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'''''The Sirens of Time Redux''''' was a re-edited, re-scored and re-released edition of the first story in [[Big Finish Productions|Big Finish]]'s [[Main Range|monthly range]], {{cs|The Sirens of Time (audio story)}}, written by [[Nicholas Briggs]] and featuring [[Peter Davison]] as the [[Fifth Doctor]], [[Colin Baker]] as the [[Sixth Doctor]] and [[Sylvester McCoy]] as the [[Seventh Doctor]]. It was released on [[26 November (releases)|26 November]] [[2024 (releases)|2024]].<ref name=":7">{{cite web|title=Revisit The Sirens of Time today|url=https://bigfinish.com/news/v/revisit-the-sirens-of-time-today|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=26 November 2024|website name=[https://bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024|quote=The very first Big Finish Doctor Who audio story – starring Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy – gets a special edition re-release, available now.}}</ref><ref name=":8">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/news|title=News, Recent Releases sidebar|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241126211428/https://bigfinish.com/news|archivedate=26 November 2024|quote=Doctor Who: The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL). Updated 26 November 2024. Released today!}}</ref><ref name=":9">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1861341653119774807|title=🚨 OUT NOW 🚨 The original you might say... but reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=26 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twtter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/bigfinishprod/p/DCwqu7juBeq|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=24 November 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/bigfinishprod @bigfinishprod] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|accessdate=27 November 2024|title=Ahead of the Redux this week, a cheeky look back at the OG Sirens of Time!}}</ref><ref name=":10">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1860662150597063121|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|title=SOT: Redux drops this week! Here's what the website looked like around the time.|date of source=24 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":11">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1860647049869316326|title=TUESDAY: The first #DoctorWho Big Finish audio, like you've never heard it before! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=24 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":12">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1858933259473735803|title=This day next week: Get Reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=19 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1853104853683409301|title=This month: It's Redux O'clock baby! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|date of source=3 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]}}</ref> | '''''The Sirens of Time Redux''''', also known as '''''The Sirens of Time - Redux''''', was a re-edited, re-scored and re-released edition of the first story in [[Big Finish Productions|Big Finish]]'s [[Main Range|monthly range]], {{cs|The Sirens of Time (audio story)}}, written by [[Nicholas Briggs]] and featuring [[Peter Davison]] as the [[Fifth Doctor]], [[Colin Baker]] as the [[Sixth Doctor]] and [[Sylvester McCoy]] as the [[Seventh Doctor]]. It was released on [[26 November (releases)|26 November]] [[2024 (releases)|2024]].<ref name=":7">{{cite web|title=Revisit The Sirens of Time today|url=https://bigfinish.com/news/v/revisit-the-sirens-of-time-today|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=26 November 2024|website name=[https://bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024|quote=The very first Big Finish Doctor Who audio story – starring Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy – gets a special edition re-release, available now.}}</ref><ref name=":8">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/news|title=News, Recent Releases sidebar|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241126211428/https://bigfinish.com/news|archivedate=26 November 2024|quote=Doctor Who: The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL). Updated 26 November 2024. Released today!}}</ref><ref name=":21">{{Cite web|url=https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social/post/3lbtr5srru52e|title=🚨 OUT NOW 🚨 The original you might say... but reduxed! bgfn.sh/SirensRedux|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=26 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social @bigfinish.bsky.social]) on [https://bsky.app Bluesky]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":9">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1861341653119774807|title=🚨 OUT NOW 🚨 The original you might say... but reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=26 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twtter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":22">{{Cite web|url=https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social/post/3lbryp6ono52s|title=Tomorrow: It's Sirens time! If you haven't already pre-ordered: bgfn.sh/sirensredux|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=25 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social @bigfinish.bsky.social]) on [https://bsky.app Bluesky]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":23">{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1861032090977878442|title=Tomorrow: It's Sirens time! If you haven't already pre-ordered: http://bgfn.sh/siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=25 November 2024|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/bigfinishprod/p/DCwqu7juBeq|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=24 November 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/bigfinishprod @bigfinishprod] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|accessdate=27 November 2024|title=Ahead of the Redux this week, a cheeky look back at the OG Sirens of Time!}}</ref><ref name=":10">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1860662150597063121|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|title=SOT: Redux drops this week! Here's what the website looked like around the time.|date of source=24 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":11">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1860647049869316326|title=TUESDAY: The first #DoctorWho Big Finish audio, like you've never heard it before! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=24 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":12">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1858933259473735803|title=This day next week: Get Reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=19 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1853104853683409301|title=This month: It's Redux O'clock baby! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|date of source=3 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]}}</ref> | ||
It was released in celebration of the [[List of anniversaries|25th anniversary]] of Big Finish making ''[[Doctor Who]]'' audio dramas.<ref name=":0">{{cite web|title=The Sirens of Time revisited|url=https://bigfinish.com/news/v/the-sirens-of-time-revisited|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=8 June 2024|website name=[https://bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1800086774464561523|title=🚨 In case you missed it: We're celebrating 25 years of Doctor Who at Big Finish with a new director's cut of the very first release!|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=10 June 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> | It was released in celebration of the [[List of anniversaries|25th anniversary]] of Big Finish making ''[[Doctor Who]]'' audio dramas.<ref name=":0">{{cite web|title=The Sirens of Time revisited|url=https://bigfinish.com/news/v/the-sirens-of-time-revisited|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=8 June 2024|website name=[https://bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1800086774464561523|title=🚨 In case you missed it: We're celebrating 25 years of Doctor Who at Big Finish with a new director's cut of the very first release!|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=10 June 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
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== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
* This release is a "{{w|redux (literary term)|redux}}" of {{cs|The Sirens of Time (audio story)}}, the very first [[Big Finish Productions|Big Finish]] audio for ''[[Doctor Who]]''. | * This release is a "{{w|redux (literary term)|redux}}" of {{cs|The Sirens of Time (audio story)}}, the very first [[Big Finish Productions|Big Finish]] audio for ''[[Doctor Who]]''. | ||
* | * This release was originally announced as ''The Sirens of Time – Redux''<ref name=":0" />, the title was finalised as ''The Sirens of Time Redux''.<ref name=":7" /> | ||
* This story was originally recorded on [[6 March (production)|6]] and [[7 March (production)|7 March]] [[1999 (production)|1999]] at [[Crosstown Studios]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-619|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-bronze-edition-dl-3118|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":2">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":3">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-gold-edition-cd-dl-cassette-3120|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":4">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{cite web|title=THE SIRENS OF TIME|url=http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20000305044754/http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm|archivedate=5 March 2000|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=[http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1]|author=[[Big Finish Productions|BIG FINISH PRODUCTIONS: Official Licensed Dr. Who Audio Adventures]]}}</ref> | * This story was originally recorded on [[6 March (production)|6]] and [[7 March (production)|7 March]] [[1999 (production)|1999]] at [[Crosstown Studios]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-619|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]}}</ref><ref name=":1">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-bronze-edition-dl-3118|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":2">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":3">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-gold-edition-cd-dl-cassette-3120|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":4">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{cite web|title=THE SIRENS OF TIME|url=http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20000305044754/http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm|archivedate=5 March 2000|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=[http://www.doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1.htm doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1]|author=[[Big Finish Productions|BIG FINISH PRODUCTIONS: Official Licensed Dr. Who Audio Adventures]]}}</ref> | ||
* The news article announcing the Redux states that ''The Sirens of Time'' "featured the [[Fifth Doctor|Fifth]], [[Sixth Doctor|Sixth]] and [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh Doctors]] teaming up [[Knights of Velyshaa|against a deadly]] [[Sirens of Time|threat to]] [[Gallifrey]], with [[Peter Davison]], [[Colin Baker]], and [[Sylvester McCoy]] reprising their roles on audio drama for the first time."<ref name=":0" /> However, | * The news article announcing the Redux states that ''The Sirens of Time'' "featured the [[Fifth Doctor|Fifth]], [[Sixth Doctor|Sixth]] and [[Seventh Doctor|Seventh Doctors]] teaming up [[Knights of Velyshaa|against a deadly]] [[Sirens of Time|threat to]] [[Gallifrey]], with [[Peter Davison]], [[Colin Baker]], and [[Sylvester McCoy]] reprising their roles on audio drama for the first time."<ref name=":0" /> However, Colin Baker had already performed as the Sixth Doctor on audio in the radio drama {{Cs|Slipback (audio story)}} in [[1985 (releases)|1985]]'','' and did so again later in the audiobook readings of {{Cs|Moon Graffiti (short story)}} and {{Cs|Vigil (audio story)}} for the audio anthology {{Cs|Out of the Darkness (audio anthology)}} in [[1998 (releases)|1998]], with the former two of the three stories alongside [[Nicola Bryant]] as [[Peri Brown|Peri]]. | ||
* Several references to the ''[[Audio Visuals (fan work)|Audio Visuals]]'' audio dramas are made during this story, including; | * Several references to the ''[[Audio Visuals (fan work)|Audio Visuals]]'' audio dramas are made during this story, including; | ||
** The appearance of [[Drudger]]s, originally robotic servants of Conglomerate who appeared in ''Conglomerate'', ''The Destructor Contract'' and ''Subterfuge''. | ** The appearance of [[Drudger]]s, originally robotic servants of Conglomerate who appeared in ''Conglomerate'', ''The Destructor Contract'' and ''Subterfuge''. | ||
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* For the [[Fifth Doctor]], this story is set between {{cs|The Five Doctors (TV story)}} and {{cs|Warriors of the Deep (TV story)}}; for the [[Sixth Doctor]], between ''[[Season 23 (Doctor Who 1963)|The Trial of a Time Lord]]'' and {{cs|Time and the Rani (TV story)}}; and for the [[Seventh Doctor]] "immediately prior" to<ref name=":5" /><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1814252654756778430|title=Here's a snippet of what the website looked like 25 years ago, when #DoctorWho: Sirens of Time was released!|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=19 July 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":10" /> or simply "before"<ref name=":1" /><ref name=":2" /><ref name=":3" /><ref name=":4" /> the {{cs|Doctor Who (TV story)|1996 TV Movie}}. | * For the [[Fifth Doctor]], this story is set between {{cs|The Five Doctors (TV story)}} and {{cs|Warriors of the Deep (TV story)}}; for the [[Sixth Doctor]], between ''[[Season 23 (Doctor Who 1963)|The Trial of a Time Lord]]'' and {{cs|Time and the Rani (TV story)}}; and for the [[Seventh Doctor]] "immediately prior" to<ref name=":5" /><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1814252654756778430|title=Here's a snippet of what the website looked like 25 years ago, when #DoctorWho: Sirens of Time was released!|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=19 July 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":10" /> or simply "before"<ref name=":1" /><ref name=":2" /><ref name=":3" /><ref name=":4" /> the {{cs|Doctor Who (TV story)|1996 TV Movie}}. | ||
* The Fifth Doctor is travelling with [[Tegan Jovanka]] and [[Vislor Turlough]], who remain in his TARDIS throughout the story. | * The Fifth Doctor is travelling with [[Tegan Jovanka]] and [[Vislor Turlough]], who remain in his TARDIS throughout the story. | ||
* According to [[PROSE]]: ''[[Instruments of Darkness (novel)|Instruments of Darkness]]'', [[Evelyn Smythe]] was in the TARDIS while the Sixth Doctor was at the Kurgon Wonder. | * According to [[PROSE]]: ''[[Instruments of Darkness (novel)|Instruments of Darkness]]'', [[Evelyn Smythe]] was in the TARDIS while the Sixth Doctor was at the [[Kurgon Wonder]]. | ||
=== Original production === | === Original production === | ||
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==== Details from Redux behind the scenes extras ==== | |||
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* | * According to Peter Davison, when asked if he remembered ''The Sirens of Time'' by Nicholas Briggs, "it wasn't in one's head... you can only know this in hindsight, that we [himself, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy] didn't think it was a beginning". Indeed, later in the extras, Briggs states that they would've simply been approached for ''The Sirens of Time'' only, with no mention of any future Big Finish productions at the time.<ref name=":24" /> | ||
* | * Colin Baker recollected that he was approached by Nicholas Briggs and [[Gary Russell]] to do ''The Sirens of Time''. However, Gary Russell stated, "So the first thing I did, was, I went to Colin, and said, 'We're doing this - will you be part of it?", with no mention of Briggs approaching Colin also. He continued, saying he then asked Sylvester McCoy and Peter Davison the same question, in that order. When asking Davison, he added that Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy had already agreed, and said that Davison went, "'Well, I suppose I can't say 'no' then.'".<ref name=":24" /> | ||
** This same order of Gary Russell approaching Colin Baker, then Sylvester McCoy, and then Peter Davison, would be recollected by Davison in an interview for [[TV Choice]] by [[Graham Kibble-White]].<ref name=":25">{{Cite web|title=The BIG interview: Doctor Who’s Peter Davison|url=https://www.tvchoicemagazine.co.uk/tv/doctor-who/the-big-interview-peter-davison/|author=[[Graham Kibble-White]]|date of source=9 July 2024|accessdate=28 November 2024|website name=[https://www.tvchoicemagazine.co.uk tvchoicemagazine.co.uk]|publisher=TV Choice}}</ref> | |||
* Peter Davison remembered that ''The Sirens of Time'' was "hitherto... the [[Children in Need]] [[Dimensions in Time (TV story)|special that we did with]] ''[[EastEnders (series)|EastEnders]]'', that made no sense at all", before saying, "Sirens of Time ''also'' made no sense at all... I think I've got a reasonable grip - grasp of most ''Doctor Who'' stories... ''Most''... And I had no idea what was going on. So you can imagine that if ''I'' had no idea what was going on, Colin or Sylvester had ''absolutely'' no clue. I mean, they were completely in the dark. Sylvester, I think he just said, 'Oh, I'm gonna, just roll my R's a bit. I think that's what I'll do.' ...But we had a ''fun'' time! It was a great time!"<ref name=":24" /> | |||
** He later elaborated, "We enjoyed it a ''lot'', but, just, none of us knew what it was about... I'm not even sure that whoever directed it - I can't remember who ''did'' direct it now - knew either".<ref name=":24" /> The director and writer of ''The Sirens of Time'' was Nicholas Briggs. | |||
* At some point, Sylvester McCoy lost his script during recording.{{Note|Sylvester McCoy is shown to have a script in photographs of the recording of ''The Sirens of Time''. The first behind the scenes segment that is of the original recording session has Colin Baker saying, "Sylv hasn't got a script". Presumably, McCoy lost it.}} Colin Baker gave his script to McCoy and shared with Peter Davison's script.<ref name=":24" /> | |||
* Some answers of Peter Davison in the extras are also stated or similar to other statements given in his interview for TV Choice by Graham Kibble-White about his work on the original ''The Sirens of Time'' and his Big Finish ''Doctor Who'' work overall.<ref name=":25" /> Specifically: those about his, Colin Baker's, and Sylvester McCoy's understanding of the story of ''The Sirens of Time''; his thoughts to performing in Big Finish's ''Doctor Who'' audios and his re-association with ''Doctor Who'' in that respect; how he decided he would do his performance as the Fifth Doctor on audio; and his concern on photographs being taken during recordings that the audience will see, as he wants them to imagine the characters as how they looked onscreen, not as how the actors who played the characters look now.<ref name=":25" /><ref name=":24" /> | |||
=== Redux production and release === | === Redux production and release === | ||
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* [[Toby Hrycek-Robinson]] helped Briggs "rescue the original source material off ancient digital audio tapes," by "skilfully extract[ing] the material".<ref name=":0" /> | * [[Toby Hrycek-Robinson]] helped Briggs "rescue the original source material off ancient digital audio tapes," by "skilfully extract[ing] the material".<ref name=":0" /> | ||
* All Editions include the original ''The Sirens of Time'' on download,<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":15">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1852350240872886762|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=1 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=Illustrated is the platinum edition of Sirens Redux. All editions come with both versions of the story (as downloads)}}</ref> but only the Silver, Gold, and Platinum Editions include bonus tracks.<ref name=":0" /> | * All Editions include the original ''The Sirens of Time'' on download,<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":15">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1852350240872886762|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=1 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=Illustrated is the platinum edition of Sirens Redux. All editions come with both versions of the story (as downloads)}}</ref> but only the Silver, Gold, and Platinum Editions include bonus tracks.<ref name=":0" /> | ||
** The bonus tracks are comprised of newly-conducted audio interviews by Nicholas Briggs with Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, [[Sarah Mowat]], [[Jason Haigh-Ellery]], and | ** The bonus tracks are comprised of newly-conducted audio interviews by Nicholas Briggs with Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, [[Sarah Mowat]], [[Jason Haigh-Ellery]], and Gary Russell, intercut with segments from the original production of ''The Sirens of Time'' - one of which includes a brief anecdote from [[Maggie Stables]]<ref name=":24">Behind the scenes extras.</ref> - and a music suite which consists of incidental music tracks, also from the original production.<ref name=":14" /> The suite begins with a version of the ''Doctor Who'' theme from this production that Nicholas Briggs comments was "perhaps, best-forgotten".<ref name=":14" /> The theme utilises and remixes elements from [[Delia Derbyshire|Delia Derbyshire's]] [[Doctor Who theme#Origins|arrangements]]. | ||
** With Sarah Mowat's participation in the extras, this marks her latest and last contribution to a Big Finish ''Doctor Who'' production since playing [[Gajeeda]] in {{Cs|Dark Eyes 3 (audio anthology)}}: {{Cs|The Reviled (audio story)}} in [[2014 (releases)|2014]] . Her last contribution for any Big Finish production was ''The Prisoner'': ''Volume Three'' in [[2019 (releases)|2019]]''.'' | |||
** The music track 'Call to Adventure' by Kevin MacLeod<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1300022&Search=Search|title=Call to Adventure|author=Kevin MacLeod|accessdate=28 November 2024|website name=[https://incompetech.com incomptech.com]}}</ref> is used at six minutes, thirty-three seconds into the behind the scenes extras.<ref name=":24" />{{Note|Though the track name is not given nor Kevin MacLeod credited, it is clearly identifiable.}} | |||
* The Silver Edition was limited to 1000 copies and included the Redux on CD and download;<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":16">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> the Gold Edition was limited to 150 copies and also included the Redux on CD and download, with a Limited Edition Cassette tape;<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":17">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-gold-edition-cd-dl-cassette-3120|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> and the Platinum Edition was limited to 100 copies, with the Redux on CD, download, the Cassette tape, and photo prints of the original ''The Sirens of Time'' production.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":18">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> | * The Silver Edition was limited to 1000 copies and included the Redux on CD and download;<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":16">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> the Gold Edition was limited to 150 copies and also included the Redux on CD and download, with a Limited Edition Cassette tape;<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":17">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-gold-edition-cd-dl-cassette-3120|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> and the Platinum Edition was limited to 100 copies, with the Redux on CD, download, the Cassette tape, and photo prints of the original ''The Sirens of Time'' production.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":18">{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='About' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
** These editions were restricted to one per customer, with duplicate orders cancelled and refunded.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":16" /><ref name=":17" /><ref name=":18" /> The Bronze Edition is considered as "Unlimited" in the news article announcement of the Redux.<ref name=":0" /> | ** These editions were restricted to one per customer, with duplicate orders cancelled and refunded.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":16" /><ref name=":17" /><ref name=":18" /> The Bronze Edition is considered as "Unlimited" in the news article announcement of the Redux.<ref name=":0" /> | ||
* The cover was revealed on [[1 July (releases)|1 July]] 2024.<ref name=":19">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1807806562670379050|title=🚨 COVER REVEAL 🚨 The web of time is threatened - and someone wants the Doctor dead... the remix! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=1 July 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> [[Tom Webster]] posted the clean artwork to [https://twitter.com/tomwebsta his] [[Twitter]] the same day.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tomwebsta/status/1807835922546762141|title=Clean cover for #DoctorWho Sirens of Time Redux from @bigfinish I used to listen to this one on tape back in the day!|website name=Tom Webster ([https://twitter.com/tomwebsta @tomwebsta]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=1 July 2024|author=[[Tom Webster]]}}</ref> The costumes and bodies for the Doctors were provided by cosplayers Webster had asked to help with the cover.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/lornemacd/status/1807872385556623829|title=That McCoy look! This is great work!|author=Lorne MacDougall|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=Lorne MacDougall ([https://twitter.com/lornemacd @lornemacd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tomwebsta/status/1808076625260539906|title=Thanks to amazing cozplayers, I'll post about them later <3|author=[[Tom Webster]]|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=Tom Webster ([https://twitter.com/tomwebsta @tomwebsta]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> Those of the Fifth and Sixth Doctor were provided by EspadonPatissier,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/espadonpatissier/p/C87QA7wo52E|author=EspadonPatissier|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/espadonpatissier @espadonpatissier] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|accessdate=27 November 2024|title=I’ve been a fan of @bigfinishprod for around a decade now, so when @tom.websta contacted me to act as some kind of « body double » for the Fifth and Sixth Doctor I didn’t think twice about it! I didn’t know it would be for something as special as The Sirens of Time Redux when he first reached out to me. I’m over the moon this happened, it still feels a bit surreal.}}</ref> while the Seventh Doctor's was provided by Daniel Pederson.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/_bizarrenerd_/p/C87WgZZMvDP|title=Cats out the bag now! Following from @espadonpatissier recent post, a wonderful artist from Big Finish known as @tom.websta asking for me to stand in for the Seventh Doctor for his new artwork used for Sirens of Time Redux. I jumped at the chance to do so and the artwork turned out so well!|accessdate=26 November 2024|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/_bizarrenerd_ @_bizarrenerd_] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|author=Daniel Pederson}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd/status/1808602985179852826|title=I definitely enjoyed helping out with the artwork on this one! Mr Webster did an outstanding job on this and I was honoured to be a part of it|author=Daniel Pederson|date of source=3 July 2024|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=Daniel Pederson ([https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd @BizarreNerd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]}}</ref> | * The cover was revealed on [[1 July (releases)|1 July]] 2024.<ref name=":19">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1807806562670379050|title=🚨 COVER REVEAL 🚨 The web of time is threatened - and someone wants the Doctor dead... the remix! http://bgfn.sh/Siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=1 July 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> [[Tom Webster]] posted the clean artwork to [https://twitter.com/tomwebsta his] [[Twitter]] the same day.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tomwebsta/status/1807835922546762141|title=Clean cover for #DoctorWho Sirens of Time Redux from @bigfinish I used to listen to this one on tape back in the day!|website name=Tom Webster ([https://twitter.com/tomwebsta @tomwebsta]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=1 July 2024|author=[[Tom Webster]]}}</ref> The costumes and bodies for the Doctors were provided by cosplayers Webster had asked to help with the cover.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/lornemacd/status/1807872385556623829|title=That McCoy look! This is great work!|author=Lorne MacDougall|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=Lorne MacDougall ([https://twitter.com/lornemacd @lornemacd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tomwebsta/status/1808076625260539906|title=Thanks to amazing cozplayers, I'll post about them later <3|author=[[Tom Webster]]|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=Tom Webster ([https://twitter.com/tomwebsta @tomwebsta]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=26 November 2024}}</ref> Those of the Fifth and Sixth Doctor were provided by EspadonPatissier,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/espadonpatissier/p/C87QA7wo52E|author=EspadonPatissier|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/espadonpatissier @espadonpatissier] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|accessdate=27 November 2024|title=I’ve been a fan of @bigfinishprod for around a decade now, so when @tom.websta contacted me to act as some kind of « body double » for the Fifth and Sixth Doctor I didn’t think twice about it! I didn’t know it would be for something as special as The Sirens of Time Redux when he first reached out to me. I’m over the moon this happened, it still feels a bit surreal.}}</ref> while the Seventh Doctor's was provided by Daniel Pederson.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.instagram.com/_bizarrenerd_/p/C87WgZZMvDP|title=Cats out the bag now! Following from @espadonpatissier recent post, a wonderful artist from Big Finish known as @tom.websta asking for me to stand in for the Seventh Doctor for his new artwork used for Sirens of Time Redux. I jumped at the chance to do so and the artwork turned out so well!|accessdate=26 November 2024|date of source=2 July 2024|website name=[https://www.instagram.com/_bizarrenerd_ @_bizarrenerd_] on [https://www.instagram.com Instagram]|author=Daniel Pederson}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd/status/1808602985179852826|title=I definitely enjoyed helping out with the artwork on this one! Mr Webster did an outstanding job on this and I was honoured to be a part of it|author=Daniel Pederson|date of source=3 July 2024|accessdate=26 November 2024|website name=Daniel Pederson ([https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd @BizarreNerd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]}}</ref> | ||
** With Webster's contribution of this cover, this marks his latest and last cover for Big Finish. Before this, his last covers were those for ''[[The Ninth Doctor Adventures]]: | ** With Webster's contribution of this cover, this marks his latest and last cover for Big Finish. Before this, his last covers were those for ''[[The Ninth Doctor Adventures]]:'' {{Cs|Old Friends (audio anthology)}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tomwebsta/status/1494066329762119683|title=First & last #DoctorWho for Big Finish 🥰|author=[[Tom Webster]]|date of source=16 February 2022|website name=Tom Webster ([https://twitter.com/tomwebsta @tomwebsta]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
** [[Rafe Wallbank]] would later credit Daniel Pederson for the costume and body of the Seventh Doctor on his cover for {{cs|The Doctor and Carnacki (audio anthology)}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/rafeski_/status/1839337660823060741|title=WHAT IF Sylvester McCoy was in a big lake? Here’s my cover for the upcoming @bigfinish 7DA boxset, coming this November! #DoctorWho 💀 Many thanks to @ShayProd for the skeleton renders and @BizarreNerd for the TVM 7 body, couldn’t have done it without them! ❤️|author=[[Rafe Wallbank]]|date of source=26 September 2024|website name=Rafe Wallbank 🌌 ([https://twitter.com/rafeski_ @rafeski_]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd/status/1839334079092982040|title=Amazing artwork by @rafeski_ here! It was an absolute pleasure to help you out with Seven’s costume!|author=Daniel Pederson|date of source=26 September 2024|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Daniel Pederson ([https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd @BizarreNerd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]}}</ref> | ** [[Rafe Wallbank]] would later credit Daniel Pederson for the costume and body of the Seventh Doctor on his cover for {{cs|The Doctor and Carnacki (audio anthology)}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/rafeski_/status/1839337660823060741|title=WHAT IF Sylvester McCoy was in a big lake? Here’s my cover for the upcoming @bigfinish 7DA boxset, coming this November! #DoctorWho 💀 Many thanks to @ShayProd for the skeleton renders and @BizarreNerd for the TVM 7 body, couldn’t have done it without them! ❤️|author=[[Rafe Wallbank]]|date of source=26 September 2024|website name=Rafe Wallbank 🌌 ([https://twitter.com/rafeski_ @rafeski_]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd/status/1839334079092982040|title=Amazing artwork by @rafeski_ here! It was an absolute pleasure to help you out with Seven’s costume!|author=Daniel Pederson|date of source=26 September 2024|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Daniel Pederson ([https://twitter.com/BizarreNerd @BizarreNerd]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]}}</ref> | ||
* The webpages for the Redux Editions on the Big Finish website originally used the image of the recording tapes that | * The webpages for the Redux Editions on the Big Finish website originally used the image of the recording tapes that were featured in the announcement article.<ref>{{cite web|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20240608144853/https://www.bigfinish.com/search_results?search_value_selected=0&search_term=Sirens+of+Time+Redux|archivedate=8 June 2024|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/search_results?search_value_selected=0&search_term=Sirens+of+Time+Redux|title=Search Results - ‘''Sirens of Time Redux''’|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20240610105749/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-silver-edition-cd-dl-3121|archivedate=10 June 2024|title=The official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL)'' page|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title=The official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20240608145028/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=8 June 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> Following the cover reveal on 1 July 2024,<ref name=":19" /> the images were changed to said cover the same day.<ref>{{cite web|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20240701210909/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-bronze-edition-dl-3118|archivedate=1 July 2024|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-bronze-edition-dl-3118|title=The official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20240719121331/https://www.bigfinish.com/search_results?search_value_selected=0&search_term=Sirens+of+Time+Redux|archivedate=19 July 2024|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/search_results?search_value_selected=0&search_term=Sirens+of+Time+Redux|title=Search Results - ‘''Sirens of Time Redux''’|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
* By [[3 July (releases)|3 July | * By [[3 July (releases)|3 July]] 2024, the Gold and Platinum Editions were sold out, with [https://twitter.com/bigfinish the Big Finish Twitter account] labelling the Silver Edition as "very limited!"<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1808425515990053107|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=3 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=Platinum ❌ SOLD OUT ❌ Gold ❌ SOLD OUT ❌ Silver ❗VERY LIMITED❗ http://bgfn.sh/SilverS}}</ref> By [[5 July (releases)|5 July]] 2024, the account said they were "about to sell-out [by the way]",<ref name=":20">{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1809257017581650039|date of source=5 July 2024|title=🚨 FIRST LISTEN 🚨 The first #DoctorWho Big Finish audio, like you've never heard it before! http://bgfn.sh/Sirens Physical copies are about to sell-out btw: http://bgfn.sh/Silver|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> followed by the account posting on [[8 July (releases)|8 July]] that for those who wanted a CD copy of the Redux to "Be quick!", as the image that was included with the post stated CD copies were 90% sold out.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1810414812717039893|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024|date of source=8 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=⌛ Anyone hoping to grab the limited edition CD of #DoctorWho: The Sirens of Time Redux? Be quick! http://bgfn.sh/SilverS}}</ref> On [[9 July (releases)|9 July]], they stated the amount was "down to double-digits".<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1810637552941994461|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=9 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=CD copies of #DoctorWho: Sirens of Time are now down to double digits of availability ⏳ http://bgfn.sh/SilverS}}</ref> | ||
** On [[10 July (releases)|10 July]] 2024, ''The Sirens of Time Redux'' was declared out of print.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1811009198223766005|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=10 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=The Sirens of Time Redux is officially OUT OF PRINT http://BGFN.SH/Siren}}</ref> | ** On [[10 July (releases)|10 July]] 2024, ''The Sirens of Time Redux'' was declared out of print.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1811009198223766005|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=10 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=The Sirens of Time Redux is officially OUT OF PRINT http://BGFN.SH/Siren}}</ref> | ||
* The trailer for the Redux was released on 5 July 2024.<ref name=":20" /> | * The trailer for the Redux was released on 5 July 2024.<ref name=":20" /> | ||
* Sometime between [[5 October (releases)|5 October]] 2024<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241005235216/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=5 October 2024}}</ref> and [[6 November (releases)|6 November]] 2024, the Big Finish page for the Platinum Edition was updated to include two packshot images in the Backstage tab.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241106004124/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=6 November 2024}}</ref> | * Sometime between [[5 October (releases)|5 October]] 2024<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241005235216/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=5 October 2024}}</ref> and [[6 November (releases)|6 November]] 2024, the Big Finish page for the Platinum Edition was updated to include two packshot images in the Backstage tab.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241106004124/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=6 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
** Sometime between [[25 November (releases)|25 November]]<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241125043121/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=25 November 2024}}</ref> and [[27 November (releases)|27 November]] 2024, photos of Peter Davison, Colin Baker at the original recording of ''The Sirens of Time'', Jason Haigh-Ellery and Gary Russell being interviewed, and Nicholas Briggs at the original CD release of ''The Sirens of Time'', all taken in 1999, were added to the Backstage tab.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241127083518/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=27 November 2024}}</ref> | ** Sometime between [[25 November (releases)|25 November]]<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241125043121/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=25 November 2024}}</ref> and [[27 November (releases)|27 November]] 2024, photos of Peter Davison, Colin Baker at the original recording of ''The Sirens of Time'', Jason Haigh-Ellery and Gary Russell being interviewed, and Nicholas Briggs at the original CD release of ''The Sirens of Time'', all taken in 1999, were added to the Backstage tab.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|title='Backstage' tab of the official ''The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints)'' page|author=[[Big Finish Productions|Audiobooks from Big Finish]]|website name=[https://www.bigfinish.com bigfinish.com]|accessdate=27 November 2024|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20241127083518/https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-sirens-of-time-redux-platinum-edition-cd-dl-cassette-prints-3119|archivedate=27 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
* On [[1 November (releases)|1 November]] 2024, the Big Finish Twitter account posted the second packshot image of the Platinum Edition.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1852338787260432792|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=1 November 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=If you pre-ordered a #DoctorWho: The Sirens of Time Redux special edition, something like this will be on its way to you very soon!}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/AndrewOnSeeAIR/status/1852339431602094513|title=Whoa! Does the Redux CD set also come with the original version of The Sirens of Time?|author=Andrew Hsieh|date of source=1 November 2024|website name=Andrew Hsieh 🔶🇺🇦 ([https://twitter.com/AndrewOnSeeAIR @AndrewOnSeeAIR]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":15" /> | * On [[1 November (releases)|1 November]] 2024, the Big Finish Twitter account posted the second packshot image of the Platinum Edition.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1852338787260432792|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=1 November 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=If you pre-ordered a #DoctorWho: The Sirens of Time Redux special edition, something like this will be on its way to you very soon!}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/AndrewOnSeeAIR/status/1852339431602094513|title=Whoa! Does the Redux CD set also come with the original version of The Sirens of Time?|author=Andrew Hsieh|date of source=1 November 2024|website name=Andrew Hsieh 🔶🇺🇦 ([https://twitter.com/AndrewOnSeeAIR @AndrewOnSeeAIR]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref><ref name=":15" /> The Big Finish Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social account] would [https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social/post/3lbdcqpepyy2f post] the same image on [[19 November (releases)|19 November]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social/post/3lbdcqpepyy2f|title=😍 If you pre-ordered a Sirens of Time Redux special edition, something like this will be on its way to you very soon! Due for release on 26 November 2024.|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=19 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://bsky.app/profile/bigfinish.bsky.social @bigfinish]) on [https://bsky.app Bluesky]|accessdate=28 November 2024}}</ref> | ||
* A tweet from the Big Finish account stated that ''The Sirens of Time Redux'' would release a week from [[21 November (releases)|21 November]] 2024, ergo, [[28 November (releases)|28 November]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1859688237377245444|title=This day next week: Travel back 25 years with us! http://bgfn.sh/siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=21 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com/ Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> This is most likely an error as all other dates - and the day Redux did release - was on [[26 November (releases)|26 November]] 2024.<ref name=":7" /><ref name=":8" /><ref name=":9" /><ref name=":11" /><ref name=":12" /> | * A tweet from the Big Finish account stated that ''The Sirens of Time Redux'' would release a week from [[21 November (releases)|21 November]] 2024, ergo, [[28 November (releases)|28 November]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1859688237377245444|title=This day next week: Travel back 25 years with us! http://bgfn.sh/siren|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|date of source=21 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com/ Twitter]|accessdate=27 November 2024}}</ref> This is most likely an error as all other dates - and the day Redux did release - was on [[26 November (releases)|26 November]] 2024.<ref name=":7" /><ref name=":8" /><ref name=":21" /><ref name=":9" /><ref name=":22" /><ref name=":23" /><ref name=":11" /><ref name=":12" /> | ||
=== Differences between versions === | === Differences between versions === | ||
* Whereas the original focused on one Doctor per each of the first three parts, the Redux features all three incarnations throughout those parts. According to the Big Finish news article announcing the Redux, this was done "for a more narratively satisfying experience."<ref name=":0" /><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1809171384339140653|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=5 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=This is a new director’s cut of the story; where the first 3 episodes of the original each focused on just 1 Doctor, the new version intercuts between all of them for a more narratively satisfying experience. Redux also features new sound design & music. http://bgfn.sh/bfd24news}}</ref> Nicholas Briggs stated this made for "a significantly different unfolding of the narrative of the story" in the same article.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":13" /> | * Whereas the original focused on one Doctor per each of the first three parts, the Redux features all three incarnations throughout those parts. According to the Big Finish news article announcing the Redux, this was done "for a more narratively satisfying experience."<ref name=":0" /><ref>{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/1809171384339140653|accessdate=27 November 2024|website name=Big Finish Insider ([https://twitter.com/bigfinish @bigfinish]) on [https://twitter.com Twitter]|date of source=5 July 2024|author=[[Big Finish Productions]]|title=This is a new director’s cut of the story; where the first 3 episodes of the original each focused on just 1 Doctor, the new version intercuts between all of them for a more narratively satisfying experience. Redux also features new sound design & music. http://bgfn.sh/bfd24news}}</ref> Nicholas Briggs stated this made for "a significantly different unfolding of the narrative of the story" in the same article.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":13" /> | ||
* The | * The Delia Derbyshire [[Doctor Who theme#Version two|theme as used in the original]] is not used in the Redux. Instead, the respective themes for the Doctors are, though not sequentially. | ||
** [[Peter Howell|Peter Howell's]] [[Doctor Who theme#Seasons 18-22|arrangement]] is used for Part 1's opening, and Part 4's closing. | ** [[Peter Howell|Peter Howell's]] [[Doctor Who theme#Seasons 18-22|arrangement]] is used for Part 1's opening, and Part 4's closing. | ||
** [[Dominic Glynn|Dominic Glynn's]] [[Doctor Who theme#Season 23|arrangement]] is used for Part 1's cliffhanger; Part 2's opening and cliffhanger; Part 3's opening; and Part 4's opening. | ** [[Dominic Glynn|Dominic Glynn's]] [[Doctor Who theme#Season 23|arrangement]] is used for Part 1's cliffhanger; Part 2's opening and cliffhanger; Part 3's opening; and Part 4's opening. | ||
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* The original opened with the following line from a computer warning system on [[Gallifrey]] (voiced by Nicholas Briggs): ''"Sector 8 alert! Sector 8 alert! Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Repeat: Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Stand two on Sector 8!"'' in a pre-titles sequence. | * The original opened with the following line from a computer warning system on [[Gallifrey]] (voiced by Nicholas Briggs): ''"Sector 8 alert! Sector 8 alert! Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Repeat: Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Stand two on Sector 8!"'' in a pre-titles sequence. | ||
** In the Redux, there is no pre-titles sequence, and it opens with the merchant ship at sea as the TARDIS materialises inside it. The Fifth Doctor then exits, making the opening line of Redux, ''"Hmm. Just as I thought. A sea vessel of some sort... Probably steam turbines. Come on out, you two! Let's stretch your sea legs! While I use my tracker to see if this is where that time distortion, or whatever it was, is coming from."'' | ** In the Redux, there is no pre-titles sequence, and it opens with the merchant ship at sea as the TARDIS materialises inside it. The Fifth Doctor then exits, making the opening line of Redux, ''"Hmm. Just as I thought. A sea vessel of some sort... Probably steam turbines. Come on out, you two! Let's stretch your sea legs! While I use my tracker to see if this is where that time distortion, or whatever it was, is coming from."'' | ||
* The Doctors' [[telepathic contact] segment in the Redux is truncated significantly from the original's. | *Part 3 in the Redux ends with the bio-engineered assassins opening fire on the Seventh Doctor, instead of the scene of the Sixth Doctor being returned to the [[TARDIS]] and freeing the Temperon. This scene is moved to the beginning of Part 4, and removes the Doctor saying he cannot breathe when the Temperon absorbs him. | ||
* The Doctors' [[telepathic contact]] segment in Part 4 in the Redux is truncated significantly down to approximately three seconds, from the original's ninety seconds. | |||
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The Sirens of Time Redux, also known as The Sirens of Time - Redux, was a re-edited, re-scored and re-released edition of the first story in Big Finish's monthly range, The Sirens of Time [+]Loading...["The Sirens of Time (audio story)"], written by Nicholas Briggs and featuring Peter Davison as the Fifth Doctor, Colin Baker as the Sixth Doctor and Sylvester McCoy as the Seventh Doctor. It was released on 26 November 2024.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
It was released in celebration of the 25th anniversary of Big Finish making Doctor Who audio dramas.[12][13]
The updated title refers to the literary term redux, which comes from the Latin reducere: "to bring back".
Publisher's summary
Gallifrey is in a state of crisis, facing destruction at the hands of an overwhelming enemy. And the Doctor is involved in three different incarnations - each caught up in a deadly adventure, scattered across time and space. The web of time is threatened - and someone wants the Doctor dead.
The three incarnations of the Doctor must join together to set time back on the right track - but in doing so, will they unleash a still greater threat?
Plot
to be added
Cast
- Fifth Doctor - Peter Davison
- Sixth Doctor - Colin Baker
- Seventh Doctor - Sylvester McCoy
- The Temperon / Drudgers - Nicholas Briggs
- Commander Raldeth / Schmidt - Andrew Fettes
- Captain Schwieger / Captain / Knight 2 - Mark Gatiss
- Coordinator Vansell - Anthony Keetch
- Sancroff - Colin McIntyre
- Knight Commander Lyena - Sarah Mowat
- Delegate - Nicholas Pegg
- Ruthley - Maggie Stables
- The President - Michael Wade
- Commandant / Lt Zentner / Pilot Azimendah / Sub-Commander Solanec - John Wadmore
Worldbuilding
Editions
The Sirens of Time Redux was available in Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum editions. All editions were available for standard download.
Bundle Type | Overall Bundle Quantity | Bundle Contents | Bundle Formats | Price |
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Bronze | n/a | Audio Story | Download | £12.99 |
Silver | 1000 copies |
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£15.99 |
Gold | 150 copies |
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£44.99 |
Platinum | 100 copies |
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£65.99 |
Notes
- This release is a "redux" of The Sirens of Time [+]Loading...["The Sirens of Time (audio story)"], the very first Big Finish audio for Doctor Who.
- This release was originally announced as The Sirens of Time – Redux[12], the title was finalised as The Sirens of Time Redux.[1]
- This story was originally recorded on 6 and 7 March 1999 at Crosstown Studios.[14][15][16][17][18][19]
- The news article announcing the Redux states that The Sirens of Time "featured the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Doctors teaming up against a deadly threat to Gallifrey, with Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy reprising their roles on audio drama for the first time."[12] However, Colin Baker had already performed as the Sixth Doctor on audio in the radio drama Slipback [+]Loading...["Slipback (audio story)"] in 1985, and did so again later in the audiobook readings of Moon Graffiti [+]Loading...["Moon Graffiti (short story)"] and Vigil [+]Loading...["Vigil (audio story)"] for the audio anthology Out of the Darkness [+]Loading...["Out of the Darkness (audio anthology)"] in 1998, with the former two of the three stories alongside Nicola Bryant as Peri.
- Several references to the Audio Visuals audio dramas are made during this story, including;
- The appearance of Drudgers, originally robotic servants of Conglomerate who appeared in Conglomerate, The Destructor Contract and Subterfuge.
- The appearance of the Temperons, which first appeared in The Time Ravagers; and the mention of the Calfadorian Tri-Planetary Alliance, which first appeared in Maenad before being mentioned several times in future stories.
- For the Fifth Doctor, this story is set between The Five Doctors [+]Loading...["The Five Doctors (TV story)"] and Warriors of the Deep [+]Loading...["Warriors of the Deep (TV story)"]; for the Sixth Doctor, between The Trial of a Time Lord and Time and the Rani [+]Loading...["Time and the Rani (TV story)"]; and for the Seventh Doctor "immediately prior" to[19][20][8] or simply "before"[15][16][17][18] the 1996 TV Movie [+]Loading...["Doctor Who (TV story)","1996 TV Movie"].
- The Fifth Doctor is travelling with Tegan Jovanka and Vislor Turlough, who remain in his TARDIS throughout the story.
- According to PROSE: Instruments of Darkness, Evelyn Smythe was in the TARDIS while the Sixth Doctor was at the Kurgon Wonder.
Original production
- Main article: The Sirens of Time (audio story) (Notes)
Details from Redux behind the scenes extras
- According to Peter Davison, when asked if he remembered The Sirens of Time by Nicholas Briggs, "it wasn't in one's head... you can only know this in hindsight, that we [himself, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy] didn't think it was a beginning". Indeed, later in the extras, Briggs states that they would've simply been approached for The Sirens of Time only, with no mention of any future Big Finish productions at the time.[21]
- Colin Baker recollected that he was approached by Nicholas Briggs and Gary Russell to do The Sirens of Time. However, Gary Russell stated, "So the first thing I did, was, I went to Colin, and said, 'We're doing this - will you be part of it?", with no mention of Briggs approaching Colin also. He continued, saying he then asked Sylvester McCoy and Peter Davison the same question, in that order. When asking Davison, he added that Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy had already agreed, and said that Davison went, "'Well, I suppose I can't say 'no' then.'".[21]
- This same order of Gary Russell approaching Colin Baker, then Sylvester McCoy, and then Peter Davison, would be recollected by Davison in an interview for TV Choice by Graham Kibble-White.[22]
- Peter Davison remembered that The Sirens of Time was "hitherto... the Children in Need special that we did with EastEnders, that made no sense at all", before saying, "Sirens of Time also made no sense at all... I think I've got a reasonable grip - grasp of most Doctor Who stories... Most... And I had no idea what was going on. So you can imagine that if I had no idea what was going on, Colin or Sylvester had absolutely no clue. I mean, they were completely in the dark. Sylvester, I think he just said, 'Oh, I'm gonna, just roll my R's a bit. I think that's what I'll do.' ...But we had a fun time! It was a great time!"[21]
- He later elaborated, "We enjoyed it a lot, but, just, none of us knew what it was about... I'm not even sure that whoever directed it - I can't remember who did direct it now - knew either".[21] The director and writer of The Sirens of Time was Nicholas Briggs.
- At some point, Sylvester McCoy lost his script during recording.[nb 1] Colin Baker gave his script to McCoy and shared with Peter Davison's script.[21]
- Some answers of Peter Davison in the extras are also stated or similar to other statements given in his interview for TV Choice by Graham Kibble-White about his work on the original The Sirens of Time and his Big Finish Doctor Who work overall.[22] Specifically: those about his, Colin Baker's, and Sylvester McCoy's understanding of the story of The Sirens of Time; his thoughts to performing in Big Finish's Doctor Who audios and his re-association with Doctor Who in that respect; how he decided he would do his performance as the Fifth Doctor on audio; and his concern on photographs being taken during recordings that the audience will see, as he wants them to imagine the characters as how they looked onscreen, not as how the actors who played the characters look now.[22][21]
Redux production and release
- The Redux was announced on 8 June 2024[12][23] at Big Finish Day.[23] It features both a new sound design and incidental music score by Nicholas Briggs.[12][24][25]
- Toby Hrycek-Robinson helped Briggs "rescue the original source material off ancient digital audio tapes," by "skilfully extract[ing] the material".[12]
- All Editions include the original The Sirens of Time on download,[12][26] but only the Silver, Gold, and Platinum Editions include bonus tracks.[12]
- The bonus tracks are comprised of newly-conducted audio interviews by Nicholas Briggs with Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Sarah Mowat, Jason Haigh-Ellery, and Gary Russell, intercut with segments from the original production of The Sirens of Time - one of which includes a brief anecdote from Maggie Stables[21] - and a music suite which consists of incidental music tracks, also from the original production.[25] The suite begins with a version of the Doctor Who theme from this production that Nicholas Briggs comments was "perhaps, best-forgotten".[25] The theme utilises and remixes elements from Delia Derbyshire's arrangements.
- With Sarah Mowat's participation in the extras, this marks her latest and last contribution to a Big Finish Doctor Who production since playing Gajeeda in Dark Eyes 3 [+]Loading...["Dark Eyes 3 (audio anthology)"]: The Reviled [+]Loading...["The Reviled (audio story)"] in 2014 . Her last contribution for any Big Finish production was The Prisoner: Volume Three in 2019.
- The music track 'Call to Adventure' by Kevin MacLeod[27] is used at six minutes, thirty-three seconds into the behind the scenes extras.[21][nb 2]
- The Silver Edition was limited to 1000 copies and included the Redux on CD and download;[12][28] the Gold Edition was limited to 150 copies and also included the Redux on CD and download, with a Limited Edition Cassette tape;[12][29] and the Platinum Edition was limited to 100 copies, with the Redux on CD, download, the Cassette tape, and photo prints of the original The Sirens of Time production.[12][30]
- The cover was revealed on 1 July 2024.[31] Tom Webster posted the clean artwork to his Twitter the same day.[32] The costumes and bodies for the Doctors were provided by cosplayers Webster had asked to help with the cover.[33][34] Those of the Fifth and Sixth Doctor were provided by EspadonPatissier,[35] while the Seventh Doctor's was provided by Daniel Pederson.[36][37]
- With Webster's contribution of this cover, this marks his latest and last cover for Big Finish. Before this, his last covers were those for The Ninth Doctor Adventures: Old Friends [+]Loading...["Old Friends (audio anthology)"].[38]
- Rafe Wallbank would later credit Daniel Pederson for the costume and body of the Seventh Doctor on his cover for The Doctor and Carnacki [+]Loading...["The Doctor and Carnacki (audio anthology)"].[39][40]
- The webpages for the Redux Editions on the Big Finish website originally used the image of the recording tapes that were featured in the announcement article.[41][42][43] Following the cover reveal on 1 July 2024,[31] the images were changed to said cover the same day.[44][45]
- By 3 July 2024, the Gold and Platinum Editions were sold out, with the Big Finish Twitter account labelling the Silver Edition as "very limited!"[46] By 5 July 2024, the account said they were "about to sell-out [by the way]",[47] followed by the account posting on 8 July that for those who wanted a CD copy of the Redux to "Be quick!", as the image that was included with the post stated CD copies were 90% sold out.[48] On 9 July, they stated the amount was "down to double-digits".[49]
- The trailer for the Redux was released on 5 July 2024.[47]
- Sometime between 5 October 2024[51] and 6 November 2024, the Big Finish page for the Platinum Edition was updated to include two packshot images in the Backstage tab.[52]
- Sometime between 25 November[53] and 27 November 2024, photos of Peter Davison, Colin Baker at the original recording of The Sirens of Time, Jason Haigh-Ellery and Gary Russell being interviewed, and Nicholas Briggs at the original CD release of The Sirens of Time, all taken in 1999, were added to the Backstage tab.[54]
- On 1 November 2024, the Big Finish Twitter account posted the second packshot image of the Platinum Edition.[55][56][26] The Big Finish Bluesky account would post the same image on 19 November.[57]
- A tweet from the Big Finish account stated that The Sirens of Time Redux would release a week from 21 November 2024, ergo, 28 November.[58] This is most likely an error as all other dates - and the day Redux did release - was on 26 November 2024.[1][2][3][4][5][6][9][10]
Differences between versions
- Whereas the original focused on one Doctor per each of the first three parts, the Redux features all three incarnations throughout those parts. According to the Big Finish news article announcing the Redux, this was done "for a more narratively satisfying experience."[12][59] Nicholas Briggs stated this made for "a significantly different unfolding of the narrative of the story" in the same article.[12][24]
- The Delia Derbyshire theme as used in the original is not used in the Redux. Instead, the respective themes for the Doctors are, though not sequentially.
- Peter Howell's arrangement is used for Part 1's opening, and Part 4's closing.
- Dominic Glynn's arrangement is used for Part 1's cliffhanger; Part 2's opening and cliffhanger; Part 3's opening; and Part 4's opening.
- Keff McCulloch's arrangement is used only for Part 3's cliffhanger.
- The original opened with the following line from a computer warning system on Gallifrey (voiced by Nicholas Briggs): "Sector 8 alert! Sector 8 alert! Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Repeat: Unauthorised capsule entry imminent! Stand two on Sector 8!" in a pre-titles sequence.
- In the Redux, there is no pre-titles sequence, and it opens with the merchant ship at sea as the TARDIS materialises inside it. The Fifth Doctor then exits, making the opening line of Redux, "Hmm. Just as I thought. A sea vessel of some sort... Probably steam turbines. Come on out, you two! Let's stretch your sea legs! While I use my tracker to see if this is where that time distortion, or whatever it was, is coming from."
- Part 3 in the Redux ends with the bio-engineered assassins opening fire on the Seventh Doctor, instead of the scene of the Sixth Doctor being returned to the TARDIS and freeing the Temperon. This scene is moved to the beginning of Part 4, and removes the Doctor saying he cannot breathe when the Temperon absorbs him.
- The Doctors' telepathic contact segment in Part 4 in the Redux is truncated significantly down to approximately three seconds, from the original's ninety seconds.
Continuity
- Main article: The Sirens of Time (audio story) (Continuity)
Gallery
External links
- Official The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition) page at bigfinish.com
- Official The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition) page at bigfinish.com
- Official The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition) page at bigfinish.com
- Official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition) page at bigfinish.com
Footnotes
- ↑ Sylvester McCoy is shown to have a script in photographs of the recording of The Sirens of Time. The first behind the scenes segment that is of the original recording session has Colin Baker saying, "Sylv hasn't got a script". Presumably, McCoy lost it.
- ↑ Though the track name is not given nor Kevin MacLeod credited, it is clearly identifiable.
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Big Finish Productions (26 November 2024). Revisit The Sirens of Time today. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024. “The very first Big Finish Doctor Who audio story – starring Peter Davison, Colin Baker, and Sylvester McCoy – gets a special edition re-release, available now.”
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. News, Recent Releases sidebar. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 26 November 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024. “Doctor Who: The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL). Updated 26 November 2024. Released today!”
- ↑ 3.0 3.1 Big Finish Productions (26 November 2024). 🚨 OUT NOW 🚨 The original you might say... but reduxed! bgfn.sh/SirensRedux. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish.bsky.social) on Bluesky. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 Big Finish Productions (26 November 2024). 🚨 OUT NOW 🚨 The original you might say... but reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twtter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Big Finish Productions (25 November 2024). Tomorrow: It's Sirens time! If you haven't already pre-ordered: bgfn.sh/sirensredux. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish.bsky.social) on Bluesky. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 6.0 6.1 Big Finish Productions (25 November 2024). Tomorrow: It's Sirens time! If you haven't already pre-ordered: http://bgfn.sh/siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (24 November 2024). Ahead of the Redux this week, a cheeky look back at the OG Sirens of Time!. @bigfinishprod on Instagram. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 Big Finish Productions (24 November 2024). SOT: Redux drops this week! Here's what the website looked like around the time.. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 9.0 9.1 Big Finish Productions (24 November 2024). TUESDAY: The first #DoctorWho Big Finish audio, like you've never heard it before! http://bgfn.sh/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 10.0 10.1 Big Finish Productions (19 November 2024). This day next week: Get Reduxed! http://bgfn.sh/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (3 November 2024). This month: It's Redux O'clock baby! http://bgfn.sh/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 12.00 12.01 12.02 12.03 12.04 12.05 12.06 12.07 12.08 12.09 12.10 12.11 12.12 12.13 12.14 Big Finish Productions (8 June 2024). The Sirens of Time revisited. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (10 June 2024). 🚨 In case you missed it: We're celebrating 25 years of Doctor Who at Big Finish with a new director's cut of the very first release!. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 15.0 15.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 16.0 16.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 17.0 17.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 18.0 18.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 19.0 19.1 BIG FINISH PRODUCTIONS: Official Licensed Dr. Who Audio Adventures. THE SIRENS OF TIME. doctorwho.co.uk/bf-1. Archived from the original on 5 March 2000. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (19 July 2024). Here's a snippet of what the website looked like 25 years ago, when #DoctorWho: Sirens of Time was released!. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 21.4 21.5 21.6 21.7 Behind the scenes extras.
- ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 Graham Kibble-White (9 July 2024). The BIG interview: Doctor Who’s Peter Davison. tvchoicemagazine.co.uk. TV Choice. Retrieved on 28 November 2024.
- ↑ 23.0 23.1 Big Finish Productions (8 June 2024). 🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨 from #BigFinishDay. Click http://bgfn.sh/bfd24news to find out what this pile of #DoctorWho audio tapes is going to become.. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 24.0 24.1 Big Finish Productions (12 June 2024). "There’ll be some augmented sound design, a brand-new incidental music score by me, new behind-the-scenes content, and a significantly different unfolding of the narrative of the story." http://bgfn.sh/bfd24news. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 25.0 25.1 25.2 Nicholas Briggs' introduction to the music suite.
- ↑ 26.0 26.1 Big Finish Productions (1 November 2024). Illustrated is the platinum edition of Sirens Redux. All editions come with both versions of the story (as downloads). Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Kevin MacLeod. Call to Adventure. incomptech.com. Retrieved on 28 November 2024.
- ↑ 28.0 28.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'About' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 29.0 29.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'About' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Gold Edition: CD+DL+Cassette) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 30.0 30.1 Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'About' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ 31.0 31.1 Big Finish Productions (1 July 2024). 🚨 COVER REVEAL 🚨 The web of time is threatened - and someone wants the Doctor dead... the remix! http://bgfn.sh/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Tom Webster (1 July 2024). Clean cover for #DoctorWho Sirens of Time Redux from @bigfinish I used to listen to this one on tape back in the day!. Tom Webster (@tomwebsta) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Lorne MacDougall (2 July 2024). That McCoy look! This is great work!. Lorne MacDougall (@lornemacd) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Tom Webster (2 July 2024). Thanks to amazing cozplayers, I'll post about them later <3. Tom Webster (@tomwebsta) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ EspadonPatissier (2 July 2024). I’ve been a fan of @bigfinishprod for around a decade now, so when @tom.websta contacted me to act as some kind of « body double » for the Fifth and Sixth Doctor I didn’t think twice about it! I didn’t know it would be for something as special as The Sirens of Time Redux when he first reached out to me. I’m over the moon this happened, it still feels a bit surreal.. @espadonpatissier on Instagram. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Daniel Pederson (2 July 2024). Cats out the bag now! Following from @espadonpatissier recent post, a wonderful artist from Big Finish known as @tom.websta asking for me to stand in for the Seventh Doctor for his new artwork used for Sirens of Time Redux. I jumped at the chance to do so and the artwork turned out so well!. @_bizarrenerd_ on Instagram. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Daniel Pederson (3 July 2024). I definitely enjoyed helping out with the artwork on this one! Mr Webster did an outstanding job on this and I was honoured to be a part of it. Daniel Pederson (@BizarreNerd) on Twitter. Retrieved on 26 November 2024.
- ↑ Tom Webster (16 February 2022). First & last #DoctorWho for Big Finish 🥰. Tom Webster (@tomwebsta) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Rafe Wallbank (26 September 2024). WHAT IF Sylvester McCoy was in a big lake? Here’s my cover for the upcoming @bigfinish 7DA boxset, coming this November! #DoctorWho 💀 Many thanks to @ShayProd for the skeleton renders and @BizarreNerd for the TVM 7 body, couldn’t have done it without them! ❤️. Rafe Wallbank 🌌 (@rafeski_) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Daniel Pederson (26 September 2024). Amazing artwork by @rafeski_ here! It was an absolute pleasure to help you out with Seven’s costume!. Daniel Pederson (@BizarreNerd) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. Search Results - ‘Sirens of Time Redux’. Archived from the original on 8 June 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. The official The Sirens of Time Redux (Silver Edition: CD+DL) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 10 June 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. The official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 8 June 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. The official The Sirens of Time Redux (Bronze Edition: DL) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 1 July 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. Search Results - ‘Sirens of Time Redux’. Archived from the original on 19 July 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (3 July 2024). Platinum ❌ SOLD OUT ❌ Gold ❌ SOLD OUT ❌ Silver ❗VERY LIMITED❗ http://bgfn.sh/SilverS. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ 47.0 47.1 Big Finish Productions (5 July 2024). 🚨 FIRST LISTEN 🚨 The first #DoctorWho Big Finish audio, like you've never heard it before! http://bgfn.sh/Sirens Physical copies are about to sell-out btw: http://bgfn.sh/Silver. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (8 July 2024). ⌛ Anyone hoping to grab the limited edition CD of #DoctorWho: The Sirens of Time Redux? Be quick! http://bgfn.sh/SilverS. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (9 July 2024). CD copies of #DoctorWho: Sirens of Time are now down to double digits of availability ⏳ http://bgfn.sh/SilverS. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (10 July 2024). The Sirens of Time Redux is officially OUT OF PRINT http://BGFN.SH/Siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 5 October 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 6 November 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 25 November 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Audiobooks from Big Finish. 'Backstage' tab of the official The Sirens of Time Redux (Platinum Edition: CD+DL+Cassette+Prints) page. bigfinish.com. Archived from the original on 27 November 2024. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (1 November 2024). If you pre-ordered a #DoctorWho: The Sirens of Time Redux special edition, something like this will be on its way to you very soon!. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Andrew Hsieh (1 November 2024). Whoa! Does the Redux CD set also come with the original version of The Sirens of Time?. Andrew Hsieh 🔶🇺🇦 (@AndrewOnSeeAIR) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (19 November 2024). 😍 If you pre-ordered a Sirens of Time Redux special edition, something like this will be on its way to you very soon! Due for release on 26 November 2024.. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Bluesky. Retrieved on 28 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (21 November 2024). This day next week: Travel back 25 years with us! http://bgfn.sh/siren. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.
- ↑ Big Finish Productions (5 July 2024). This is a new director’s cut of the story; where the first 3 episodes of the original each focused on just 1 Doctor, the new version intercuts between all of them for a more narratively satisfying experience. Redux also features new sound design & music. http://bgfn.sh/bfd24news. Big Finish Insider (@bigfinish) on Twitter. Retrieved on 27 November 2024.