaturally sustained beyond that, that we know of. And while he says "of course," he does ''also'' say "…wearing a bit thin…", which is also what the [[First Doctor]] said of his body when it was dying of old age and he was about to regenerate. | |||
::So I think the War Doctor was on his last anyway, but pulling through out of willpower because he knew he was needed. Thus, when he's finally allowed to ''relax'' for the first time since the beginning of the Time War by the knowledge that he managed to save Gallifrey for good, the regeneration kicks in: ''"of course, I suppose it makes sense" that this sense of fulfillment and peace I'm feeling would trigger the regeneration; after all, my body ''''has''' been "wearing a bit thin" for a while''. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:33, August 12, 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Hurt as ninth Doctor == | == Hurt as ninth Doctor == | ||
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Makes more sense to me that this incarnation would refer to himself as "The Warrior". I have no idea why people thought that "War Doctor" made sense as his title.{{Unsigned-anon|78.150.199.214}} | Makes more sense to me that this incarnation would refer to himself as "The Warrior". I have no idea why people thought that "War Doctor" made sense as his title.{{Unsigned-anon|78.150.199.214}} | ||
War Doctor is a great title. He's a doctor who helps in the war. MAny of the leading Time Lords be more concerned about godhood than the survival of life. He knows the price is high and is slef-sacrificing enough to give it up for all. {{Unsigned-anon|2a00:23c7:ae85:3a01:b136:22e:5b43:249b}} | |||
== Question == | == Question == | ||
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:* The events of ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' lead to the events of ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]''. | :* The events of ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' lead to the events of ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]''. | ||
:* [[Madam Kovarian]] and [[The Silence|her order]] try to prevent the events of ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|Time]]'' ([[Series 5 (Doctor Who)|the events of Series 5]]). | :* [[Madam Kovarian]] and [[The Silence|her order]] try to prevent the events of ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|Time]]'' ([[Series 5 (Doctor Who 2005)|the events of Series 5]]). | ||
:* [[The Doctor]] [[The Big Bang (TV story)|reboots the universe]] and creates [[Time Field|the cracks]]. | :* [[The Doctor]] [[The Big Bang (TV story)|reboots the universe]] and creates [[Time Field|the cracks]]. | ||
:* ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]''. | :* ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]''. | ||
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::: Well, Moffat certainly does seem to love all of this... timey-wimey stuff. | ::: Well, Moffat certainly does seem to love all of this... timey-wimey stuff. | ||
::: I don't think you seem to understand the out-of-sync part of the story. Remember when in [[Series 5 (Doctor Who)|Series 5]] and [[Series 6 (Doctor Who)|6]] whenever the Doctor met [[River Song]] they didn't meet in order? River was married to the Doctor but the the Doctor still wasn't? That's out of sync. The old show seemed to imply that the [[Time Lord|Time Lords]] have some sort of a syncronising machine — whenever [[The Master|the Master]] and the Doctor met, there never is a situation when the Doctor says "Hey, didn't I kill you on [[Trenzalore]]?" and the Master replied "Where the heck is that?" — they always met in order. | ::: I don't think you seem to understand the out-of-sync part of the story. Remember when in [[Series 5 (Doctor Who 2005)|Series 5]] and [[Series 6 (Doctor Who 2005)|6]] whenever the Doctor met [[River Song]] they didn't meet in order? River was married to the Doctor but the the Doctor still wasn't? That's out of sync. The old show seemed to imply that the [[Time Lord|Time Lords]] have some sort of a syncronising machine — whenever [[The Master|the Master]] and the Doctor met, there never is a situation when the Doctor says "Hey, didn't I kill you on [[Trenzalore]]?" and the Master replied "Where the heck is that?" — they always met in order. | ||
::: It's been a law in ''Doctor Who'' since the old show that whenever two or more versions of the Doctor met up, only the latest and the newest version of him has memory of the events — that's why only the [[Third Doctor]] remembers the events of ''[[The Three Doctors (TV story)|The Three Doctors]]'' and only the [[Fifth Doctor]] remembers the events of ''[[The Five Doctors (TV story)|The Five Doctors]]''. It's not because the events never occured before, it's because the Doctor is ''out of sync''. | ::: It's been a law in ''Doctor Who'' since the old show that whenever two or more versions of the Doctor met up, only the latest and the newest version of him has memory of the events — that's why only the [[Third Doctor]] remembers the events of ''[[The Three Doctors (TV story)|The Three Doctors]]'' and only the [[Fifth Doctor]] remembers the events of ''[[The Five Doctors (TV story)|The Five Doctors]]''. It's not because the events never occured before, it's because the Doctor is ''out of sync''. | ||
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== Four Doctors Dalek slave == | == Four Doctors Dalek slave == | ||
Comic books often support a character's dialogue by illustrating what they're talking about. I believe the Dalek Slave in [[FD 3]] is just this. The continuity bomb seems to only change the history of it's victim's current regeneration. If that wasn't the case then why would it matter if the Ninth Doctor was "fantastic" in every other timeline? It is also made clear that the bomb created 3 different timelines, not four. And let's not forget that the soldier doesn't even look like the War Doctor. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|TheChampionOfTime]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:51, February 15, 2016 (UTC) | Comic books often support a character's dialogue by illustrating what they're talking about. I believe the Dalek Slave in [[FD 3]] is just this. The continuity bomb seems to only change the history of it's victim's current regeneration. If that wasn't the case then why would it matter if the Ninth Doctor was "fantastic" in every other timeline? It is also made clear that the bomb created 3 different timelines, not four. And let's not forget that the soldier doesn't even look like the War Doctor. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|TheChampionOfTime]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:51, February 15, 2016 (UTC) | ||
==About John Hurt's passing== | |||
I was wondering if maybe it was worth noting in the trivia section that Hurt's death officially broke the streak of previous Doctor actors dying in chronological order? [[User:TheFatPanda|TheFatPanda]] [[User talk:TheFatPanda|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:33, March 12, 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Why the War Doctor prove a better Doctor than the 9th == | |||
On my opinion, the War Doctor prove a better Doctor than the 9th one. | |||
1. He prove smarter. He prove better with tactics. And he saw through lies, while the 9th Doctor was easy to trick as prove when he fell for Blon Slitheen and the Gelth's fibs. The War oen woulda seen through. | |||
2. The War Docotr was physically faster and stronger. He knock down a pilot with one punch, and also outran a yougner person and climb up a wall. The Ninth Docotr was helpless asnd need Rose to help get free from an Auton. | |||
3. The War Doctor wore a better outfit. The 9th one look dumb with the jumper. The war one's waistcoats were smarter. And he wore scarves which be a smart and practical protection from cold and sunburn. The war one wore gaiders which keep thigns from out of the shoe, while the 9th one stupidly wore zero thus risking thigns getting inside his boots and hurting him. | |||
4. The War Docotr prove more nobler. He chose to self-sacrifice for others, and even tried to save Davros, and object to Rassilon sacrificing whole races for goodhood. The 9th Docotr woulda abandon many as he almsot did to Jackie, and chose revenge until Rose remind him it was poisonin him. The war oen also apologise, while the 9th one was much mroe rude. | |||
5. The war oen show more reverence for humans, while the 9th one call them stupid which was hypocritical sicne he fell for the lies of enemies and chose to keep the Daleks secret from Rose thus helping the Metaltron one. | |||
6. The war one use humour to hel,p relieve stress. The 9th one need Rose, proving how low he be. | |||
7. The war one show mroe regret. The 9th one rarely did, such as how he revel on torturing the Metaltron. | |||
8. The war one owns more honour and keeps promises. The 9th oen be a liar and breaks some, such as the one on avoiding revenge. | |||
9. The war one was humbler and ready to admit when he's mess up. The 9th one was arrogant until it took Rose to show him so on Dalek. | |||
10. The war one treats women with reverance. The 9th oen seems to be a chauvinist until Rose show him otherwise. | |||
All on all, the war one prove better than the 9th one. | |||
*Hello! I too love the War Doctor, but I should note this is not the type of place for this discussion. This page is specifically about how to discuss our wiki page on the War Doctor. Feel free to visit [https://tardis.fandom.com/f| this wiki's forums] to discuss your opinions [[User:Editoronthewiki|Editoronthewiki]] [[User talk:Editoronthewiki|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Tabbed infobox == | |||
[[File:Battlegrounds-cropped.png|thumb]][[File:Daleks-YoungWarDoctor.png|thumb]]Should we add a new tab in the infobox with [[Jonathon Carley]]'s portrayal of him to the infobox, like at [[First Doctor]]? There are two images that I've found that I think could work, which can be seen either above or to the right of this text (depending on if you're on mobile or not). Thoughts? [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|📢]] 15:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
: I don't think this makes sense, since those covers distinctly use a young Hurt's likeness, ''not'' Carley's. This would be like using the cover of ''[[The Demon Song (audio story)|The Demon Song]]'' to represent [[Stephen Noonan]]. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 15:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
== My ideas for costumes == | |||
Here's ideas for costumes he can wear. | |||
1. He can wear a double-breast overcoat of tweed and a tartan scarf when on Victorian England. | |||
2. He can replace his trenchcoat with a duster coat of canvas, and also wear a moss green moleskin-waistcoat and a plum-and-tangerine paisley-scarf as well as a Panama cap during adventures on Africa, Asia, Australia, Florida, and South America as well as a prehistoric 'lost world' during Edwardian times. | |||
3. He can wear Chinese armour on Ancient China. | |||
4. He can wear knight armour on England during the Middle Ages. | |||
5. He can wear a black tricone with his usual outfit when on the seas such as the early 19th century. | |||
6. He can wear a scrim scarf, an indigo moleskin waistcoat with amber tartan symbols, a Panama cap, and a paisley-shirt when helping Silurians and Sea-Demons with a space ark involving 'extinct' life such as dinosaurs, Ice Age giants, dodos, and more. A Noah's Ark scenario with the Time War as the Flood. And facing Davros. {{Unsigned-anon|2a00:23c7:ae85:3a01:31f5:ae28:52a7:6d95}} | |||
:Hey, again, not to knock the enthusiasm, but this sort of thing is not what these pages are for - [[User:CodeAndGin|<span style="color:green" title="CodeAndGin">CodeAndGin</span>]] | [[User_talk:CodeAndGin|<span title="Talk to me">🗨</span>]] | 17:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Image of Younger War Doctor== | |||
Many files own images showing many stages in a person's life. I'd recommend the same here; one with the older one and one for the younger one. {{unsigned-anon|2a00:23c7:ae85:3a01:936:d966:46dc:b87d}} | |||
:I think one image of the War Doctor as seen in 2013 is sufficient. If we started adding extra images to show different stages/looks of the Doctor in their lifetimes, where would it end? Matt Smith's Doctor visibly ages in The Time of the Doctor, for example, so would his infobox showcase that? I think it's best to stick to 1 image for each Doctor's infobox. <font face="Maven Pro" color="#000000"><b>— [[User:Fractal|Fractal]] [[User talk:Fractal|<span title="Talk">•</span>]]</b></font> 16:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Indeed — the "different ages" picture to which you refer, as seen at [[Amy Pond]], actually showcase the different ''actors'' to have played a given part. In those cases it just so happens that the alternative actors were playing younger versions of the characters. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC) |