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::::I suggest just getting rid of the category and replacing it with an article that goes into depth of defining it, more so then the few paragraphs in the category. | ::::I suggest just getting rid of the category and replacing it with an article that goes into depth of defining it, more so then the few paragraphs in the category. | ||
::::Much like the [[Gothic stories]] (okay, I admit I did write most of the article), but it does define the concept better than the category ever did. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:36, July 27, 2011 (UTC) | ::::Much like the [[Gothic stories]] (okay, I admit I did write most of the article), but it does define the concept better than the category ever did. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:36, July 27, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::The question of deleting the category is a "chicken or the egg" kinda proposition. If you can define "pseudo-historical" in an ''article'', that means you have created the basis for a ''category''. And if you have a ''category'' of pseudo-historicals, then you can easily create a ''dynamic'' list of them on the pseudo-historical article. Like so: | |||
<dpl> | |||
category=Pseudo-historical stories | |||
columns=4 | |||
</dpl> | |||
::If you don't like the text on the category page, fine, change it. But don't delete the category. You can do such wonderful things with categories. | |||
::[[User:Tybort|Tybort]]s got the wrong end of the stick, though. He seems to be laboring under the false apprehension that category page text is subject to the same constraints as a regular article. It's not. The point of category text is to help people to make judgements about where to place pages. It's not an article, in the sense that it's not bound by the need to provide references. The point of the text is merely to help with page organisation. | |||
::Now, it appears that the text doesn't help with [[The Eleventh Hour]], and that's because I simply didn't consider TEH at all when I wrote the text. TEH is quite unique in that regard, because it's got such an odd setting. You only find out ''after the fact'' that it was set in the very near past. It's rare enough to have a story set in the ''slight'' past; it's even weirder that you don't find out the setting of an episode ''within'' that episode. It takes until ''Pandorica'', or at least '''Flesh and Stone'', to figure out that "Amy's time" is 2010. So it's in the slight past, but we don't know that until several episodes later. Very weird episode. | |||
::I think you'd have to say that while it does meet the definition I threw up there, it's probably not what most people would consider a pseudo-historical. If you were to write a proper article about this topic, I'm not sure you'd find anyone else's definition would be sufficiently robust to specifically exclude TEH, cause it's such an outlier in the history of DW narrative. But neither are you going to find any reputable source calling it a pseudo-historical. | |||
;:Still, we need to look for a better definition. We need a proper article so we know what to put in the category, so that the article, in turn, can be populated correctly. Circular, ain't it? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''07:49:17 Tue '''02 Aug 2011 </span> |
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