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Which bring us back to the quote on the page [[The Doctor]]. While being at the end of a section is not expressly prohibited, unlike quotes at the beginning of the section, graphically the result is almost identical, minus the context provided by the section heading. But a more important question is: is this quotation on its own important to the article or to the "Influence" section thereof? If the quote is reinstated, it would be the only emphasised part of the whole article. Would it be comprehensible to a non-fan reader? I removed it because I did not think it would be. This is Moffat speaking to hard-core fans. Imagine that you do not know much about the Doctor. What does "coming in" mean: helping to make the universe into a fairy tale or exploiting it not being a fairy tale? Is making the universe into a fairy tale really the main influence of the Doctor? Why does this quote focus on the First and Twelfth Doctors at the expense of all the others? Does "we" stand for only the two of them or for all incarnations? Does this quote apply to all incarnations, including [[the Emperor]] who "controlled time and space travel with a ruthless secret police force [and] crushed any rebellion before it even began"? Based on these questions I did not think the quote fit. Maybe you disagree (disagreements about which quote is best suited was one of the reasons for the current policy's prohibitions). If you think this particular quote does represent well this particular section (Influence) of this particular article (the Doctor), I do not mind it being reinstated. What the current policy asks is to subject each quote to such a scrutiny. If you still think it fits, go ahead and bring it back. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:30, May 11, 2018 (UTC) | Which bring us back to the quote on the page [[The Doctor]]. While being at the end of a section is not expressly prohibited, unlike quotes at the beginning of the section, graphically the result is almost identical, minus the context provided by the section heading. But a more important question is: is this quotation on its own important to the article or to the "Influence" section thereof? If the quote is reinstated, it would be the only emphasised part of the whole article. Would it be comprehensible to a non-fan reader? I removed it because I did not think it would be. This is Moffat speaking to hard-core fans. Imagine that you do not know much about the Doctor. What does "coming in" mean: helping to make the universe into a fairy tale or exploiting it not being a fairy tale? Is making the universe into a fairy tale really the main influence of the Doctor? Why does this quote focus on the First and Twelfth Doctors at the expense of all the others? Does "we" stand for only the two of them or for all incarnations? Does this quote apply to all incarnations, including [[the Emperor]] who "controlled time and space travel with a ruthless secret police force [and] crushed any rebellion before it even began"? Based on these questions I did not think the quote fit. Maybe you disagree (disagreements about which quote is best suited was one of the reasons for the current policy's prohibitions). If you think this particular quote does represent well this particular section (Influence) of this particular article (the Doctor), I do not mind it being reinstated. What the current policy asks is to subject each quote to such a scrutiny. If you still think it fits, go ahead and bring it back. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:30, May 11, 2018 (UTC) | ||
== Thirteen's time's a charm == | |||
Thank you for changing that. It's just what was needed: bringing the page to the shape it should be without causing a suspicion of bias. It also shows the importance of having experts on hand for all parts of DWU: I was simply not aware of the pre-release release. So thanks for stepping in and fixing it. | |||
Separate thanks for the apology. It is really very kind of you and certainly merits a reciprocation. On my part, I apologise for things I said in the heat of the moment, some of which were in fact proved wrong by you. As much as they went against some of my arguments, facts are what ultimately matters. I generally believe that no one can be blamed for honourably defending what they think is right. And I hope that a little more trust that we're all doing exactly that (rather than forcing an agenda), trust by all of us, including me, would help resolving such disputes in a more amicable fashion in the future. | |||
My own thinking certainly evolved from a year ago. Not that I changed my position completely, but I would really like for an official compromise to emerge. With that being the optimal solution, I do not want to do anything to jeopardise the hopes for it. | |||
At any rate, it is always sad to see experienced editors go (I heard recently that [[User:OttselSpy25|OttselSpy25]] stated that he had moved on from the wiki, which is a pity). I thought his latest suggestion on separating independent ''Doctor Who'' continuities was rather well thought through and could potentially help nip many of future heated inclusion debates in the bud and to untie some of convoluted knots currently present. Well, radical ideas sometimes need time to stew even when they're good. Conversely, it is always good to see balance restored and people feeling free to edit. Here's to the time when I do not have to think twice before editing CJB pages and other editors feel equally uninhibited in editing to their heart's desire. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:17, September 10, 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Twelve Angels Weeping 13? == | |||
Could you please direct me to which part of the interview this is stated in. I read it, but could not find the part you mentioned.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:28, October 18, 2018 (UTC) | |||
: Doesn't appear to say for definite if it is 13 at the end, but I'm willing to believe I'm wrong. Who knows, maybe the BBC are planning on giving her a hat down the line (haha).[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:39, October 18, 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Inconvenient dab term == | |||
Sorry about the mess with [[Hole (What Keeps Their Lines Alive)]] rather than just [[Hole]]. I realize now it probably (a) shouldn't have been dab termed, or (b) dabbed with something other than (What Keeps Their Lines Alive)! Thanks for cleaning up after me either way! – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 17:41, March 2, 2019 (UTC) | |||
: Oh, "procrastinating on ''you-know-what''" (or writing in general) is nearly my full-time job. Good pages regardless! – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 17:56, March 2, 2019 (UTC) | |||
== The Last Martian updates == | |||
Hi! I just wanted to say thank you so much for the amazing edits to my story page for ''The Last Martian''. The notes are perfect - exactly what I was hoping for, and all the references to ''The Martian Chronicles'' are spot-on. I really appreciate your time and effort, and I'm so happy that readers finally have somewhere to look for background and context on the story. | |||
Thanks again, | |||
[[User:Rachel Churcher|Rachel Churcher]] [[User talk:Rachel Churcher|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:38, March 14, 2019 (UTC) | |||
Your edit of the "Postscript" article mentions the Iris Wildthyme short story "A Lady Doctor?" - please can you elaborate as to where this short story can be found? | |||
:Thank you for your response. Much appreciated. All the best. [[User:Zzzzzaappp|Zzzzzaappp]] [[User talk:Zzzzzaappp|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:38, March 13, 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Hospitality == | |||
Hi, I was wondering what the reason was for declaring ''[[Hospitality (short story)]]'' invalid? It's not too clear on the talk page. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:16, May 27, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks!:). Sadly, I don't know much about Iris (though God knows I want to), but thanks for the clarification and the compliment! Hopefully our little universe will allow me to add more to the page in the future. [[User:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived]] [[User talk:Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:00, May 27, 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Time War Victorious == | |||
Thank you for the update! Granted, I do not think I am familiar enough with those new sources to move it at this time? Yes, it should go in the pre-War section though. Maybe I can figure it out later but if someone else wants to they can. I suppose the Doctor was just outright wrong in Defender of the Daleks though?--[[User:Editoronthewiki|Editoronthewiki]] [[User talk:Editoronthewiki|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Merry Christmas == | |||
Hello, there. I just wanted to stop by and wish you the merriest of Christmases, and a Happy New Year. I look forward to continuing our "tug-of-war" over the #19 spot on the Death Zone in 2021![[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:18, 24 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Advanced Research Project == | |||
Your edit on [[Theory:Timeline - The Relic]] (thank you, by the way!) reminds me of my suspicion that there's a very clear and obvious link between the [[Advanced Research Project]] and the [[Advanced Research Department]] that nobody's dug up yet. It would be deeply satisfying to be able to officially merge those two corners of the DWU. Is there anything you know that I don't? Because I would appreciate any nudge in the right direction! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== The great Black Eye == | |||
Sorry to leave you a talk page note so close to my last, but I noted [[Special:Diff/3074719]] and [[Special:Diff/3074720]] with some interest. Let me make a meager defense of regular old [[Black Eye]]: while it is introduced as "great" in Sabbath's journal, later uses ("black eyeball", "black eye-sun", "that terrible Black Eye") lack the modifier, and in ''The Gallifrey Chronicles'', it's great-less twice as often. (I don't know what it's called in ''History 101'', but that's really just a ''[[Guernica (painting)|Guernica]]'' reference anyhow.) Maybe [[great Black Eye]] is preferable for futureproofing, but since there's no competing capitalised Black Eyes to compete with, do we really need the three-word title? – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:13, 19 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Oh, I somehow missed your actual creation of the page! This is a '''''spectacular''''' addition to the wiki, and as I expected, the reasoning behind your naming choice holds up perfectly. Cheers! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 20:46, 19 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== The Brenda and Effie Mysteries == | |||
Hey Champion, | |||
Due to the amount of knowledge you've shown in regards to ''[[The Brenda and Effie Mysteries (series)|The Brenda and Effie Mysteries]]'' I'm assuming that you've read all of these stories (forgive me if I'm wrong). | |||
I was wondering whether you could confirm if ''[[666 Charing Cross Road (novel)|666 Charing Cross Road]]'' actually ''is'' a Brenda and Effie spin-off (as stated on the page) as right now the only connection that I can see is the mention of [[Fox Soames]] and the [[Book of Mayhem]] (which would actually make it a spin-off of ''[[To the Devil — a Diva! (novel)|To the Devil — a Diva!]]'' if anything). | |||
I've also heard rumour that ''Mrs Danby and Company'' may be a spin-off to ''666 Charing Cross Road'' (with "vampires in Central Park" being mentioned in the blurb) and that a character called Mrs Danby appeared throughout the ''Brenda and Effie'' books. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] [[User talk:RadMatter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:59, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
: I didn't actually create the ''[[Mrs Danby and Company (novel)|Mrs Danby and Company]]'' page, due to having not read said novel. However, I listed it as a spin-off on the B&E page mostly due to the fact that recurring B&E villain Mr Danby appears. From what I have researched there are appearances made by [[Servo-furnishing]], and there is an insight given into the life of [[Mumu Manchu]]. Also reference is made to the DWU with hornets in Sussex. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] [[User talk:RadMatter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:25, 31 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Blithe Pinking Shears == | |||
Hi Champion, | |||
I have recently listened to ''The Woman in a Black Beehive'' but heard no mention of the [[Blithe Pinking Shears]]. However, I saw you added to [[The Brenda and Effie Mysteries (series)]] that they made an appearance. Was this a mistake or have I overlooked something? [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] [[User talk:RadMatter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Saldaamir == | |||
It might be of interest to you that ''[[Mr Saldaamir (short story)|Mr Saldaamir]]'' has been [https://bbvproductions.co.uk/products/Faction-Paradox-Mr-Saldaamir-p363188727 released by BBV] and is now therefore valid, complete with its long description of [[Time Wars]]. Hope you're well! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 19:01, 1 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
== For(u)m Letter == | |||
Hey there, I hope your Halloween was decent. As you might know, we've not had forums for over two years at this point. A few of the regular editors have been having a discussion on this topic at [[Forum talk:Index]] and we'd like the input of other prominent editors if you have the inclination. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Seasons Greetings == | |||
Merry Christmas, User:TheChampionOfTime, and have a Happy New Year. | |||
Sincerely, | |||
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
:: I was glad to read your message, User:TheChampionOfTime, and am happy to hear it brightened your day. Truth be told, I sent those messages in part because I wanted to spread some cheer after dealing with some mental health relapses caused by a... certain editor, let's leave it at that, leaving a triggering message on my talk page. So, mission accomplished, I guess. May the New Year bring you the same joy your message gave me.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:32, 28 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Non-narrative fiction ruling == | |||
This is ''sort'' of allowed, but not the way you did it. All individual sources must have individual pages. You have to create a page for the illustration, similar to [[And Introducing... (illustration)]] or [[The Eighth Doctors (illustration)]], and cite ''that''. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 17:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Dalek graffiti == | |||
Just wanted to say thanks for making the [[Dalek graffiti (Rose)|Dalek graffiti]] page - it's blown my mind! Love discovering new stuff, all these years later. Love some deep lore too. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 02:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Revert on ''Night of the Intelligence'' (novel) == | |||
Why did you revert my edit (3793360) on [[Night of the Intelligence (novel)]]? I'm not seeing anything obviously wrong with my implementation of the <nowiki>{{cs}}</nowiki> templates, and if the concern was the link changes to [[Other Wars, Other Worlds (novel)]], that was because (as far as I'm able to find) there is no individual novel called ''Travers & Wells'', the article for ''Other Wars'' was previously renamed from that name (see its revision history), and the Continuity section items between the two pages seemed to correlate. [[User:Look-a-troopa|Look-a-troopa]] [[User talk:Look-a-troopa|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
== In case you have a physical copy of Boulevard 1 == | |||
Hey, I'm not sure if you're able to help out here, but there's some weirdness with the ebook of [[You are the Absurd Hero (short story)|You are the Absurd Hero]]. I need to compare notes with someone who has a physical copy to finish my summary (see [[Talk:You are the Absurd Hero (short story)|Talk:You are the Absurd Hero]]). Scrooge doesn't have one, so I figured I'd check if you do. No worries if not. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
== The Adolescence of Time == | |||
Hi there. I saw that you'd changed the spelling of "Wurm" to "Wyrm" on the page for ''The Adolescence of Time'' and was wondering where you got it from. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
: I got the "Wurm" spelling from ''Bernice Summerfield: The Inside Story'', but you're right that ''Secret Histories'' uses "Wyrm". I guess it's best to stick with what was used in-universe rather than a reference book. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:40, 18 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: ''The Inside Story'' covers the first ten seasons, so ''The Adolescence of Time'' is completely covered. There are two mentions of the entity and both use "Wurm". I feel like that spelling's probably come from the script, but I have no way of knowing that for sure. [[User:Jack|Jack]] [[User talk:Jack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC) |