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I've moved the uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced (not IMDB). [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:02, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
I've moved the uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced (not IMDB). [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:02, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
* [[The Master|The Master (aged 8)]] - [[William Hughes]] (uncredited)
* [[Tanya (The Sound of Drums)|Tanya]] - [[Emily Moore]] (uncredited)
* [[Tanya]] - [[Emily Moore]] (uncredited)
* [[Toclafane|Sphere Voice]] - [[Johnnie Lyne-Pirkis]] (uncredited)
* [[Toclafane|Sphere Voice]] - [[Johnnie Lyne-Pirkis]] (uncredited)


== Episode numbers ==
This is the 12th episode of season 3, not the 13th.
This is the 12th episode of season 3, not the 13th.
''Preceding comment unsigned.''
: It's the 13th if you count ''[[The Runaway Bride (TV story)]]''--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:22, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
== The description of the Master's reaction to Gallifrey's fate ==
In the plot summary, the Master's reaction to the learning of Gallifrey's fate is described thusly: "the Master is horrified to learn that Gallifrey is lost, and mercilessly berates the Doctor when he learns how the Time War ended and the Doctor's part in it."
I didn't get this impression at all. The Master seems morbidly fascinated, almost envious that the Doctor got to be "like God." Here's the dialogue, taken from http://www.chakoteya.net/doctorwho/29-12.htm:
MASTER: Back home. Where is it, Doctor?
DOCTOR: Gone.
MASTER: How can Gallifrey be gone?
DOCTOR: It burnt.
MASTER: And the Time Lords?
DOCTOR: Dead. And the Daleks, more or less. What happened to you?
MASTER: The Time Lords only resurrected me because they knew I'd be the perfect warrior for a Time War. I was there when the Dalek Emperor took control of the Cruciform. I saw it. I ran. I ran so far. Made myself human so they would never find me, because I was so scared.
DOCTOR: I know.
MASTER: All of them? But not you, which must mean...
DOCTOR: I was the only one who could end it. And I tried. I did. I tried everything.
MASTER: What did it feel like, though? Two almighty civilisations burning. Oh, tell me, how did that feel?
DOCTOR: Stop it!
MASTER: You must have been like God.
DOCTOR: I've been alone ever since. But not anymore. Don't you see? All we've got is each other.
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Am I the only one who thinks the description in the summary does not represent the Master's reaction accurately?{{Unsigned|Sodascouts}}

Latest revision as of 14:37, 5 January 2024

Did someone clear the plot page? i swear i read what happened in the episode here. The image is missing as well. The evil dudeKorak 14:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Pretty sure the plot space has always been empty (had a quick check through the history, it doesn't appear to have ever been there)...the image is there, try refreshing the page. --Tangerineduel 14:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

References[[edit source]]

See The Tenth Planet for the Reference section format. 66.31.44.71 14:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Which is slowly being over hauled so it isn't just a list but actually has context within the page. Reference and Continuity are two separate things. References is the in-universe referencing within a story, continuity referes to the stories and the continuity referenced within the story. --Tangerineduel 14:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Maybe it should also be mentioned that the drumming the Master hear (and everyone drums) are the starting and underlying drums from the DW theme, which has been the same since the series started.

See Also[[edit source]]

I understand the others, but why are The War Games and The Three Doctors listed here? Americanwhofan 06:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps something to do with the Time Lords Bigshowbower 06:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I looked it up, and War Games was the first story to use the name Time Lords.

Americanwhofan 08:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

crack[[edit source]]

anyone else think that this is the first (but unintentional) appearance of the cracks? Darkraider09 20:52, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Random Reference[[edit source]]

The President makes a remark about UNIT protocols "adopted in 1968." I'm quite certain this a reference to the 1968 serial The Invasion (TV story) - since it was the first UNIT story broadcast in 1968

Uncredited cast[[edit source]]

I've moved the uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced (not IMDB). Shambala108 00:02, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Episode numbers[[edit source]]

This is the 12th episode of season 3, not the 13th.

Preceding comment unsigned.

It's the 13th if you count The Runaway Bride (TV story)--ComicBookGoddess 03:22, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

The description of the Master's reaction to Gallifrey's fate[[edit source]]

In the plot summary, the Master's reaction to the learning of Gallifrey's fate is described thusly: "the Master is horrified to learn that Gallifrey is lost, and mercilessly berates the Doctor when he learns how the Time War ended and the Doctor's part in it." I didn't get this impression at all. The Master seems morbidly fascinated, almost envious that the Doctor got to be "like God." Here's the dialogue, taken from http://www.chakoteya.net/doctorwho/29-12.htm:

MASTER: Back home. Where is it, Doctor?

DOCTOR: Gone.

MASTER: How can Gallifrey be gone?

DOCTOR: It burnt.

MASTER: And the Time Lords?

DOCTOR: Dead. And the Daleks, more or less. What happened to you?

MASTER: The Time Lords only resurrected me because they knew I'd be the perfect warrior for a Time War. I was there when the Dalek Emperor took control of the Cruciform. I saw it. I ran. I ran so far. Made myself human so they would never find me, because I was so scared.

DOCTOR: I know.

MASTER: All of them? But not you, which must mean...

DOCTOR: I was the only one who could end it. And I tried. I did. I tried everything.

MASTER: What did it feel like, though? Two almighty civilisations burning. Oh, tell me, how did that feel?

DOCTOR: Stop it!

MASTER: You must have been like God.

DOCTOR: I've been alone ever since. But not anymore. Don't you see? All we've got is each other.


Am I the only one who thinks the description in the summary does not represent the Master's reaction accurately?The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sodascouts (talk • contribs) .