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*Separate sections for ''[[Doctor Who]]'' and ''[[Torchwood]]'' (only one of the latter so far). | *Separate sections for ''[[Doctor Who]]'' and ''[[Torchwood (TV series)|Torchwood]]'' (only one of the latter so far). | ||
*Separate sections for the [[Mondasian Cybermen]] and [[Cybus | *Separate sections for the [[Mondasian Cybermen]] and [[Cyberman (Pete's World)|Cybermen created by Cybus Industries]]. | ||
:Maybe, There should definiatly be separate section (though inside the same box) between the Cybus and Mondasian, but I don't think it should be broken by which TV story series it's from as it's all part of the same chronology. It also should have 'Cybermen TV stories' (unless it's going to include all the NA/MA/PDA/BFA...etc stories). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | :Maybe, There should definiatly be separate section (though inside the same box) between the Cybus and Mondasian, but I don't think it should be broken by which TV story series it's from as it's all part of the same chronology. It also should have 'Cybermen TV stories' (unless it's going to include all the NA/MA/PDA/BFA...etc stories). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
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As has been discussed with the season templates i think we need something a bit more than just two shades of Grey. [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 11:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC) | As has been discussed with the season templates i think we need something a bit more than just two shades of Grey. [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 11:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
The list is uneditable but there is a story missing: Junkyard Demon. Someone needs to add this. | |||
== Story organisation == | |||
Several things I want to point out: | |||
* For some reason, amongst the TV appearances, ''Once, Upon Time'' is listed as ''Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story'', a name which has never been used to refer to this story. Why ''Once, Upon Time'' isn't simply used instead is baffling to me. | |||
* I think that ''A Good Man Goes to War'' should also be added, as the Cybermen's appearance, although very small, is still particularly relevant to its plot, as Rory and the Eleventh Doctor confront the Cybermen to ascertain the location of Demons' Run, the main setting of the story. | |||
* Although they only appear very briefly in it, should we include ''The Vanquishers''? The Cybermen are an important part of the plot along with the Daleks. | |||
* Although I still need to read it, ''Loving the Alien'' contains lots of partially cyberconverted lifeforms (mainly humans and gorillas) and therefore should be placed between ''Vrs'' and ''Going Off the Rails''. | |||
* ''Status Update'' should be renamed to ''Cybermen: Status Update''. | |||
* Some of the audio stories are out of order, being listed after numerous stories when they actually released earlier: | |||
** ''Silver Lining'' should be after ''The Harvest'', then ''The Crystal of Cantus'' (which should probably be formatted with its full name), then ''The Reaping'', ''The Gathering'', then ''The Blue Tooth'', then ''Human Resources''. | |||
** ''The Isos Network'' should be between ''Return to Telos'' and ''The Tyrants of Logic''. | |||
* ''Keepsake'' should probably be included between ''Kingdom of Silver'' and ''Legend of the Cybermen'' due to featuring a Cybrid that serves as a key part of the plot, even if he's only in one scene. | |||
* Similarly to ''Loving the Alien'', ''Warzone'' should also be included between ''Hour of the Cybermen'' and ''Conversion'' as it includes people who are technically partially converted Cybermen, just to a more limited degree. | |||
* ''Prologue: The Third Doctor'' should be included with the other ''Supremacy of the Cybermen'' prologues as it features a partially converted Master. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC) | |||
Sorry everyone, please just ignore this section. For some reason, I thought that only admins could edit templates like this. Clearly I was wrong, so I'll do most of these myself. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story == | |||
I'm not sure why ''Once, Upon Time'' is formatted as ''Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story''. I've tried to change this to ''Once, Upon Time'' before in the past, but it was changed back to ''Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story'' shortly afterwards, and although I decided to let it go for a long while, it's something I've still wondered about a lot, as I don't understand why it's necessary to clarify that the Cybermen's appearance is part of the story segments with Bel; from what I've seen, no other references to ''Once, Upon Time'' have been formatted in a similar way. Could someone please explain to me why? [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: ''Once, Upon Time'' gives Bel's scenes the umbrella title ''Bel's Story'', which is the only part of the episode that features the Cybermen, so it's best to have the umbrella title to distinguish where the Cyberman appear in the episode. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 02:09, 2 December 2023
Suggestions[[edit source]]
- Separate sections for Doctor Who and Torchwood (only one of the latter so far).
- Separate sections for the Mondasian Cybermen and Cybermen created by Cybus Industries.
- Maybe, There should definiatly be separate section (though inside the same box) between the Cybus and Mondasian, but I don't think it should be broken by which TV story series it's from as it's all part of the same chronology. It also should have 'Cybermen TV stories' (unless it's going to include all the NA/MA/PDA/BFA...etc stories). --Tangerineduel 15:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Colour[[edit source]]
As has been discussed with the season templates i think we need something a bit more than just two shades of Grey. Dark Lord Xander 11:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
The list is uneditable but there is a story missing: Junkyard Demon. Someone needs to add this.
Story organisation[[edit source]]
Several things I want to point out:
- For some reason, amongst the TV appearances, Once, Upon Time is listed as Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story, a name which has never been used to refer to this story. Why Once, Upon Time isn't simply used instead is baffling to me.
- I think that A Good Man Goes to War should also be added, as the Cybermen's appearance, although very small, is still particularly relevant to its plot, as Rory and the Eleventh Doctor confront the Cybermen to ascertain the location of Demons' Run, the main setting of the story.
- Although they only appear very briefly in it, should we include The Vanquishers? The Cybermen are an important part of the plot along with the Daleks.
- Although I still need to read it, Loving the Alien contains lots of partially cyberconverted lifeforms (mainly humans and gorillas) and therefore should be placed between Vrs and Going Off the Rails.
- Status Update should be renamed to Cybermen: Status Update.
- Some of the audio stories are out of order, being listed after numerous stories when they actually released earlier:
- Silver Lining should be after The Harvest, then The Crystal of Cantus (which should probably be formatted with its full name), then The Reaping, The Gathering, then The Blue Tooth, then Human Resources.
- The Isos Network should be between Return to Telos and The Tyrants of Logic.
- Keepsake should probably be included between Kingdom of Silver and Legend of the Cybermen due to featuring a Cybrid that serves as a key part of the plot, even if he's only in one scene.
- Similarly to Loving the Alien, Warzone should also be included between Hour of the Cybermen and Conversion as it includes people who are technically partially converted Cybermen, just to a more limited degree.
- Prologue: The Third Doctor should be included with the other Supremacy of the Cybermen prologues as it features a partially converted Master. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 15:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Sorry everyone, please just ignore this section. For some reason, I thought that only admins could edit templates like this. Clearly I was wrong, so I'll do most of these myself. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 00:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story[[edit source]]
I'm not sure why Once, Upon Time is formatted as Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story. I've tried to change this to Once, Upon Time before in the past, but it was changed back to Flux: Once, Upon Time - Bel's Story shortly afterwards, and although I decided to let it go for a long while, it's something I've still wondered about a lot, as I don't understand why it's necessary to clarify that the Cybermen's appearance is part of the story segments with Bel; from what I've seen, no other references to Once, Upon Time have been formatted in a similar way. Could someone please explain to me why? Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 16:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Once, Upon Time gives Bel's scenes the umbrella title Bel's Story, which is the only part of the episode that features the Cybermen, so it's best to have the umbrella title to distinguish where the Cyberman appear in the episode. BananaClownMan ☎ 02:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)