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| Is this when the Doctor tells River Song his name? The only time he could. (Silence in the Library)
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| [[User:Invictus152|Invictus152]] <sup>[[User talk:Invictus152|talk to me]]</sup> 07:44, October 6, 2011 (UTC) | | Until the last episode, we knew this place as "fields of Trenzalore", as reported in the prophecy that is not properly quoted in the page yet. |
| | We should add this piece of information, but: how? Do the fields stand for the graveyard? --[[User:HarveyWallbanger|HarveyWallbanger]] [[User talk:HarveyWallbanger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:52, May 19, 2013 (UTC) |
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| I think he actually might have told her in The Wedding of River Song. He said that he did, and I know that the Doctor lies but since in Forest of the Dead he said there was only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name, it makes sense that that one reason would be if he married her. Since he did in the episode, it seems reasonable to assume that he would have told her his name.
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| [[User:Mandalore74|Mandalore74]] <sup>[[User talk:Mandalore74|talk to me]]</sup> 22:08, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Silence MUST fall. == | | == From Gallifrey to Trenzalore == |
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| The Doctor said "look into my eye" when he 'married' River Song next to the transmitter before he went to his 'death'. He didn't tell River his name at that point, and I for one don't think that was a 'proper' wedding.
| | Is it a alternitive timeline or just the future something's were never explained like the why was he called valeyard where was Christmas and the tardis was no where near the eleventh when he died the skirmish not war no daleks or cybermen bodys COuld the doctor die at Trenzalore Question be asked and wasnt it a fixed point that doctor would die not regenrate{{Unsigned-anon|82.25.229.247}} |
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| This article I think is wrong, because it says that The Silence (the religous order) fear the question's answer because it means they will fall. What would be more correct, is that The Silence fear the answer to the question and are determined that silence (quietness) MUST fall when it is asked.
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| I've read somewhere that Moffat reckons he's got it all figured out, and that he's going to somehow tie together all the random stuff into the one big story arc. That remains to be seen, as it's one incredible task - given that a lot of plot feels like Moffat has made it up as he went along.
| | There is no 'original timeline' and 'new timeline'. The Doctor will die on Trenzalore. Period. Nobody ever said that the Siege of Trenzalore was the battle where he'd die. All that was said was that he'll die there. And, seeing as Clara jumped into his timestream and there are fractures of her that have met the Twelfth Doctor, and that the Curator indicated that the Doctor might re-visit old faces in his final years... yeah, the Siege was simply not the battle that ended the Doctor's life. [[User:Meganerd18|Meganerd18]] [[User talk:Meganerd18|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:44, February 12, 2016 (UTC) |
| | | It was the war after the siege. That's what would have killed the Doctor, but the Time Lords changed that. And Clara said she saw 13 faces of the Doctor and technically up to the 11th Doctor, he had 13 faces. And it was probably the original timeline until they went and Clara being the impossible girl is a paradox. |
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| [[User:Add1989|Add1989]] <sup>[[User talk:Add1989|talk to me]]</sup> 18:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
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| Trenzalore was a place that, according to Dorium Maldovar, would be where the First Question in the Universe would be answered truthfully. The Doctor would arrive there at some point in his travels, at the fall of the Eleventh. The religious order known as the Silence was determined to ensure that the Doctor never reached Trenzalore. (DW: The Wedding of River Song) <ref>{{cite web|last=Smith|first=JerryDean|title=Trenzaolre|url=http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Trenzalore|work=tardis index file|publisher=wikia|accessdate=11/24/2011}}</ref> | |
| ==History==
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| Let's regress for a moment back to the [[Men in Black]](MIB). According to [[John Keel]], the MIB often state that they are representatives of the
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| "Nation of the Third Eye."
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| Based on some of the info already researched, it is
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| apparent that [[Sirius]] has been in contact with humanity for a long time.
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| According to [[George Hunt Williamson]] (one of the early contactees)
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| in his book "Other Tongues, Other Flesh,"<ref>{{cite web|last=Smith|first=JerryDean|title=Other Tongues--Other Flesh|url=http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/otof/index.htm|work=scared text|publisher=George Hunt Williamson|accessdate=11/24/2011}}</ref> the earth allies of | |
| [[Sirius]], i.e., the secret societies, use the [[Eye of Horus]] as an
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| insignia. This symbol has also been seen on the MIB. Secret
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| societies believe that there is a [[Great White Lodge]] on earth. They
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| call it Shamballa -- and consider it to be the spiritual center of
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| the world. Now, theosophists such as [[Alice Bailey]] say that the
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| [[Great White Lodge]] is on [[Sirius]]. If the All-Seeing-Eye is a symbol | |
| of [[Sirius]]' earth-allies and the MIB wear that symbol, and if
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| Shamballa represents the [[Great White Lodge]] on earth -- then the
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| MIB are emissaries of Shamballa. [[Sirius]] and Shamballa are '''two sides of the same coin'''. This is verified in the book "The
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| Undiscovered Country,"<ref>{{cite web|last=Smith|first=JerryDean|title=The undiscovered country: Adventures into other dimensions|url=http://www.amazon.com/undiscovered-country-Adventures-other-dimensions/dp/085435073X|work=scared text|publisher=Stephen Jenkins|accessdate=11/24/2011}}</ref> by [[Stephen Jenkins]]. Jenkins was told by
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| [[Buddhist]] priests that Shamballa was located in the constellation
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| of [[Orion]].
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| The entrance to Shamballa on earth is usually placed in the
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| trans-Himalayan region. Some assert it is in the heart of the [[Gobi]]
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| Desert (where there have been allegations of crashed disks and
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| bases). According to the explorer [[Nicholas Roerich]], there are
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| caves in the [[Himalayas]] foothills that have subterranean passages.
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| In one of the these passages, there is a stone door that has never
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| been opened, because the time for its opening has not yet arrived.
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| In 1930, Doreal founded the Brotherhood of the White Temple. He
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| says that the entrance to Shamballa is far underground. he goes on
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| to say that space bends around Shamballa, and that there is a warp
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| which leads into another universe.
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| == "The Fall of the Eleventh" ==
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| Am i the only one thinking this doesn't mean the Doctor will fall? according to what i hear some scenes will be in Victorian Scotland (Wikipedia: The Name of the Doctor) with the whisper men so trenzalore could be on earth with EARTH TIME. The fall of the eleventh could mean at 11 o'clock. Also there are new creatures in this episode called Whispermen which is intresting.
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Until the last episode, we knew this place as "fields of Trenzalore", as reported in the prophecy that is not properly quoted in the page yet.
We should add this piece of information, but: how? Do the fields stand for the graveyard? --HarveyWallbanger ☎ 09:52, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
There is only one timeline in this Verse.
From Gallifrey to Trenzalore[[edit source]]
Is it a alternitive timeline or just the future something's were never explained like the why was he called valeyard where was Christmas and the tardis was no where near the eleventh when he died the skirmish not war no daleks or cybermen bodys COuld the doctor die at Trenzalore Question be asked and wasnt it a fixed point that doctor would die not regenrate– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.25.229.247 (talk).
There is no 'original timeline' and 'new timeline'. The Doctor will die on Trenzalore. Period. Nobody ever said that the Siege of Trenzalore was the battle where he'd die. All that was said was that he'll die there. And, seeing as Clara jumped into his timestream and there are fractures of her that have met the Twelfth Doctor, and that the Curator indicated that the Doctor might re-visit old faces in his final years... yeah, the Siege was simply not the battle that ended the Doctor's life. Meganerd18 ☎ 22:44, February 12, 2016 (UTC)
It was the war after the siege. That's what would have killed the Doctor, but the Time Lords changed that. And Clara said she saw 13 faces of the Doctor and technically up to the 11th Doctor, he had 13 faces. And it was probably the original timeline until they went and Clara being the impossible girl is a paradox.
