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I finally discovered who the little girl is, and it is actually pretty obvious if you think about it. The little girl has the power to regenerate, but the only timelord left alive (the doc) is a man, so he can't be a little girl. However, if you have played THe Mazes of The Dead, then you will know that Amhy also, apparently has the power to regenerate. Therefore, the little girl is either Amy herself, or more likely, the daughter of Amy and Rory. If it is Amy and Rory's daughter, then because Amy has the power to regenerate, there wouldn't even need to be any interference from the silence or the tardis, or the doctor being the father. [[Special:Contributions/69.251.176.120|69.251.176.120]] 00:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC) | I finally discovered who the little girl is, and it is actually pretty obvious if you think about it. The little girl has the power to regenerate, but the only timelord left alive (the doc) is a man, so he can't be a little girl. However, if you have played THe Mazes of The Dead, then you will know that Amhy also, apparently has the power to regenerate. Therefore, the little girl is either Amy herself, or more likely, the daughter of Amy and Rory. If it is Amy and Rory's daughter, then because Amy has the power to regenerate, there wouldn't even need to be any interference from the silence or the tardis, or the doctor being the father. [[Special:Contributions/69.251.176.120|69.251.176.120]] 00:35, May 5, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Who says a male Time Lord can't regenerate into a little girl? The 4th Doctor said he could, and there have been other such references in the show. And Moffat definitely knows about those references, since he talked about them after he wrote [The Curse of Fatal Death], a parody where the Doctor _did_ regenerate into a female. --[[Special:Contributions/99.33.26.0|99.33.26.0]] 04:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC) | :Who says a male Time Lord can't regenerate into a little girl? The 4th Doctor said he could, and there have been other such references in the show. And Moffat definitely knows about those references, since he talked about them after he wrote [The Curse of Fatal Death], a parody where the Doctor _did_ regenerate into a female. --[[Special:Contributions/99.33.26.0|99.33.26.0]] 04:26, May 5, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: By the way, it's Stormcage, not Stormhold. [[Special:Contributions/78.146.185.15|78.146.185.15]] 13:57, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | : By the way, it's Stormcage, not Stormhold. [[Special:Contributions/78.146.185.15|78.146.185.15]] 13:57, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: The thesis that River is in Stormcage is the first one that comes to mind when the Dctor is told of it by Octavian. It's neat, it's provoctive and I think that it's so obvious that Moffat intended to raise it in our minds and let us live with the idea for a while before telling us otherwise. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 14:06, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | : The thesis that River is in Stormcage for killing the Doctor is the first one that comes to mind when the Dctor is told of it by Octavian. It's neat, it's provoctive and I think that it's so obvious that Moffat intended to raise it in our minds and let us live with the idea for a while before telling us otherwise. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 14:06, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: One thing to note about the future doctors death. When she was scanning the space suit River asks the doctor if it could move without an occupent. Could it be that she thought at the time that it was the empty suit that killed the doctor rather than the girl. It is also possible that is what happened and the mention of the girl been "eaten" by the suit was to stop the doctor getting suspisous as to why she asked.[[Special:Contributions/82.11.57.232|82.11.57.232]] 14:22, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | : One thing to note about the future doctors death. When she was scanning the space suit River asks the doctor if it could move without an occupent. Could it be that she thought at the time that it was the empty suit that killed the doctor rather than the girl. It is also possible that is what happened and the mention of the girl been "eaten" by the suit was to stop the doctor getting suspisous as to why she asked.[[Special:Contributions/82.11.57.232|82.11.57.232]] 14:22, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: Like Boblipton, I'm suspicious of the hypothesis that the man River is in prison for killing is the Doctor and I'm suspicious of it for exactly the same reasons. [[Special:Contributions/78.146.185.15|78.146.185.15]] 14:25, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | : Like Boblipton, I'm suspicious of the hypothesis that the man River is in prison for killing is the Doctor and I'm suspicious of it for exactly the same reasons. [[Special:Contributions/78.146.185.15|78.146.185.15]] 14:25, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: The simplest explanation of River asking about the girl being "eaten" by the suit is that River had not, at that point, wondered how the girl could have called Nixon if she wasn't already in the suit. Even the Doctor occasionally misses things, why shouldn't River? | |||
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: For all we yet know, it could have been an empty suit that killed the Doctor, although he spoke to it as if it were a person he knew. [[Special:Contributions/78.146.185.15|78.146.185.15]] 14:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | |||
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:Here are my hair-brained ideas about the identity of the little girl/baby (I am presuming they are the same here): As many fans have already speculated, the big reveal will be when Rory exclaims at some point "that's my daughter!" and the Doctor says "No, she's mine" or something to that effect. So did the Doc and Amy actually get up to no good together off-camera? No. Amy was chosen to be a surrogate to breed a time-lord baby to use as some kind of weapon (as mentioned in the trailer for 'Good Man...', valuable DNA) by alien enemies, my guess as some kind of living 'time bomb' (maybe to blow up the TARDIS) OR as an attempt to engineer another TARDIS (to provide the 'living spirit' required, hinted at by the Doctor's Wife and the mysterious 'failed attempt TARDIS' in the Lodger, perhaps revealing the need for a time-lord soul to power a TARDIS or something). Either Amy's proximity to the Doctor was engineered to begin with or merely utilized for convenience (no clue how the DNA was implanted in her). The seeming regeneration of the little girl (if she and the baby are one and the same as is implied) adds evidence to the baby's time-lord DNA. Yet this leaves several possibilities as to the baby's identity and parentage also related to the identity of River Song. The baby is: A) a pure clone a la the Doctor's Daughter (most unlikely), River helped orchestrate B) Amy and the Doctor's, River is the baby/girl OR helped orchestrate C) River and the Doctor's, Amy is literally a surrogate, River orchestrated D) Amy and Rory's, somehow special being conceived by time-space travelling parents (as Amy wondered on), River is the baby/girl OR helped orchestrate the kidnap [[User:DreamSong|DreamSong]] 11:16, May 31, 2011 (UTC) | |||
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