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*[[The Brain of Morbius (TV story)]]
*[[The Brain of Morbius (TV story)]]
*[[The Talons of Weng-Chiang (TV story)]] - character pages particularly ([[Henry Gordon Jago]] and Litefoot affected)
*[[The Talons of Weng-Chiang (TV story)]] - character pages particularly ([[Henry Gordon Jago]] and Litefoot affected)
*Almost all of [[Season 16|Key to Time]] story pages are missing a single picture.
*Almost all of [[Season 16 (Doctor Who 1963)|Key to Time]] story pages are missing a single picture.
*[[City of Death (TV story)]] - check character pages  
*[[City of Death (TV story)]] - check character pages  
*[[Logopolis (TV story)]]
*[[Logopolis (TV story)]]
*[[Castrovalva (TV story)]] - several pics now gone, but we'll need a new pic of the [[Tardis Index File]] screen in particular  
*[[Castrovalva (TV story)]] - several pics now gone, but we'll need a new pic of the [[TARDIS information system]] screen in particular  
*[[Timelash (TV story)]]
*[[Timelash (TV story)]]
*[[Remembrance of the Daleks (TV story)]]
*[[Remembrance of the Daleks (TV story)]]
*[[Doctor Who logo]]


A few other pages have had pictures wrenched from them, but no other pages have been left substantially denuded of illustration.
A few other pages have had pictures wrenched from them, but no other pages have been left substantially denuded of illustration.
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You might wonder why it was necessary to de-illustrate so many of the classic series pages.  Well, "necessary" is a strong word, but it was certainly expedient.  Beyond the fact that these images came from a source we've slowly been marginalising over the years, most of the pictures just weren't that good.  Almost all of them violated our basic [[T:ICC|image guidelines]].  Namely, they were almost all of a non-widescreen aspect ratio, when it's easily possible to obtain such a ratio.  Moreover, they ''all'' came from VHS sources ''at best''.  Now that the DVD range is nearly complete — and indeed ''all'' the stories mentioned above have been released to DVD — there's no reason to keep these relatively grainy DWIA images around.  
You might wonder why it was necessary to de-illustrate so many of the classic series pages.  Well, "necessary" is a strong word, but it was certainly expedient.  Beyond the fact that these images came from a source we've slowly been marginalising over the years, most of the pictures just weren't that good.  Almost all of them violated our basic [[T:ICC|image guidelines]].  Namely, they were almost all of a non-widescreen aspect ratio, when it's easily possible to obtain such a ratio.  Moreover, they ''all'' came from VHS sources ''at best''.  Now that the DVD range is nearly complete — and indeed ''all'' the stories mentioned above have been released to DVD — there's no reason to keep these relatively grainy DWIA images around.  
== How you can help ==
== How you can help ==
Just pick one of the above stories from your DVD collection, rewatch it, and take snapshots along the way.  Then, upload the pics and replace the deleted images.  Please don't use the same filename that was there before.  DWIA filenames were logical for ''that'' website, but make no sense on ours.  Choose a properly descriptive filename instead.  Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">15:47: Thu&nbsp;31 May 2012&nbsp;</span>
Just pick one of the above stories from your DVD collection, rewatch it, and take snapshots along the way.  Then, upload the pics and replace the deleted images.  Please don't use the same filename that was there before.  DWIA filenames were logical for ''that'' website, but make no sense on ours.  Choose a properly descriptive filename instead.  Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}15:47: Thu&nbsp;31 May 2012&nbsp;</span>
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== Question ==
This may be a stupid question, but how do you take snapshots? I'm thinking you don't mean take a picture of your tv screen while watching the video, so just how is this done? Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] <sup>[[User talk:Shambala108|talk to me]]</sup> 18:29, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Not a stupid question at all.  There are many ways to get a screenshot.  You can push the {{key|PrntScrn}} button on your Windows based machine, or {{key|Shift}}-{{Key|Command}}-{{key|3}} on your OSX machine, and then crop the resulting image.  Or you can use whatever command your playback software allows.
 
:Personally, I think the easiest method is to use VLC as your primary playback software (available at http://www.videolan.org/index.html) and then [http://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Usage:Snapshot follow these simple instructions].  VLC is available on all platforms, it opens ''everything'', and it has superior audio fidelity to any playback software I've ever used.  If you've not been using VLC, you've been missing out. (That ''would'' be an advertisement, 'cept that VLC is free.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}12:07: Sun&nbsp;03 Jun 2012&nbsp;</span>
 
:: I have a feeling the instructions are outdated. I checked the hotkeys under preferences myself, and apparently the default is {{key|Shift}}-{{key|S}}, not {{key|Ctrl}}-{{key|Alt}}-{{key|S}}. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 16:39, July 8, 2012 (UTC)
:::I dunno, Tybort.  I don't have a Windows machine to check on anymore, but it definitely used to be — and VLC themselves are saying in [http://www.videolan.org/support/faq.html  their FAQ] that it ''still'' is — {{key|Ctrl}}-{{key|Alt}}-{{key|S}}. Certainly, as of version 2.0.2, the ''current'' Mac default is as it has been since version 0: {{key|Command}}-{{key|Alt}}-{{key|S}}.  This suggests they're still using {{key|Ctrl}} on the Windows side.  Maybe you've inadvertently changed your own defaults and forgot that you did it? The page at the VideoLAN wiki referred to above was written only in December, so if there have been changes, maybe they are super-recent.  It seems weird, though, that VideoLAN would have made the version 2.0.2 Windows and Mac keys "asymmetrical", as it were.


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:::In any case, users can double-check the hotkey by going to '''Preferences | Interface | Hotkeys''' on a Windows machine.  Once there, check '''Advanced options''' and look for the keys next to '''Take video snapshot'''.  (Mac users have a more straightforward path:  just go to '''Preferences | Hotkeys''' and look for '''Take video snapshot'''.)
 
:::If you're investigating this issue further, please note that, in general, VLC uses the word ''snapshot'', not ''screenshot''.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}16:12: Mon&nbsp;09 Jul 2012&nbsp;</span>

Latest revision as of 19:47, 22 April 2024

Index → Tech notes → DWIA images deleted
Spoilers are strongly policed here.
If this thread's title doesn't specify it's spoilery, don't bring any up.
Pursuant to T:DWIA, a purge of all images from the Doctor Who Image Archive has today been completed. This amounted to only about 100 remaining images, but a few pages were disproportionately affected. The following pages, and the character pages that flow therefrom, now desperately need editor attention:

A few other pages have had pictures wrenched from them, but no other pages have been left substantially denuded of illustration.

Other stragglers[[edit source]]

There are a number of other files which had the DWIA copyright tag. Some of these were undoubtedly mis-licensed. The DWIA is generally a place our editors went for old series pics, and a lot of these are from the new series. Most of them weren't being used anywhere. But a few, notably the ones that are publicity shots of actors, probably did derive from DWIA. In any case, they're all deleted now. But I include the following list as a sort of guide to what might need to be replace. Bear in mind, though, that a lot of these were images that weren't actually posted to pages.

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User talk:CzechOut/Archive 4 (← links)

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Why do this?[[edit source]]

You might wonder why it was necessary to de-illustrate so many of the classic series pages. Well, "necessary" is a strong word, but it was certainly expedient. Beyond the fact that these images came from a source we've slowly been marginalising over the years, most of the pictures just weren't that good. Almost all of them violated our basic image guidelines. Namely, they were almost all of a non-widescreen aspect ratio, when it's easily possible to obtain such a ratio. Moreover, they all came from VHS sources at best. Now that the DVD range is nearly complete — and indeed all the stories mentioned above have been released to DVD — there's no reason to keep these relatively grainy DWIA images around.

How you can help[[edit source]]

Just pick one of the above stories from your DVD collection, rewatch it, and take snapshots along the way. Then, upload the pics and replace the deleted images. Please don't use the same filename that was there before. DWIA filenames were logical for that website, but make no sense on ours. Choose a properly descriptive filename instead. Thanks!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:47: Thu 31 May 2012 

Question[[edit source]]

This may be a stupid question, but how do you take snapshots? I'm thinking you don't mean take a picture of your tv screen while watching the video, so just how is this done? Thanks! Shambala108 talk to me 18:29, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Not a stupid question at all. There are many ways to get a screenshot. You can push the PrntScrn button on your Windows based machine, or Shift-Command-3 on your OSX machine, and then crop the resulting image. Or you can use whatever command your playback software allows.
Personally, I think the easiest method is to use VLC as your primary playback software (available at http://www.videolan.org/index.html) and then follow these simple instructions. VLC is available on all platforms, it opens everything, and it has superior audio fidelity to any playback software I've ever used. If you've not been using VLC, you've been missing out. (That would be an advertisement, 'cept that VLC is free.)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 12:07: Sun 03 Jun 2012 
I have a feeling the instructions are outdated. I checked the hotkeys under preferences myself, and apparently the default is Shift-S, not Ctrl-Alt-S. -- Tybort (talk page) 16:39, July 8, 2012 (UTC)
I dunno, Tybort. I don't have a Windows machine to check on anymore, but it definitely used to be — and VLC themselves are saying in their FAQ that it still is — Ctrl-Alt-S. Certainly, as of version 2.0.2, the current Mac default is as it has been since version 0: Command-Alt-S. This suggests they're still using Ctrl on the Windows side. Maybe you've inadvertently changed your own defaults and forgot that you did it? The page at the VideoLAN wiki referred to above was written only in December, so if there have been changes, maybe they are super-recent. It seems weird, though, that VideoLAN would have made the version 2.0.2 Windows and Mac keys "asymmetrical", as it were.
In any case, users can double-check the hotkey by going to Preferences | Interface | Hotkeys on a Windows machine. Once there, check Advanced options and look for the keys next to Take video snapshot. (Mac users have a more straightforward path: just go to Preferences | Hotkeys and look for Take video snapshot.)
If you're investigating this issue further, please note that, in general, VLC uses the word snapshot, not screenshot.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 16:12: Mon 09 Jul 2012 
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