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This is too long to try to write in the article but there needs to be some clarification because of what I've seen written elsewhere, so I'll try to be fairly exhaustive. Don't go looking for Silurians and Sea Devils in Moore's League. "Silurian throwback" is the best you get and some readers of the series hold that this is a coincidence.
This is too long to try to write in the article but there needs to be some clarification because of what I've seen written elsewhere, so I'll try to be fairly exhaustive. Don't go looking for Silurians and Sea Devils in Moore's League. "Silurian throwback" is the best you get and some readers of the series hold that this is a coincidence.


Besides saying the gill-man in the Black Lagoon was a Silurian throwback, it suggested it may have come from the plateau in [[Arthur Conan Doyle]]'s ''The Lost World'' or may be connected to the Deep Ones from [[H. P. Lovecraft]]'s ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'', which makes sense since they both have gills (although Moore slaps tentacles on them for some reason). ''[[All-Consuming Fire]]'' has Lord [[John Roxton]], a few references to a Professor (George) Challenger, and a certain [[Dagon]] reference which makes a weird but very indirect connection to the Whoniverse if you want to force it.
Besides saying the gill-man in the Black Lagoon was a Silurian throwback, it suggested it may have come from the plateau in [[Arthur Conan Doyle]]'s ''The Lost World'' or may be connected to the Deep Ones from [[H. P. Lovecraft]]'s ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth'', which makes sense since they both have gills (although Moore slaps tentacles on them for some reason). ''[[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]]'' has Lord [[John Roxton]], a few references to a Professor (George) Challenger, and a certain [[Dagon]] reference which makes a weird but very indirect connection to the Whoniverse if you want to force it.


Are there others that could be Earth Reptiles even if Moore's travelogue writing doesn't connect them? The Vril-ya are subterranean, telepathic, and have giant reptiles about, but also look like winged red demons and heal by kissing. (''[[The Shadow in the Glass]]'' apparently references the novel ''The Coming Race''.) The Streaming Kingdom denizens are humans drowned in the English Channel and the St Brendan's Isle water-babies likewise were human. The civilized "dino-saurs" of the North Pole Kingdom are described as gigantic (by Moore, I don't have much information on ''Le People du Pole''). Other subterranean kingdoms name-checked but largely ignored by Moore include Pluto and Atvatabar, which have weirdly coloured people, Plutonia, which has humans and dinosaurs, Kosekin Country, which has humans and big reptiles, Ruffal, which has humans and bat-winged humanoids, and Pellucidar. Pellucidar has humans and lots of races, including the psychic pterosaurs known as Mahars and the Horibs, the snake people first encountered by [[Tarzan]]. Neat but Moore ignored them.
Are there others that could be Earth Reptiles even if Moore's travelogue writing doesn't connect them? The Vril-ya are subterranean, telepathic, and have giant reptiles about, but also look like winged red demons and heal by kissing. (''[[The Shadow in the Glass]]'' apparently references the novel ''The Coming Race''.) The Streaming Kingdom denizens are humans drowned in the English Channel and the St Brendan's Isle water-babies likewise were human. The civilized "dino-saurs" of the North Pole Kingdom are described as gigantic (by Moore, I don't have much information on ''Le People du Pole''). Other subterranean kingdoms name-checked but largely ignored by Moore include Pluto and Atvatabar, which have weirdly coloured people, Plutonia, which has humans and dinosaurs, Kosekin Country, which has humans and big reptiles, Ruffal, which has humans and bat-winged humanoids, and Pellucidar. Pellucidar has humans and lots of races, including the psychic pterosaurs known as Mahars and the Horibs, the snake people first encountered by [[Tarzan]]. Neat but Moore ignored them.
--[[User:Nyktimos|Nyktimos]] 04:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
--[[User:Nyktimos|Nyktimos]] 04:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen[[edit source]]

This is too long to try to write in the article but there needs to be some clarification because of what I've seen written elsewhere, so I'll try to be fairly exhaustive. Don't go looking for Silurians and Sea Devils in Moore's League. "Silurian throwback" is the best you get and some readers of the series hold that this is a coincidence.

Besides saying the gill-man in the Black Lagoon was a Silurian throwback, it suggested it may have come from the plateau in Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World or may be connected to the Deep Ones from H. P. Lovecraft's The Shadow Over Innsmouth, which makes sense since they both have gills (although Moore slaps tentacles on them for some reason). All-Consuming Fire has Lord John Roxton, a few references to a Professor (George) Challenger, and a certain Dagon reference which makes a weird but very indirect connection to the Whoniverse if you want to force it.

Are there others that could be Earth Reptiles even if Moore's travelogue writing doesn't connect them? The Vril-ya are subterranean, telepathic, and have giant reptiles about, but also look like winged red demons and heal by kissing. (The Shadow in the Glass apparently references the novel The Coming Race.) The Streaming Kingdom denizens are humans drowned in the English Channel and the St Brendan's Isle water-babies likewise were human. The civilized "dino-saurs" of the North Pole Kingdom are described as gigantic (by Moore, I don't have much information on Le People du Pole). Other subterranean kingdoms name-checked but largely ignored by Moore include Pluto and Atvatabar, which have weirdly coloured people, Plutonia, which has humans and dinosaurs, Kosekin Country, which has humans and big reptiles, Ruffal, which has humans and bat-winged humanoids, and Pellucidar. Pellucidar has humans and lots of races, including the psychic pterosaurs known as Mahars and the Horibs, the snake people first encountered by Tarzan. Neat but Moore ignored them. --Nyktimos 04:38, April 5, 2011 (UTC)