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2) include a "guests" line for recurring characters like Mickey, the Brigadier, returning Doctors (in multi-Doctor stories) or companions, etc. who wouldn't belong in the normal companions category. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC) | 2) include a "guests" line for recurring characters like Mickey, the Brigadier, returning Doctors (in multi-Doctor stories) or companions, etc. who wouldn't belong in the normal companions category. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The problem with breaking down setting into "place" and "time" is that it gets unreasonably difficult once you start exploring stories set in ''multiple'' places and times. It needs to be a free-form category into which people can say things like "16th century Earth and 24th century Skaro". If you broke the time from the place, it'd be difficult to express what you mean. Go to ''[[City of Death]]'', for example, and try to figure out a way two separate variables can express as clearly what the one variable currently does. | |||
::That said, I have built in a "migratory variable", in that over time "year" should become "setting". If you're a user who hasn't read the instructions on the template page, and are just going off of the name of the variable, this is a very confusing thing. If the variable were instead "setting", it'd make more intuitive sense. | |||
::As for the guests line, well this is something I'm gonna have to think on a bit. Already, the template allows for "guest Doctors" and "guest companions", to make multi-Doctor or other "reunion" episodes to make better sense. But I'll have to think a bit about a "co-star" or other such line. We don't want everyone who's got a benevolent, featuring role to be included in the infobox. Otherwise, we'd end up with people like Professor Travers, which is not, I think, your intent. I never have understood what's so wrong with calling these people "companions" anyway, cause they are. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 15:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::actually I think that Professor Travers ''would'' belong under Guests. Guests IMO means any recurring character (i.e. more than one story) other than traditional companions and bad guys. (as for considering him a companion, some yardsticks: | |||
:::* announced to the press and given a special photocall (so that Sara Kingdom would qualify and [[Jennifer Buckingham]] would not) | |||
:::* consistently included in the many "lists of companions" | |||
:::I don't like the family members thing because that would give minor one-off characters like Tegan's mum special status. likewise the many unmemorable and unimportant UNIT soldiers. I would just go with returning Doctors and companions, and other guests. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 00:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::i think the UNIT entry is suppossed to be for recurring characters like Benton or Yates [[User:Americanwhofan|Americanwhofan]] 08:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::::I think the related stories does not suit the flow of it, its detracting, especially since it can be added later on in the article, the anatgonist should be left as enemy because there is a user that adds character who are not consider the enemy of the story for example adding Rodrick as an enemy on the Parting of the ways infobox [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 09:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::I do want though for the navigation to preserve the next / previous story, I think that's imperative for ease of navigation (rather than just arrows as with the comic infobox test). | |||
::::::Also not sure about the little TV, it seems to detract from the title of the story in question. | |||
::::::Additionally where have series and story number disappeared to? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I think that it shou go "Doctor", "Companion(s)", "Recurring characters". For The Three Doctors it would go "Third Doctor", "Jo Grant", "First Doctor, Second Doctor, Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart, John Benton, Mike Yates"; The Five Doctors would go "Fifth Doctor", "Tegan Jovanka, Vislor Turlough", "First Doctor, Second Doctor, Third Doctor, Fourth Doctor, Susan, Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart, Sarah Jane Smith, Romana II, K-9 Mark III, Borusa" and A Good Man Goes to War would go "Eleventh Doctor", "Amy Pond, Rory Williams", "River Song, Dorium Maldovar, Henry Avery, Toby Avery, Danny Boy". [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 05:56, June 22, 2011 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 05:56, 22 June 2011
that looks very good[[edit source]]
particularly the tv icon. two suggestion:
1) break down "setting" into place and time, on two setting lines, which would look neater.
2) include a "guests" line for recurring characters like Mickey, the Brigadier, returning Doctors (in multi-Doctor stories) or companions, etc. who wouldn't belong in the normal companions category. --Stardizzy2 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- The problem with breaking down setting into "place" and "time" is that it gets unreasonably difficult once you start exploring stories set in multiple places and times. It needs to be a free-form category into which people can say things like "16th century Earth and 24th century Skaro". If you broke the time from the place, it'd be difficult to express what you mean. Go to City of Death, for example, and try to figure out a way two separate variables can express as clearly what the one variable currently does.
- That said, I have built in a "migratory variable", in that over time "year" should become "setting". If you're a user who hasn't read the instructions on the template page, and are just going off of the name of the variable, this is a very confusing thing. If the variable were instead "setting", it'd make more intuitive sense.
- As for the guests line, well this is something I'm gonna have to think on a bit. Already, the template allows for "guest Doctors" and "guest companions", to make multi-Doctor or other "reunion" episodes to make better sense. But I'll have to think a bit about a "co-star" or other such line. We don't want everyone who's got a benevolent, featuring role to be included in the infobox. Otherwise, we'd end up with people like Professor Travers, which is not, I think, your intent. I never have understood what's so wrong with calling these people "companions" anyway, cause they are. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 15:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- actually I think that Professor Travers would belong under Guests. Guests IMO means any recurring character (i.e. more than one story) other than traditional companions and bad guys. (as for considering him a companion, some yardsticks:
- announced to the press and given a special photocall (so that Sara Kingdom would qualify and Jennifer Buckingham would not)
- consistently included in the many "lists of companions"
- I don't like the family members thing because that would give minor one-off characters like Tegan's mum special status. likewise the many unmemorable and unimportant UNIT soldiers. I would just go with returning Doctors and companions, and other guests. --Stardizzy2 00:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- i think the UNIT entry is suppossed to be for recurring characters like Benton or Yates Americanwhofan 08:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think the related stories does not suit the flow of it, its detracting, especially since it can be added later on in the article, the anatgonist should be left as enemy because there is a user that adds character who are not consider the enemy of the story for example adding Rodrick as an enemy on the Parting of the ways infobox Bigshowbower 09:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- I do want though for the navigation to preserve the next / previous story, I think that's imperative for ease of navigation (rather than just arrows as with the comic infobox test).
- Also not sure about the little TV, it seems to detract from the title of the story in question.
- Additionally where have series and story number disappeared to? --Tangerineduel 13:36, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think that it shou go "Doctor", "Companion(s)", "Recurring characters". For The Three Doctors it would go "Third Doctor", "Jo Grant", "First Doctor, Second Doctor, Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart, John Benton, Mike Yates"; The Five Doctors would go "Fifth Doctor", "Tegan Jovanka, Vislor Turlough", "First Doctor, Second Doctor, Third Doctor, Fourth Doctor, Susan, Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart, Sarah Jane Smith, Romana II, K-9 Mark III, Borusa" and A Good Man Goes to War would go "Eleventh Doctor", "Amy Pond, Rory Williams", "River Song, Dorium Maldovar, Henry Avery, Toby Avery, Danny Boy". Bigredrabbit 05:56, June 22, 2011 (UTC)