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I have recently been expanding the ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]'' article, splitting it into two separate articles which cover the two separate DVD exclusive scenes. I felt it was important for these scenes to have their own articles, as the the same has been done for both the [[Series 6]] prequels and the ''[[Night and the Doctor]]'' series of shorts. In some ways, the ''Meanwhile'' scenes are more important than these in the fact that they directly link between episodes. | I have recently been expanding the ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS (TV story)|Meanwhile in the TARDIS]]'' article, splitting it into two separate articles which cover the two separate DVD exclusive scenes. I felt it was important for these scenes to have their own articles, as the the same has been done for both the [[Series 6]] prequels and the ''[[Night and the Doctor]]'' series of shorts. In some ways, the ''Meanwhile'' scenes are more important than these in the fact that they directly link between episodes. | ||
I named the articles ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1]]'' and ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2]]'', but after discussion with [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]], realised that these are not official names. In fact, it is not known if the two scenes have any name which differentiates them at all. I used 1 and 2 as they were the most common Internet usage. | I named the articles ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1]]'' and ''[[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2]]'', but after discussion with [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]], realised that these are not official names. In fact, it is not known if the two scenes have any name which differentiates them at all. I used 1 and 2 as they were the most common Internet usage. | ||
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::My DVD menu calls both episodes '"Meanwhile in the TARDIS" additional scene'. There is no differentiation between the two, and no other information that I could find. (Also, it's a fact of life that if you lend a book or DVD, chances are slim you'll get it back.) [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:04, August 16, 2012 (UTC) | ::My DVD menu calls both episodes '"Meanwhile in the TARDIS" additional scene'. There is no differentiation between the two, and no other information that I could find. (Also, it's a fact of life that if you lend a book or DVD, chances are slim you'll get it back.) [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:04, August 16, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::Okay, thanks for confirming that. That being the case, the most logical course of action would seem to be to return to the articles to a single page called [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]], and have the arbitrary numbering system appear as section heads rather than titles. Any objections? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}15:44: Thu 16 Aug 2012 </span> | :::Okay, thanks for confirming that. That being the case, the most logical course of action would seem to be to return to the articles to a single page called [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS (TV story)|Meanwhile in the TARDIS]], and have the arbitrary numbering system appear as section heads rather than titles. Any objections? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}15:44: Thu 16 Aug 2012 </span> | ||
::::I just checked in the DWM Special Edition ''The Eleventh Doctor, Volume 2'', which has a 2-page spread on these episodes/scenes, and doesn't give them individual names. It does say that the script for both was titled "Doctor Who 1: 2|Entertain Shoot" [I'm sure we don't want to use that as an article title], and that the two parts were described as "Scene 1: A few minutes after the end of episode 1" and "Scene 2: Pick up from end of episode 5". We could probably use those scene descriptions (they're not titles) in a single [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS]] article. | ::::I just checked in the DWM Special Edition ''The Eleventh Doctor, Volume 2'', which has a 2-page spread on these episodes/scenes, and doesn't give them individual names. It does say that the script for both was titled "Doctor Who 1: 2|Entertain Shoot" [I'm sure we don't want to use that as an article title], and that the two parts were described as "Scene 1: A few minutes after the end of episode 1" and "Scene 2: Pick up from end of episode 5". We could probably use those scene descriptions (they're not titles) in a single [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS (TV story)|Meanwhile in the TARDIS]] article. | ||
::::Incidentally, I don't think it makes much sense to put the (TV story) suffix on this article, or on the [[Night and the Doctor]] articles, because they weren't broadcast on TV. I think that we should either let these articles live without suffixes (they don't need disambiguating, after all) or, if they must have a suffix, perhaps (DVD story) would be better. (Except they were simultaneously released on Blu-Ray, weren't they? And (home video story) sounds daft.) —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, August 17, 2012 (UTC) | ::::Incidentally, I don't think it makes much sense to put the (TV story) suffix on this article, or on the [[Night and the Doctor]] articles, because they weren't broadcast on TV. I think that we should either let these articles live without suffixes (they don't need disambiguating, after all) or, if they must have a suffix, perhaps (DVD story) would be better. (Except they were simultaneously released on Blu-Ray, weren't they? And (home video story) sounds daft.) —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, August 17, 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Forums → Archive index → Panopticon archives → Meanwhile in the TARDIS: Differentiating the scenes
I have recently been expanding the Meanwhile in the TARDIS article, splitting it into two separate articles which cover the two separate DVD exclusive scenes. I felt it was important for these scenes to have their own articles, as the the same has been done for both the Series 6 prequels and the Night and the Doctor series of shorts. In some ways, the Meanwhile scenes are more important than these in the fact that they directly link between episodes.
I named the articles Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1 and Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2, but after discussion with CzechOut, realised that these are not official names. In fact, it is not known if the two scenes have any name which differentiates them at all. I used 1 and 2 as they were the most common Internet usage.
This discussion will cover two issues. The first issue must be resolved, regardless of the result of the second issue.
- What are the official names of these two short scenes? If there are no official names, how will we differentiate between these two scenes in prose and timelines on the wiki.
- Should these scenes have separate articles, or should they be merged back into the original article, albeit expanded significantly?
If possible, could someone look at both the DVD/Blu-ray menus featuring these scenes, and the booklet that came with certain versions of "The Complete Fifth Series" release. As well as providing detail on how the scenes were differentiated in the boxset, these may also give us extra detail on the writer/producer/director, and a synopsis which can be used on the articles. ǝsʞpɐןǝ (talk page) 09:37, 24/06/2012
- Shamelessly bumping this thread up in the hopes that we'll get someone to look at their boxed sets. (That they haven't loaned to someone who refuses to return them in a timely fashion. Grrrr.)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 17:29: Tue 14 Aug 2012
- My DVD menu calls both episodes '"Meanwhile in the TARDIS" additional scene'. There is no differentiation between the two, and no other information that I could find. (Also, it's a fact of life that if you lend a book or DVD, chances are slim you'll get it back.) Shambala108 ☎ 06:04, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for confirming that. That being the case, the most logical course of action would seem to be to return to the articles to a single page called Meanwhile in the TARDIS, and have the arbitrary numbering system appear as section heads rather than titles. Any objections?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:44: Thu 16 Aug 2012
- Okay, thanks for confirming that. That being the case, the most logical course of action would seem to be to return to the articles to a single page called Meanwhile in the TARDIS, and have the arbitrary numbering system appear as section heads rather than titles. Any objections?
- My DVD menu calls both episodes '"Meanwhile in the TARDIS" additional scene'. There is no differentiation between the two, and no other information that I could find. (Also, it's a fact of life that if you lend a book or DVD, chances are slim you'll get it back.) Shambala108 ☎ 06:04, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
- I just checked in the DWM Special Edition The Eleventh Doctor, Volume 2, which has a 2-page spread on these episodes/scenes, and doesn't give them individual names. It does say that the script for both was titled "Doctor Who 1: 2|Entertain Shoot" [I'm sure we don't want to use that as an article title], and that the two parts were described as "Scene 1: A few minutes after the end of episode 1" and "Scene 2: Pick up from end of episode 5". We could probably use those scene descriptions (they're not titles) in a single Meanwhile in the TARDIS article.
- Incidentally, I don't think it makes much sense to put the (TV story) suffix on this article, or on the Night and the Doctor articles, because they weren't broadcast on TV. I think that we should either let these articles live without suffixes (they don't need disambiguating, after all) or, if they must have a suffix, perhaps (DVD story) would be better. (Except they were simultaneously released on Blu-Ray, weren't they? And (home video story) sounds daft.) —Josiah Rowe ☎ 02:20, August 17, 2012 (UTC)