Talk:Sonic screwdriver/Archive 2

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mark vii not destroyed

Currently the article reads "This version of the screwdriver was destroyed when a sky sharkbit it in half and swallowed the top half. (DW: A Christmas Carol)"

but we can see the Doctor waving the sonic around in The Impossible Astronaut using it in the same function as seen in The Beast Below, so can we edit that sentence clarify that the sonic was eventually repaired off screen?

207.216.38.197 21:33, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Just because it looks the same doesn't mean it isn't a new screwdriver. I'm sure the MK V and VI have no discernable differences. 94.2.179.230 15:24, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well, unless or until something official comes from BBC, I think it's safe to say the the Doctor either repaired his old SS while off-screen, or he got a SS off-screen, this new SS being exactly the same as the previous one. Either way, he still has the Mark VII. --Bold Clone 16:08, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

But in "The Big Bang" the Doctor tells Rory to point and press and then later in "Let's Kill Hitler" it has a psychic interface and it became point and think, so it might actually be a new screwdriver.70.113.55.111 02:45, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

"Point and press" is probably the same as "point and think", its just a more detailed way. That episode explained why the doctor hadnt mentioned settings and how rory could just point it without having put in a specific setting first. Rory might have reliased that he only had to think of a function if he could just point it and he was thinking of opening the pandorica when pointing it and so the psychic interface worked!--Coop3 ^{talk to me} 15:51, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

In the Christmas Carol episode, the Doctor mentions that it regenerates, which also explains why its still there soaking in the digestive juices so many years later (from when Kazran was a young boy to when he's an old man). Banaticus ^{talk to me} 06:46, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

New 'driver

Looks like the Doctor's screwdriver after the end of The Almost People is a new one after all:

• DaveyK: @steven_moffat Dr gave sonic to ganger then had another in the TARDIS, yet had to put it in Amy's pocket in pandoricum due to only having 1?
• steven_moffat: @DaveyK He's got spares in the TARDIS. Didn't have a TARDIS in Pandorica.

Thoughts? d ●●● 15:27, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

I have 2 theroies -

He rebuild one of the same mark or repaird his sonic in the X-mas carol, in the almost people/flesh doctor's ganger also had a sonic (1 it melted, 2 he pulled the other out of his pocketto scan amy, 3 the ganger copy clothes to and sonic in pocket(I bet he also had a ganger psychic paper too)), and in good man goes to war I didnt see the dr and rory with 2, just rory borrowing the one - my solution if the dr only has one mark VII

or maybe the tadris can make more than one mark VII and he has a cup full of them both theries work so idk which is more true

Mark X

Was there actually an episode or spinoff that said that the different versions of the sonic screwdriver were referred to as mark whatever. Apart from the fact that that seems to be a completely random term that was made up, we don't even know if the numbers are accurate. For all we know, the First Doctor could have had hundreds of different sonic screwdrivers before the first one we saw with the Second Doctor. Also, do we need to list everything that the sonic screwdriver has ever done. For example, the Eleventh Doctor's screwdriver is said to be capable of scanning Starship UK's engine room, scanning Father Octavian's computer, determining the nature of the cracks, scanning life forms, scanning piles of dust for traces of children, detecting where lights are, scanning for heat signatures, scanning an infection, scanning stonehenge, scanning the Pandorica, to confirm the isomorphic nature of a control panel, scanning the flesh, and detecting if a person is fatally wounded. Why don't we just say that one of its functions is scanning. The way it is now is very redundant, and if you were to ask the Doctor what one of the functions of his screwdriver is, he wouldn't say "oh, I can use it to scan Father Octavian's computer." The same goes for other repetitive uses like opening doors and hatches, or unlocking things.Gowron8472 17:31, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should keep them, though if it gets too large, we could put the different versions into seperate articles. --MrThermomanPreacher 18:01, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we should change it to models say 1st model, 4th model, ? model or even I model, IV model, and ? model, but Mark sounds really good, and I agree with your 2nd half, it lists things to specific, but scanning piles of dust for traces of children is so funny. We really need to limit that.

Well, I don't really care that much about the whole mark thing, something really needs to be done about the obnoxiously long list of uses. We can shorten the Eleventh Doctor's screwdriver's list to basically just, scanning, interfacing with computers/technology, and opening doors/hatches. Then, if it is used for another purpose we can list that, but most of its uses fall itnto one of those three categories.Gowron8472 21:57, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

I think we should have a list like you mentioned (scanning, opening doors, etc...) for all the marks, but have a redirect link to another page (ie. "Full List of Uses of the Mark VIII Sonic Screwdriver" or something to that extent) which has the full list of every specific usage of the sonic (ie. the list we have now)

Pictures for Mark III and ?

I think we should add pictures to theses too -

http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images-2011/Tom%20Baker%20w%20sonic%202.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1302309687006

and

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-48f617a0473f3-Doctor+Who+(TV)+(2005).jpeg

or

http://www.omg-squee.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/river-song.jpg

We can't add these pictures to the article because they do not come from a Doctor Who story. every picture on this article needs to come from an in-universe source. --Revan\Talk 13:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think the first one's okay... --OS24 22:38, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Readings

When the scans somthing with his screwdriver and then looks at it, what actaully is he reading? Has it been mentioned.

No, I don't think so, but Rory has mentioned that the SS works via a psychic link. The Doctor may simply know the SS's readings through that mental interface. However, that doesn't necessarily explain why he always looks at the SS...--Bold Clone 01:27, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Eleven's sonic is certainly psychic, but I don't think that Ten's was and he also used it for scanning. When the Eleventh lends his screwddriver to others, he tells them to point and think, but when the Ninth and Tenth leant people tehir screwdrivers, they would always tell people what setting to use. Wasn't there a line in School Reunion where Sarah was having trouble using the Tenth Doctor's sonic screwdriver, saying that it always used to work in her day. Maybe the Third and Fourth Doctor's screwdrivers had psychic interfaces, but the Tenth Doctor's didn't for some reason.Icecreamdif 20:58, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

I had seen somewhere- (concept art I suspect) that the Eleventh Doctor's screwdriver had little displays which showed when it was 'extended', and hidden when compact, explaining why after scanning something, he always extends the device and stares at a point just above the leather grip.

The canonicity is vague, but with the Character options 'Personalise your sonic screwdriver', the two alternate 'drivers do indeed have displays in that position with galifreyan script on them. Serapheagle

Sigh...

Let's agree to disagree here. Unless there is some very obvious differences between the sonic screwdrivers eaten by the shark, taken by the Shansheeth and blown up in the acid factory, YES - the Eleventh Doctor had doubles of it. (173.167.179.77 23:50, November 15, 2011 (UTC))

This is becoming a headache

Dispite being vastly different versions, the sonic screwdrivers have the same settings and purposes despite the Mark 7 (the green glow one) have a psychic link to the Eleventh Doctor for its settings. So "Known Uses" list everything that A sonic screwdriver can do.(173.167.179.77 23:50, November 15, 2011 (UTC))

Eighth Doctors new 'driver?

What's the policy regarding the new Sonic Screwdriver designed for Paul McGann as part of his 'new look' for the Eighth Doctor by WETA?

http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/10/23/paul-mcgann-reveals-new-costume-for-eighth-incarnation-of-do.html

It's officially being used in the new Eighth Doctor box set, though we don't know how long he's had it before then.

http://www.bigfinish.com/img/news/doctorwho-darkeyes-slipcase_image_large.jpg

We can't put anything about this screwdriver on the page until the story has been released as it would offend our Tardis:Spoiler policy. Thanks. --Revan\Talk 07:04, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Gallery of Sonic Screwdrivers

Could we perhaps make a gallery of the screwdrivers at different angles. With this, maybe we can observe the continuity of each model used as a prop in the show.

How the sonic works

The article claims that the workings of the sonic are never explained but the name implies some sort of connection with sound. However, in Fury From the Deep, The Doctor clearly states that the sonic works using sound waves. Am I missing something? Shouldn't the article mention this? 72.199.146.227^{talk to me} 10:58, January 19, 2012 (UTC)

I think the doctor gets a new screwdriver for series 2

I think that the doctor replaced his screwdriver after he regenerated as the ninth doctors screwdriver emitted blue waves in several epiosdes like the sonic blaster did and it didnt do this during series 2. So i think that this was a new mark and so it is mark 6 with the one in smith and jones being mark 7 and the one with the 11th doctor being at least a mark 8.

Was rivers screwdriver made just for her?

Does anyone think that Rivers screwdriver in silence in the library/forest of the dead was made just for her by the 11th doctor or did he use it in his future? I think it is from his future as river has some familiarity with it. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coop3 (talk • contribs) .

May need to rewatch Silence and Forest to be sure, but I think it's supposed to be a future version of the Doctor's that he handed over. -- Tybort (talk page) 14:46, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

It's supposed to be, yes, but, considering that Mark VII was destroyed in The Eleventh Hour, there are two plausible options: 1) The Doctor made it specifically for her; and 2) The Doctor retrieved the same sonic that he'd left in the Library and then gave that to her, only to be left later on in its timeline back in the Library and then retrieved and given to her.... A bit timey-wimey but it's not far-stretched. -- User:SmallerOnTheOutside (talk page) 22:25, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, yes. Both are speculation. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:45, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Could someone please remove the part about my comment being unsigned as i dont want my talk and contributions pages being that accesible cause who would want to know? i dont usually sign my comments becuase i cant be bothered so why is that a problem? --Coop3 ^{talk to me} 13:29, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

All comments or posts on Talk pages or in the forum must be signed. If you don't sign them someone will add an unsigned template and add your name in. It is so we know who made the comment or added a discussion point. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:50, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Funny how scripts w/ 'servo' in TOS and 'sonic screwdriver' in DW were both written in 66 when Our Man Flint and his doodads aired.

Sonic Lipstick

I'm just watching The Sarah Jane Adventures S01E04 (Eye of the Gorgon, Part 2) and Sarah Jane Smith tried to open the door of an old abbey with her sonic lipstick. The lipstick failed (since it's a wooden door, I'd assume). However she tried a second time and her facial expression suggests she didn't know this wasn't going to work. In an earlier episode she mentioned that her lipstick couldn't open doors that are deadlock sealed, so it supposedly has the same limitations as the Mark VI.
(Also I can’t help but notice that she seems to figure such things out as she goes along. That would suggest she had a sonic-worthy encounter with a deadlock seal before, but not with something made out of wood. Interesting.) --87.153.156.218^{talk to me} 05:26, December 9, 2012 (UTC)