Howling:Adelaide crack in time

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How come Adelaide Brooke didn't forget the Dalek invasion of Earth 2008, but Amy did. She didn't travel through time until after Mars, and it wasn't in her timeline. Could someone explain, though I think its just thats RTD or SM have not done too well with the laws of time. Probably SM coiz RTD had no IDEA ABOUT MOFFAT'S PLANS. Caged1 ^{talk to me} 22:05, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

The cracks happened later. I know that doesn't make much sense, but look at itfrom the Doctor's timeline. Boblipton ^{talk to me} 22:17, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, the following response could potentially get so complicated that I probably won't even know what I'm talking about by the end of it. Imagine that there are two timelines. One is the simple day to day timeline with "important" points in it now and again. The other is sort of a timeline that completely covers the whole of the other. This is a timeline that the Doctor, Time Agents, and the Time Field that forms the cracks use. If something, like the cracks, happens in the Doctor's timeline, it completely alters the others. So basically while Adelaide was a lot further ahead in OUR timeline, in the Doctor's he had already done everything there and the time field affected HIS timeline shortly afterwards with the whole cracks thing. If this makes no sense, and it probably doesn't, then someone else please put it in simpler terms. 94.72.209.209^{talk to me} 22:25, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

The idea of a "meta-time" has been put forward in at least one other topic (probably archived, by now) and something of the kind does seem to be the only way to make sense of the thing. It can't be the same as the Doctor's personal timeline because that can and occasionally does loop back on itself (in The Impossible Astronaut, for example). It's not even the same as the running sequence of the show, because that can include flashbacks, but it's closer to that than to anything else. Quite a lot has already been said about this idea and I don't want to repeat it here. To find the earlier discussions, try searching the archives for the term "meta-time" (I know it's been used in the discussions). --89.240.240.49^{talk to me} 00:34, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

this is the original thread which i have also linked to in another un-archived post http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Howling:How_does_everyone_know_the_Time_Lords_are_gone%3F&t=20111107194042 . to put it simply, the reason adelaid's memory haddn't been affected is the same reasont that the time war doesn't exist in any part of space-time anymore. Imamadmad ^{talk to me} 02:13, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Another Idea. Could it mean it has more to do with the events of Stolen Earth/Journey's End than the events of Waters of Mars? If you're lost I mean is it related to the fact that the memory of the event lasts longer than the event itself. Because Stolen/Journey happens before Cyberking and Adelaide remembers! Sorry if you're confused. I'm a bit! Caged1 ^{talk to me} 19:13, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Caged1: I'm not clear what it is you're trying to say. Would you clarify it, please. --89.241.72.64^{talk to me} 19:17, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think caged1 is saying that Adelaide remembers the invasion because it had a big impact on her life. If not then please clarify. 94.72.209.160^{talk to me} 20:49, December 30, 2011 (UTC)