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why is this not canon | |||
the statement at the top of the page that the fact the story was not produced semes wrong as it was made and released as story boreds with arther darvill{{Unsigned-anon|2.26.206.85}} | |||
:: | : Check the archived discussion linked '''on this page''' or [[Forum:P.S.]]. Also, it is not up to individual users to decide what counts and what doesn't, so when an admin undoes your edit, don't change it back. We have a reason for not including it. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:49, March 10, 2016 (UTC) | ||
::having read the thread I'm still no clear on why this is not valid the argument that it was planned as live action but chenged to animation and is there for not valid is strange as nothing that gets published or brocast is as it was originally planned and the story still was made just in a different format if that means it's not valid then that means no version of shada is valid and non of the big finish lost story's can be valid ever also on the bit about shada the Tom baker links make sense in univers given that the curator exist {{Unsigned-anon|2.26.206.85}} | |||
== Invalid? == | |||
= | The invalid tag for this page is not present. Is this a mistake? --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:26, February 20, 2017 (UTC) | ||
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There is a box at the top of the page suggestions a change from webcast to DVD extra which if implemented whoud be a mistake as this my have started as a DVD extra but it was released as a webcast like how shada started as a tV story but was finished as a homvid [[Special:Contributions/178.100.229.176|178.100.229.176]]<sup>[[User talk:178.100.229.176#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:59, May 30, 2017 (UTC) | |||
: Our current policy is that this special was neither ''finished'' or ''released''. Thus the article should be about the original unfinished product. Also the situation you brought up makes no sense, as ''Shada'' is indeed dabbed by its original intended format -- TV story. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 12:02, May 30, 2017 (UTC) | |||
::ok I don't know why I got it in to my head that sharda had a hovid dab a better comparison whoud be the lost storys from big finish we all are caneld tv storys that where released on audio like how PS homevid was cancelled but PS webcast was finished and released infact this is listed on the list of unproduced stories as a adeption of the DVD version [[Special:Contributions/2.30.191.42|2.30.191.42]]<sup>[[User talk:2.30.191.42#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:33, June 1, 2017 (UTC) | |||
::: But we, by our own policies, do not agree that P.S. the webcast managed to be a different piece of media than P.S. the Homevideo. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 13:57, June 1, 2017 (UTC) | |||
::::but its still a picece of media and it was released officially as a webcast by the BBC wiche is why I've never agreed with the dicigion to give this page a notvalid tag wiche is not on the page at the moment [[Special:Contributions/2.30.191.42|2.30.191.42]]<sup>[[User talk:2.30.191.42#top|talk to me]]</sup> 09:38, June 2, 2017 (UTC) | |||
::::: Look again. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 09:54, June 2, 2017 (UTC) | |||
:::::: It should also be noted that the determination of a story to be invalid does not require the agreement of every single editor. The validity of this story has been debated at least twice. First, in the [[Forum:P.S.|old forums]] and, more recently, [[Thread:120836|here]]. The IP 2.30.191.42 did not participate in either of these discussions. By [[T:BOUND]], whether an editor participated in a discussion or not and whether they have already edited on the site at the time of the discussion, they are still bound by the current policy. Please do not remove the "invalid" tag that is currently on the page. Thank you. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:45, June 2, 2017 (UTC) | |||
The rename tag on this page says: "If we're going to write this as if the story is a cancelled DVD extra instead of a released webcast, we need to DAB accordingly. Thus, i suggest: ''P.S.'' (homevid)". However, the page says it was released as a webcast and has not yet been released on any kind of home video. I don't have a problem with a rename in general, if someone has an idea for it, but I don't think homevid applies here. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:13, October 30, 2017 (UTC) | |||
But this is in the doctor who universe{{unsigned|Mr bootel}} | |||
: According to this wiki's validity policies, as laid out in [[Tardis:Valid sources]], based on two community discussions [[Forum:P.S.]] and [[Thread:120836]], this story is considered invalid. The primary reason is that its production was never completed. Accordingly, no material from this story can be used on in-universe pages. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:32, February 24, 2019 (UTC) | |||
I've removed the rename tag for now. No one has defended it in a year and a half since my last post. At [[Forum:P.S.]], [[User:CzechOut]] quotes Chibnall's statement that it is '''not''' a DVD extra. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:06, May 21, 2019 (UTC) | |||
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Canon[[edit source]]
why is this not canon the statement at the top of the page that the fact the story was not produced semes wrong as it was made and released as story boreds with arther darvill– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2.26.206.85 (talk).
- Check the archived discussion linked on this page or Forum:P.S.. Also, it is not up to individual users to decide what counts and what doesn't, so when an admin undoes your edit, don't change it back. We have a reason for not including it. Shambala108 ☎ 19:49, March 10, 2016 (UTC)
- having read the thread I'm still no clear on why this is not valid the argument that it was planned as live action but chenged to animation and is there for not valid is strange as nothing that gets published or brocast is as it was originally planned and the story still was made just in a different format if that means it's not valid then that means no version of shada is valid and non of the big finish lost story's can be valid ever also on the bit about shada the Tom baker links make sense in univers given that the curator exist – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2.26.206.85 (talk).
Invalid?[[edit source]]
The invalid tag for this page is not present. Is this a mistake? --Borisashton ☎ 15:26, February 20, 2017 (UTC)
Name[[edit source]]
There is a box at the top of the page suggestions a change from webcast to DVD extra which if implemented whoud be a mistake as this my have started as a DVD extra but it was released as a webcast like how shada started as a tV story but was finished as a homvid 178.100.229.176talk to me 08:59, May 30, 2017 (UTC)
- Our current policy is that this special was neither finished or released. Thus the article should be about the original unfinished product. Also the situation you brought up makes no sense, as Shada is indeed dabbed by its original intended format -- TV story. OS25 (Talk) 12:02, May 30, 2017 (UTC)
- ok I don't know why I got it in to my head that sharda had a hovid dab a better comparison whoud be the lost storys from big finish we all are caneld tv storys that where released on audio like how PS homevid was cancelled but PS webcast was finished and released infact this is listed on the list of unproduced stories as a adeption of the DVD version 2.30.191.42talk to me 13:33, June 1, 2017 (UTC)
- But we, by our own policies, do not agree that P.S. the webcast managed to be a different piece of media than P.S. the Homevideo. OS25 (Talk) 13:57, June 1, 2017 (UTC)
- but its still a picece of media and it was released officially as a webcast by the BBC wiche is why I've never agreed with the dicigion to give this page a notvalid tag wiche is not on the page at the moment 2.30.191.42talk to me 09:38, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
- Look again. OS25 (Talk) 09:54, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
- It should also be noted that the determination of a story to be invalid does not require the agreement of every single editor. The validity of this story has been debated at least twice. First, in the old forums and, more recently, here. The IP 2.30.191.42 did not participate in either of these discussions. By T:BOUND, whether an editor participated in a discussion or not and whether they have already edited on the site at the time of the discussion, they are still bound by the current policy. Please do not remove the "invalid" tag that is currently on the page. Thank you. Amorkuz ☎ 12:45, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
- Look again. OS25 (Talk) 09:54, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
- but its still a picece of media and it was released officially as a webcast by the BBC wiche is why I've never agreed with the dicigion to give this page a notvalid tag wiche is not on the page at the moment 2.30.191.42talk to me 09:38, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
- But we, by our own policies, do not agree that P.S. the webcast managed to be a different piece of media than P.S. the Homevideo. OS25 (Talk) 13:57, June 1, 2017 (UTC)
The rename tag on this page says: "If we're going to write this as if the story is a cancelled DVD extra instead of a released webcast, we need to DAB accordingly. Thus, i suggest: P.S. (homevid)". However, the page says it was released as a webcast and has not yet been released on any kind of home video. I don't have a problem with a rename in general, if someone has an idea for it, but I don't think homevid applies here. Shambala108 ☎ 01:13, October 30, 2017 (UTC)
But this is in the doctor who universe– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr bootel (talk • contribs) .
- According to this wiki's validity policies, as laid out in Tardis:Valid sources, based on two community discussions Forum:P.S. and Thread:120836, this story is considered invalid. The primary reason is that its production was never completed. Accordingly, no material from this story can be used on in-universe pages. Amorkuz ☎ 22:32, February 24, 2019 (UTC)
I've removed the rename tag for now. No one has defended it in a year and a half since my last post. At Forum:P.S., User:CzechOut quotes Chibnall's statement that it is not a DVD extra. Shambala108 ☎ 01:06, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
