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Actually, in ''Amy's Choice'', the Doctor's TARDIS has a dedication plaque stating that it was first authorised for time travel by the Shadow Proclamation, which would seem to support the idea that they had significant links with Gallifrey by the time the Doctor became a renegade, and that the Time Lords required their approval for at least some actions. How this ties in with the Proclamation in the new series speaking of the Time Lords as legends, I'm really not sure. [[Special:Contributions/194.168.208.42|194.168.208.42]] 12:21, November 24, 2011 (UTC) | Actually, in ''Amy's Choice'', the Doctor's TARDIS has a dedication plaque stating that it was first authorised for time travel by the Shadow Proclamation, which would seem to support the idea that they had significant links with Gallifrey by the time the Doctor became a renegade, and that the Time Lords required their approval for at least some actions. How this ties in with the Proclamation in the new series speaking of the Time Lords as legends, I'm really not sure. [[Special:Contributions/194.168.208.42|194.168.208.42]] 12:21, November 24, 2011 (UTC) | ||
The "legendary" status of the Time Lords is presumably a consequence of the Time War. Memory and records of the Time Lords appears to vary with some races/authorities clearly knowing quite a lot about them, while others seem to retain little or no knowledge of them. In that situation, someone who had heard only second-hand accounts of them might well regard those accounts as legends, rather than history. Until the 19th century, when its site was found, Troy was often regarded as only legendary. (There's plenty of doubt that Heinrich Schliemann was the real discoverer of the site of Troy but none that he brought the discovery to widespread public attention.) The situation of Gallifrey has similarities to that of Troy before the excavations at Hissarlik. --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.76.118|89.241.76.118]] 13:07, November 24, 2011 (UTC) | |||
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I read on this Wiki that according to a recently published reference book to the series, the Shadow Proclamation policed the Time Lords and regulated their operations throughout history. This just seems a bit unlikely to me; I know the Shadow Proclamation is powerful, but powerful enough to have had any authority over Gallifrey? Nah. What do others reckon? 82.2.136.93 17:31, November 22, 2011 (UTC)   I don't know what the source for that is, but I would have to agree with you. The Time Lords had their own laws to prevent them from screwing up the universe, and even if they didn't the shadow proclamation could hardly do anything to stop them.Icecreamdif talk to me 18:33, November 22, 2011 (UTC)
Think of the Donation of Constantine. Boblipton talk to me 18:53, November 22, 2011 (UTC)
The Shadow Proclamation called the Time Lords "the stuff of legends". Hardly seems likely they policed them. TemporalSpleen talk to me 19:11, November 22, 2011 (UTC)
the shadow proclomation was probably made as a result of the timelords not being there as someone still needs to police the universe. but i doubt they policed the timelords themselves. Imamadmad talk to me 09:00, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
But Shadow Proclamation from an earlier time could easily be much more influential than what we saw on screen. Just like how current Torchwood is nothing like Torchwood before Battle of Canary Wharf and how Gwen knows very little about old Torchwood. --222.166.181.78 12:44, November 23, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, in Amy's Choice, the Doctor's TARDIS has a dedication plaque stating that it was first authorised for time travel by the Shadow Proclamation, which would seem to support the idea that they had significant links with Gallifrey by the time the Doctor became a renegade, and that the Time Lords required their approval for at least some actions. How this ties in with the Proclamation in the new series speaking of the Time Lords as legends, I'm really not sure. 194.168.208.42 12:21, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
The "legendary" status of the Time Lords is presumably a consequence of the Time War. Memory and records of the Time Lords appears to vary with some races/authorities clearly knowing quite a lot about them, while others seem to retain little or no knowledge of them. In that situation, someone who had heard only second-hand accounts of them might well regard those accounts as legends, rather than history. Until the 19th century, when its site was found, Troy was often regarded as only legendary. (There's plenty of doubt that Heinrich Schliemann was the real discoverer of the site of Troy but none that he brought the discovery to widespread public attention.) The situation of Gallifrey has similarities to that of Troy before the excavations at Hissarlik. --89.241.76.118 13:07, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
