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| == Final warning to all Users about Doctor Who TV ==
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| This is a one and only warning regarding ''Doctor Who TV''.
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| It '''cannot''' be used as a source. The only ''Doctor Who'' related sites that can be used are Gallifrey Base (accessible via the news feed on the front page) and the official website.
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| All casting, filming, rumours must come from media (newspapers etc) and news sites (digital spy) - where everything has a base source. ''Doctor Who TV'' uses sources that are 'fans', with nothing to back them up. If they do have a source, please link via the source and not ''Doctor Who TV''. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 22:19, August 5, 2012 (UTC)
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| :Well someone keeps uploading it as a source and creating rumors. Whoever is doing this needs a ip ban... I'm starting to lose my calm... -114.76.1.117
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| ::The episode 7 thing that got reverted twice recently did have a source, they just neglected to link to it. I've now added said source (a website of a crew member which has a CV on it - a first party source). They don't always report bullshit. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|17:32,10/8/2012}}
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| ::: If I may ask is there an actual black and white list of banned sources? At one point I believe I put the John Fay report (which I would have cited) which uses Fay's CV as a source; it should be noted that CVs have been used by other sites such as the Doctor Who News Page. Not everyone is intimately familiar with how ever single website is operated. Maybe MM (an admin?) could be so kind as to create a list of sources that should not be used. Maybe some sort of sticky can be created when one clicks the Edit button. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:42, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Clara Oswin ==
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| Is the Mirror really a suitable source? Tabloids print wrong info all the time. The Sun's TV Magazine included the same name in an article, but in light of [[Asylum of the Daleks]], in which Jenna-Louise plays somebody called Oswin Oswald, it seems that Clara Oswin was incorrect. Either they're different characters, or she's not called Clara at all. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|19:40,9/1/2012}}
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| :And sure enough, turned out to be Clara Oswald. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|01:52,12/26/2012}}
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| ::Clara *Oswin* Oswald, as seen on her tombstone.[[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:57, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Grammatic tenses ==
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| Just wondered, since the series has now started airing, should the relevant parts of the article be converted to past tense, e.g. "Series 7 ''began'' airing on the 1st of September 2012" rather than "Series 7 ''will begin'' airing..."; "Toby Whithouse ''wrote'' episode 3" rather than "Whithouse ''will write''..."? Or do we wait for the last episode to air before converting the article? I'd be happy to do the editing; just wanted to check before rushing in there. [[User:The Colclough|The Colclough]] [[User talk:The Colclough|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:48, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Arcs / Recurring Themes ==
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| So, given the season-arc nature of the series, and the prevalent themes that crop up over the course of a season, I wonder if perhaps the revived series' season pages should describe the relevant arc and/or theme(s) present in the series. The ones that come to mind I've listed below:
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| *Series 1: "Bad Wolf"
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| *Series 2: Torchwood
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| *Series 3: Vote Harold Saxon
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| *Series 4: DoctorDonna, Disappearing Bees, There's Something On Your Back
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| *2009 Specials: He Will Knock Four Times
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| *Series 5: Cracks in Time
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| *Series 6: Silence Will Fall, Death of the Doctor
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| *Series 7: Christmas, Flickering Lights
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| Obviously, not all of these necessarily warrant mention, but some are deliberate, relevant season arcs (Bad Wolf, Vote Harold Saxon, DoctorDonna) that have more to do with the season as a whole than they do individual episodes.
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| As it is, almost all of the season pages are unique (read: inconsistent) and could use some reorganization, so I thought it might be good to bring up the possibility of a Themes section as we approach a three-month hiatus and can afford to do some spring cleaning. Thoughts? '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090>•</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF>·</font>]]''' 16:40, September 24, 2012 (UTC)
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| =="Introduction of Clara Oswin" needs to be reworded==
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| As I understand the policies here, we don't announce character names, etc until the episode airs. The statement "Introduction of Clara Oswin" next to the Christmas special therefore is improper, plus may be outdated since presumably it was added before Asylum of the Daleks raised a question mark as to whether ''that'' might be the true introduction to the character (putting aside controversy regarding the name, remembering that the BBC has yet to officially confirm the character's name going forward from the Christmas Special). It should be removed and perhaps replaced with "Jenna-Louise Coleman joins as a series regular." With "Introduction of "Jenna-Louise Coleman" added to Asylum's entry - note I didn't say mention the character's name as we do not know yet whether she'll play a new character or Oswin Oswald. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:40, October 1, 2012 (UTC)
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| :This is exactly what I said above - Clara Oswin is wrong. Surely if anything, it would be Clara Oswald (an ancestor of Oswin, perhaps? We can only speculate so far). Fact is, her surname is unknown and shouldn't be on the page. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|00:58,10/7/2012}}
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| ::Then why can't somebody change it? I tried, but was reverted by minimitch without a word of explanation. [[User:Graske of the mandragora|Graske of the mandragora]] [[User talk:Graske of the mandragora|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:40, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
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| :::That was an accident, I've not had time to change it/state why. I saw you had changed it to say 'Jenna Louise Coleman' and for some reason I thought 'we know it's Clara' and it was not until I reverted I realised my mistake. I am sorry. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 09:31, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::No problem. I realise you're busy, and it's not as if I was inconvenienced at all. [[User:Graske of the mandragora|Graske of the mandragora]] [[User talk:Graske of the mandragora|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:29, October 15, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::Due to wibbly-wobbly timey-whimey things, I believe they can be considered the same person, especially with the kitchen comment on the TARDIS (avoiding a "spoiler" for those who haven't watched it yet), and the headstone (Clara Oswin Oswald). [[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:02, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
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| == 6 or N/A? ==
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| Quite possibly the most silly, semantic question to ask, but... should we be listing the midseason Christmas special as Episode 6, or "N/A"? (And likewise, the spring premiere as 7 or 6, etc.) '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090>•</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF>·</font>]]''' 14:57, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::since the christmas special introduces a new regular companion, and therefore is obviously part of the main narrative flow of the series, i personally think it makes more sense to call it '6', and the spring premiere '7'. [[User:The Colclough|The Colclough]] [[User talk:The Colclough|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:48, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
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| :Christmas specials are not part of the overall series; that's why they're called ''specials''. Duh. There's no reason to consider the Christmas ''special'' episode 6, rather then just ''N/A'' or ''X''. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 19:27, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
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| ==Great Detective==
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| Just wondering why ''The Great Detective'' has been removed from the list of Mini-Episodes? When introducing it, Matt Smith himself called it a ''Minisode'' (apparently that's what they're called now)? [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:02, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
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| : All episodes are in order of air date. It has just been moved to after 'Autumn half' and before' Christmas special'. It is still under the heading 'mini-episodes'. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 23:12, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
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| :: Yeah, just seen that, and I understand having them in order of broadcast, but have to admit that all the different sections does seem to make it a bit crowded and untidy. Well, thats my opinion anyway. [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:17, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Length of the Christmas Special in "Overview" ==
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| Now that we know how long the Christmas Special is, "although it is believed that the Christmas Special will be sixty minutes" can be changed to "although the Christmas Special is 60 minutes.
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| [[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:54, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Rumours ==
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| I don't really see why "rumours" need sources. In fact, the Mirriam Webster definition of a rumour is: "talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source." I think we should either be a bit looser on the rules of what can go into Rumours, or change/remove the section. If we decide to change the section, that means that it might contain similar information but will only include unreleased information that has been confirmed, which is a bit boring. I vote the rumours section actually becomes a rumours section and we include whatever the people thinkas a whole, no matter how ridiculous the rumours are. People '''do''' get a spoiler alert message for this page, right? So this should be the one page where we can put spoilers and rumours of all kinds (but only in the spoiler section of course - sort of like how we can put out-of-universe information in the Behind the Scenes section). Is there any way we can cover the rumours section so that people have to do some sort of action to view it? Like maybe making the text white and telling them to highlight it to view it. That way people who don't like spoilers don't have to see them. [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:30, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| :Spoilers are considered (for the purpose of this wiki) things that have not yet occurred. There are no spoiler alerts so far as I am aware of because this is a fact-based wiki rather than a speculative wiki. There are plenty of sites for rumours and spoilers as this wiki defines them. Keep factual data here. Most rumours also lack proper sources, and as such, are unfit for inclusion in this wiki. [[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:38, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::So why is there a spoiler section? [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:41, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| :::I have no clue. Here is a warning about spoilers on this wiki - "Spoilers aren't cool. We have a strict definition of "spoiler" that you may find a bit unusual. Basically, a spoiler, to us, is anything that comes from a story which has not been released yet. So, even if you've got some info from a BBC press release or official trailer, it basically can't be referenced here. In other words, you gotta wait until the episode has finished its premiere broadcast to start editing about its contents. Please check the spoiler policy for more details." [[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:45, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::And that is just why I'm addressing this issue. We have a strict no-spoiler policy but yet we have a section dedicated to rumours and spoilers. Either the rumour section should be deleted (you will be deleted) or we make it the only place where spoilers are allowed. As I understand it, it does seem that, according to TARDIS policy, there shouldn't be a rumours section at all. But we should wait for someone else's opinion. Preferably an administrator. Or at least someone who's been editing for over 2 weeks. [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:55, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::: I agree the issue needs to be discussed, as it contradicts itself on this wiki.[[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:57, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::: This covers everything, and it appears these things are allowed on Series pages. http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:Spoiler_policy [[User:Thor214|Thor214]] [[User talk:Thor214|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:05, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::Oh, also, this entire page is littered with spoilers by TARDIS's definition. You may noticed that the first time you open this page, it warns you that there may be spoilers and you get to choose whether to continue or not. That ''does'' seem like a good indicator that spoilers are allowed on this page. [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:55, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
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| ==Special is Episode 6, not N/A== | | ==14 episodes, not 13== |
| Although past Christmas specials have not been officially part of any season, Doctor Who Magazine, and a number of Moffat interviews, have stated that this year Series 7 has 14 episodes, and that the Christmas special is considered episode 6. The change should be made. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:35, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
| | Despite Moffat stating in DWM and other BBC sources stating this, the article continues to treat The Snowmen as a standalone, whereas Moffat, etc have said it was considered a "regular" episode. I'm aware there are rumors that Snowmen might not be in included in the Part 2 DVD/Blu-ray release, but that's beside the point. The episode count should be adjusted accordingly. (And in an earlier thread, now archived, I also questioned whether the 2011 Christmas special, which we now know is not being released or circulated in any way with Series 7 shouldn't be moved to the Series 6 article instead... [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:10, May 20, 2013 (UTC) |
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| ==Phantom of the Hex== | | ==The Night of the Doctor== |
| There have been some conflicting information about Phantom of the Hex being the first Doctor Who episode for Series 7 Part 2. However, this story has been written by Neil Cross, and the writers list has been clarified as Steven Moffat writing the first episode, maybe the writer on the BBC America website got it wrong. Maybe he meant the first to be filmed? [[User:Cyruptsaram|Cyruptsaram]] [[User talk:Cyruptsaram|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:25, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Valid sources? ==
| | Should ''[[The Night of the Doctor]]'' be considered part of this run or Series 8? [[User:Silent Hunter UK|Silent Hunter UK]] [[User talk:Silent Hunter UK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:28, November 14, 2013 (UTC) |
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| Are hypable.com and themusic.com valid sources for series 7 information? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:17, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
| | == No "doctor2" in this series == |
| : No. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 09:51, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Grant returning?==
| | For those who think that the [[War Doctor]] should be added to the infobox in the "doctor2" field, here is an explanation why it must not be done: |
| [http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/02/first-look-supernatural-saturday-premieres-march-30/ This BBC America page] strongly suggests that Richard E Grant is returning for 7B. Possible casting note item? [[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.140|70.64.34.140]]<sup>[[User talk:70.64.34.140#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:02, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
| | {{quote|The doctor2 variable is only for Doctors who actually had a solo adventure in [the] year. Thus, there is no doctor2 in season 10, season 20, or season 22, but there is one in season 21 and season 4. The doctor2 should be considered the one that has the minority of episodes in the season. So in season 4, doctor2 is the First Doctor.|Documentation for the Infobox Series template|Template:Infobox Series}} |
| : I'd say no, as it's propably referring to the Christmas special. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 16:58, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
| | Please do not use this field of the infobox. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:15, July 1, 2018 (UTC) |
| :: However,this is Doctor Who, so you never know. I would imagine if Grant is going to return (maybe for a flashback or some timey-wimey scenario) we'll know within the next few weeks. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:04, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Let the debate begin! ==
| | There is another minisode, based during Series 7B. |
| So, have at 'er - do we include One Born Every Minute (the comedy minisode crossover with Call the Midwife that aired last night on Comic Relief), or not? Unlike the Space and Time minisodes of 2011, there's no real way to see OBEM as canon, even though it features Smith. It falls closer to Curse of Fatal Death territory... but it was a filmed production. Hmm... [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 14:04, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
| | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EONO8pUP-9s |
| : It's not even that really. It's more like ''[[Merry Christmas Doctor Who]]'', really. It breaks the fourth wall, makes fun of the shows it's showing, and Doctor Who barely appears. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 14:23, March 16, 2013 (UTC)
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