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While it's debatable, I'm pretty sure this article should have the | While it's debatable, I'm pretty sure this article should have the [[:template:Notdwu]] stamp on it. It's somewhat similar to [[Untitled (Tonight's the Night)]] in that it blatantly breaks the fourth wall at the end and [[Jenna-Louise Coleman]] appears to be playing herself. [[User:Slughorn42|Slughorn42]] [[User talk:Slughorn42|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:09, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Jenna's appearance at the end of ''[[Asylum of the Daleks]]'' breaks the fourth wall as well. Also, since she doesn't have a speaking part, there's no indication that she's actually playing herself. Plus, Matt plays the part of Eleven in-character, referring to Dan Starkey as Strax. It reminds me of ''[[Music of the Spheres]]'' in which the fourth wall is also blatantly broken, yet that's still considered a valid source. [[Special:Contributions/71.80.219.129|71.80.219.129]]<sup>[[User talk:71.80.219.129#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:15, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | :Jenna's appearance at the end of ''[[Asylum of the Daleks]]'' breaks the fourth wall as well. Also, since she doesn't have a speaking part, there's no indication that she's actually playing herself. Plus, Matt plays the part of Eleven in-character, referring to Dan Starkey as Strax. It reminds me of ''[[Music of the Spheres]]'' in which the fourth wall is also blatantly broken, yet that's still considered a valid source. [[Special:Contributions/71.80.219.129|71.80.219.129]]<sup>[[User talk:71.80.219.129#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:15, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to when you say, "Jenna's appearance at the end of ''[[Asylum of the Daleks]]'' breaks the fourth wall as well." I was basing my statement that she plays herself on the way she's dressed. Anyway, the corpsing at the end by itself should place this in the non-DWU category. [[User:Slughorn42|Slughorn42]] [[User talk:Slughorn42|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:29, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | :I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to when you say, "Jenna's appearance at the end of ''[[Asylum of the Daleks]]'' breaks the fourth wall as well." I was basing my statement that she plays herself on the way she's dressed. Anyway, the corpsing at the end by itself should place this in the non-DWU category. [[User:Slughorn42|Slughorn42]] [[User talk:Slughorn42|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:29, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I meant that her wink in AotD is also a fourth wall breaking moment, but that doesn't make it non-canon, nor does the even more blatant fourth wall breaking in MotS when Ten addresses the Prom audiences. I don't see what her costuming has to do with her allegedly "playing herself" either. You're hardly able to tell what she's wearing besides some type of black something (shirt or dress) and part of a silver necklace. It could easily be Victorian or modern, which can be said for her Christmas Special character as well. [[Special:Contributions/71.80.219.129|71.80.219.129]]<sup>[[User talk:71.80.219.129#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:40, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry I don't remember a wink. But this discussion no longer matters because someone has already given it the non-DWU stamp.[[User:Slughorn42|Slughorn42]] [[User talk:Slughorn42|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | |||
This story is non-narritive. It has no story. The character's break the fourth wall by laughing, and you can hear the crew. The story is unarguably, undeniably, non-valid. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 22:31, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | |||
I've restarted this discussion at [[Thread:118323]]. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 22:39, December 21, 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Production date== | |||
I deleted an unsourced statement that claimed this was shot during production of ''[[The Name of the Doctor]]'', which is of course impossible as filming for that episode did not begin until early 2013. Do we know the exact production dates for this video? [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:04, February 24, 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Should be marked non-DWU== | |||
This is a gag video, not intended to be "canon" in anyway. Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman are out of character and out of costume, and of course everyone cracks up at the end. Why is this still treated as an actual minisode? This is more a Confidential/Doctor Who Extra outtake. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:56, January 31, 2016 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 06:56, 31 January 2016
While it's debatable, I'm pretty sure this article should have the template:Notdwu stamp on it. It's somewhat similar to Untitled (Tonight's the Night) in that it blatantly breaks the fourth wall at the end and Jenna-Louise Coleman appears to be playing herself. Slughorn42 ☎ 21:09, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Jenna's appearance at the end of Asylum of the Daleks breaks the fourth wall as well. Also, since she doesn't have a speaking part, there's no indication that she's actually playing herself. Plus, Matt plays the part of Eleven in-character, referring to Dan Starkey as Strax. It reminds me of Music of the Spheres in which the fourth wall is also blatantly broken, yet that's still considered a valid source. 71.80.219.129talk to me 21:15, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to when you say, "Jenna's appearance at the end of Asylum of the Daleks breaks the fourth wall as well." I was basing my statement that she plays herself on the way she's dressed. Anyway, the corpsing at the end by itself should place this in the non-DWU category. Slughorn42 ☎ 21:29, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
- I meant that her wink in AotD is also a fourth wall breaking moment, but that doesn't make it non-canon, nor does the even more blatant fourth wall breaking in MotS when Ten addresses the Prom audiences. I don't see what her costuming has to do with her allegedly "playing herself" either. You're hardly able to tell what she's wearing besides some type of black something (shirt or dress) and part of a silver necklace. It could easily be Victorian or modern, which can be said for her Christmas Special character as well. 71.80.219.129talk to me 21:40, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry I don't remember a wink. But this discussion no longer matters because someone has already given it the non-DWU stamp.Slughorn42 ☎ 21:48, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
This story is non-narritive. It has no story. The character's break the fourth wall by laughing, and you can hear the crew. The story is unarguably, undeniably, non-valid. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 22:31, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
I've restarted this discussion at Thread:118323. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 22:39, December 21, 2012 (UTC)
Production date[[edit source]]
I deleted an unsourced statement that claimed this was shot during production of The Name of the Doctor, which is of course impossible as filming for that episode did not begin until early 2013. Do we know the exact production dates for this video? 68.146.70.124talk to me 17:04, February 24, 2014 (UTC)
Should be marked non-DWU[[edit source]]
This is a gag video, not intended to be "canon" in anyway. Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman are out of character and out of costume, and of course everyone cracks up at the end. Why is this still treated as an actual minisode? This is more a Confidential/Doctor Who Extra outtake. 68.146.52.234talk to me 06:56, January 31, 2016 (UTC)
