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[[Tardis:Manual of Style#Dates]] says: | [[Tardis:Manual of Style#Dates]] says: | ||
:The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in a [[wikipedia:cardinal number|cardinal number]] format. | :The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in a [[wikipedia:cardinal number|cardinal number]] format. Thus, [[1st January]], [[12th July]] and [[2nd May]]. | ||
First, the cardinal numbers are 1, 2, 3, etc., distinguished from the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. In other words, this is saying the exact opposite of what it intends. | First, the cardinal numbers are 1, 2, 3, etc., distinguished from the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. In other words, this is saying the exact opposite of what it intends. | ||
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So, this should say something like: | So, this should say something like: | ||
:The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in [[wikipedia:ordinal number (linguistics)|ordinal number]] format, with explicit [[wikipedia:ordinal indicator|ordinal | :The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in [[wikipedia:ordinal number (linguistics)|ordinal number]] format, with explicit [[wikipedia:ordinal indicator|ordinal indicators]]. Thus, [[1st January]], [[12th July]] and [[2nd May]]. | ||
Or maybe a less verbose and technical version of the same idea. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.35|173.228.85.35]] 11:01, September 5, 2011 (UTC) | Or maybe a less verbose and technical version of the same idea. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.35|173.228.85.35]] 11:01, September 5, 2011 (UTC) | ||
For articles with dates, don't spell the numbers out. Use numerals. Use the form "1 January", not "the first of January".[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 11:14, September 5, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 11:14, 5 September 2011
If this thread's title doesn't specify it's spoilery, don't bring any up.
Tardis:Manual of Style#Dates says:
- The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in a cardinal number format. Thus, 1st January, 12th July and 2nd May.
First, the cardinal numbers are 1, 2, 3, etc., distinguished from the ordinal numbers 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. In other words, this is saying the exact opposite of what it intends.
Second, Wikipedia explicitly agrees with most linguists that the day in a date is an ordinal number whether or not it's written with the explicit indicator. A third of the article wikipedia:ordinal number (linguistics) is dedicated to explaining, in effect, that some countries write "September 5, 2011" with the "5" meaning the ordinal "fifth" (and pronounced that way).
Finally, the Wikipedia link given is to the article on set-theoretic cardinals, not the one on ordinary-language cardinals (which are under wikipedia:cardinal number (linguistics), and the same would be true if it were just corrected to "ordinal".
So, this should say something like:
- The names of articles having to do with dates shall be in ordinal number format, with explicit ordinal indicators. Thus, 1st January, 12th July and 2nd May.
Or maybe a less verbose and technical version of the same idea. --173.228.85.35 11:01, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
For articles with dates, don't spell the numbers out. Use numerals. Use the form "1 January", not "the first of January".Boblipton 11:14, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
