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| Thanks very much for filling in the plot summary for the first episode of ''[[The Crusade]]''. However, there was a technical fault to your editing. According to [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=The_Crusade&action=historysubmit&diff=698831&oldid=679860 this] report from the [[help:page history|page history]] at ''[[The Crusade]]'', you inserted a lot of raw HTML into [[The Crusade#The Lion (1)]]. Please do not do this. Thanks :)
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| :Ahh, so there ''was'' a pesky li'l intervening edit. Thanks for pointing that out! Helped me uncover the source of a number of similar edits without having to laboriously check back through every edit history. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}00:30: Tue 01 Nov 2011 </span>
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| {{Please see|Can we disable visual editor please?}} <br> {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}22:44: Tue 20 Dec 2011 </span>
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| {{please see|Reference books - what do we cover?}} --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)
| | Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns. |
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| Can I make a request. One actor pages instead of putting '''DW''' can you write the show out in full, i.e
| | I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages]. |
| :X actor played person in the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' story ''name of story''. | |
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| Thanks.[[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 02:02, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
| | I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters. |
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| == Colony in Space == | | Thank you for your time. |
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| | [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| I'm not seeing anything like you're describing. And there's nothing alarming in the page history. Please clear your cache, reload that page, and tell me if you're ''still'' experiencing problems with the page. Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}04:54: Fri 02 Mar 2012 </span>
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| == Vanddalism and edit button==
| | Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
| Your vandal has been dealt with, hopefully. He/She was using a number of different IP addresses, so hopefully I've implemented a range block that will effectively bar him/her.
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| I'm a little more concerned about the report you're giving about your edit button. Could you please describe the circumstances under which you're unable to use it?
| | == Re:Request for help == |
| *What browser and version is giving you issues?
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| *Is it only on user pages, or ''every'' page?
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| *Is the drop down menu not working or is it the whole button? That is, are you only barred from looking at history and move, or does pressing the edit button do nothing?
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| Yours is the first report I've heard of this little loss of functionality, so I'm very eager to nip it in the bud before lots of users start having issues.
| | I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples. |
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| (As a short term solution, I suggest you install the skin changing button and edit in Monobook on those occasions when you need access to buttons you can't get to in Wikia. See [[Forum:Monobook users: please install this code]] for instructions.)
| | I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past. |
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| {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}17:37: Sun 15 Apr 2012 </span>
| | I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless. |
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| ::Well, there's your problem. We don't support IE. Please install Safari, Firefox, or Chrome. Our of curiosity, though, what's the ''exact'' version number of IE that you're using? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}01:57: Mon 16 Apr 2012 </span>
| | I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious. |
| :::Also, please make sure that you have [[help:bypass your cache|cleared your cache]]. Work is ongoing with restyling the wiki, so you may not be looking at the most current version of the code. Even so, you are strongly urged to abandon IE for a Mozilla or webkit browser. As IE's position in the marketplace continues to dwindle — and it's currenly under 20% — we've felt increasingly confident in just abandoning support for it. It's simply more trouble than it's worth trying to maintain its peculiarities. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}02:16: Mon 16 Apr 2012 </span>
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| | I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards. |
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| Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it. --[[User:Cyruptsaram|Cyruptsaram]] <sup>[[User talk:Cyruptsaram|talk to me]]</sup> 06:41, July 15, 2012 (UTC)
| | We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| Yes sorry about that. My computer can be very faulty sometimes and I can get chucked out of the edit page, so sometimes it takes 5 times to write a sentence.
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| I think when I made an edit on one page and then took it away is because I made a mistake. I though a piece of information wasn't visible on the page, but it actually was.
| | Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
| --[[User:Cyruptsaram|Cyruptsaram]] [[User talk:Cyruptsaram|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:41, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
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| Is there a way of stopping it somehow? Have you done something to stop it before (as you'd probably believe, it's very frustrating, it takes 10 minutes to write a paragraph)? --[[User:Cyruptsaram|Cyruptsaram]] [[User talk:Cyruptsaram|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:00, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
| | == My "Who vs elsewhere" polls == |
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| Just saw several of your recent edits. What you've said in the edit summary is not actually true. I've made an edit to the [[Second Doctor]] article to illustrate this. There are three actor fields, see {{tl|Infobox Individual}} for more info. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:32, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
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| :Sorry, my mistake, read the edit summary too quickly. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:34, August 14, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Please use only, not appearances ==
| | Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh? |
| When creating an infobox on the page of a person who has only one appearance, please use the variable {{{only}}}, not {{{appearances}}}. Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}04:29: Fri 24 Aug 2012 </span>
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| | [[User:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
| Hey, please familiarise yourself with the subcategories [[:category:Documentaries|Documentaries]]. All documentaries should go into one of the more specific categories there. There's no way you could have known this, of course, but the reason [[:category:Doctor Who DVD documentaries]] was kept around was because this category was going to facilitate an editing track in the [[Game of Rassilon]]. Because of Wikia's protracted problems in trying fix the achievement badges, however, we've had to put all new tracks on hold. So this "mega" category is just sorta sittin' there doin' nothin' useful. Any category that has over about a hundred entries is little too big for a human to digest. So documentaries should be in more specific categories like [[:Category:Production spotlight documentaries|Production spotlight documentaries]], [[:Category:Writing spotlight documentaries|Writing spotlight documentaries]], [[:category:Real history spotlight documentaries|Real history spotlight documentaries]] and the like. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:29: Tue 04 Sep 2012</span>
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| :Nah, you're not causing trouble at all. You're just pointing out things we need to explain better. Good thing I'm rewriting all the policies and tutorials at the moment. :) There's a big new tutorial on categories coming soon. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:36: Tue 04 Sep 2012</span> | |
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| == Publication --> Anthology == | | == Merry Christmas And Happy New Year == |
| Hey, thanks for doing the switches, but if you're noticing a pattern, just let me know what the pattern is, and I can fire up the bot and do it in a flash. :) Also no need to type out that whole, long forum title in the summary. It's not really from a forum decision. It's actually just a part of the template instructions, directly stated at {{tlx|Infobox Story/doc/short story}}, so your edit summary doesn't have to be anything more than "upholding temp doc" or something equally brief. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:27: Sat 08 Sep 2012</span>
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| :Kudos for finding a job for the bot then. Feel free to go on to more fun work. Can you just give me a link or three for stories which are mistakenly using publication instead of anthology? It'll help me make the bot coding a little more foolproof. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:44: Sat 08 Sep 2012</span>
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| | Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
| Thanks for reporting this issue. I've passed it on to the people at [[w:c:vstf]], who will handle it from here. This will probably be resolved within 48 hours. In the meantime, please create your page offline so that it's ready for eventual uploading.
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| Alternately, I can suggest that you create it at a ''near'' title match that the spam filter ''will'' allow — maybe [[Talkin About Regeneration (documentary)]], and then we'll move it to the proper place once the phrase "Talking About" gets struck from the list. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:56: Mon 17 Sep 2012</span>
| | == RE: Sockpuppet == |
| :You can follow the case [[w:c:vstf:Report:Spam_filter_problems#Talking_About|by clicking here]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:59: Mon 17 Sep 2012</span>
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| ::This is all clear now, and has been for some time. Any time you want to write start the article at [[Talking About Regeneration (documentary)]], you may. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:26: Tue 02 Oct 2012</span>
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| | Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion! |
| Noticed your recent edit and got me thinking, would there be a way for us to incorporate something like [[Wikipedia:Template:lowercase title]] for pages like this? Like for example how [[Wikipedia:De Moivre's formula]] displays a lowercase D. [[User talk:Tycio|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tycio|c]] 04:35, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
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| :Eh well I think it would be cool if we could make the title reflect is as otherwise people may only look at the top or the first bolded word as a guide for whether or not to capitalize the definite article. [[User talk:Tycio|+]]Y[[Special:Contributions/Tycio|c]] 05:20, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
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| Thank you for correcting my "Shoulder slats" edit on [[New Dalek Paradigm]]. I clearly wasn't thinking. [[User:Graske of the mandragora|Graske of the mandragora]] [[User talk:Graske of the mandragora|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:35, September 26, 2012 (UTC) | | Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| I was trying to add new stuff here, but every time I try to make this wiki expand, I'm told not to do it. I'm Admin at 2 other wikis, and have bee told by many people that I'm a great editor. I'm sorry if u don't like my ways and since I can't edit at free will, I might have to leave, sorry. | | : I just wanted to mention that [[User:Spongebob456]] is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| I'm sorry, yesterday was a bad day for me. Can I still add new categories though? It would help with the expansion of this wiki :) | | :: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| | What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
| Yep, one is enough to stop it from showing up in the [[Special:LonelyPages]] and yes you can remove {{tlx|orphan}} when you fix up the links. Though if you can get more than one link to it that's better, but sometimes when I've been going through the LonleyPages I've only ever managed to get one link in.
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| Also I wanted to say great work throughout the wiki (and on the talk pages as well!). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 05:49, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
| | == Trying to locate a missing thread == |
| | Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section: |
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| == Well Done ==
| | ''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.'' |
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| Just wanted to drop by and saying well done of your work with the orphan pages. So, well done! You're doing a really good job, keep it up! [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 23:32, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
| | As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it. |
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| == Good work on the DVD documentaries but ... ===
| | Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 ) |
| ... I just wanted to check that you intended to come back and fill in the infoboxes you've deliberately left blank. It's really important that the infoboxes get filled out on documentaries, as these infoboxes contain a lot of [[T:SMW|SMW]] goodness. If they're filled out properly, we can easily generate lists of who might have produced/directed various documentaries, who was the main interviewer, what documentaries are on which DVDs and the like. Please make sure you go back and fill in all that information. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:40: Thu 15 Nov 2012</span>
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| My edits are mostly obsessive compulsive ones. I tidy up the layout of the pages by adding lines of spaces in between lines of different "codes". Sorry, can't help it.
| | Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead. |
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| -rreg29 | | Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| | :On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
| Yep, there's certainly a way to fix it :) Add {{tlx|delete|only source is non-narrative}}. Thanks for finding this one> If you find any others, just add this tag. My suspicion, now that you've found this one, is that if you looked at [[Special:WhatLinksHere/The Gallifrey Chronicles (illustrated guide)]], you'd probably find other articles that need to be deleted. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 06:37: Wed 19 Dec 2012</span>
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| | Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits. |
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| Hi, thanks for correcting my edits on the DWM pages. I thought they were a mistake being in italic and changed to bold text as on previous and future magazine pages the comic book story titles were in bold as well.
| | From what [[User:Bongolium500]] sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change. |
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| My apologies. I meant to add the link, but I messed up and copy pasted the wrong part. After I saw what appeared, I was about to undo it, but you beat me to it.
| | Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| Hi, could you help me with my mistakes? I was trying to earn badges with all my director pages. What am I doing wrong? [[User:Vulkanus13|Vulkanus13]]
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| | I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| | Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| :Hey, glad I could help you. Once you chance all the links to a page you can put a {{tlx|proposed deletion}} on the redirect page and state there's no links. That way admins are alerted to a redirect page needing deletion and we won't have an empty redirect page sitting there. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 06:05, December 27, 2012 (UTC)
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| ::I would only add here that this sort of thing is precisely why we have a bot. If there are fewer than 10 links to the old page name and you wanna waste a few minutes, sure go ahead a do a manual changeover of the links. Otherwise, just put a move request on my page, and I'll take care of the move for you. ([[user:Tybort|Tybort]] makes these requests all the time, so don't feel like you'd be placing a special burden on me.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 09:43: Tue 01 Jan 2013</span>
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| == Personal attack ==
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| You can if you want, if you are offended by it. However, it may also be worthwhile keeping it, to have proof of the personal attack if needs be. I have removed and kept personal attacks. The choice is down to you. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 01:32, December 28, 2012 (UTC)
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| == Name ==
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| After almost 125 responses (!), the discussion over the wiki's imminent name change appears to be nearing conclusion. You have 24 hours to register your objections at [[Thread:117468]]. If you don't, the name will change to '''Tardis Data Core''' tomorrow. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:01: Tue 08 Jan 2013</span>
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| == Shalin ==
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| Yeah, when Wikia, Inc. are having data center problems, and we start seeing the "I'm so sorry" message, unpredictable things happen. Happily [[Shalin]] was restored by deleting and then restoring it. I have successfully edited it twice, so I think it's good to go now. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:38: Fri 18 Jan 2013</span>
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| :Your other page is fine now. If you ever need help with this again, and I'm not around, then just tell [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]], or whichever [[admin]] strikes your fancy, to delete the page and then immediately restore it. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:59: Fri 18 Jan 2013</span>
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| ::Well I should point out that it doesn't ''always'' work. But certainly the first line of defence is for us to try to shake it out ourselves. If the delete-restore fails, then you have to get Wikia Staff involved. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:05: Fri 18 Jan 2013</span>
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| == Apologies for my inattention ==
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| I'm sorry that I missed the personal attacks you were being forced to endure at [[Talk:Tenth Doctor]]. Obviously you didn't need me to defend you, but it's still one of my jobs to prevent the joint from sliding into a shouting match. Sorry that it took me a day to notice what was going on there. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:28: Thu 24 Jan 2013</span>
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| == Supsension and Disbelief ==
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| Hey, my Czech senses tingled. Is the character in ''[[Suspension and Disbelief (short story)|Suspension and Disbelief]]'' supposed to be Dušan, rather than Dusan? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 02:50: Fri 25 Jan 2013</span>
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| :Cool :) Thanks for checking! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:20: Fri 25 Jan 2013</span>
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| ==Zaroff==
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| Looks good. You're probably in a better place than me to re-write the article, as it's a favourite of yours. It just needed to be more like an individual pages; an introduction, biography and information. The page at the moment just seemed to have the plot in there rather than information zeroed in his character. Do whatever edits you think does justice to the page. You can remove the cleanup tag without checking with me, I have full confidence in your edits. I added the tag as much as a reminder to myself as an alert to others. One thing, if you can work in his famous quote that'd probably be good, if not in the body of the article I'm sure it can be noted in the Behind the scenes section. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:28, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
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| :I'm not sure either. If you don't think the quote works don't put it in there. As I said, go ahead and post it to the article. It all looks good, but ''Menace'' isn't a story I've listened to a great many times, so I defer to your knowledge on this one. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:14, January 27, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Image overrun in iPad wikia full site display ==
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| From what I've seen of the problems with the pictures, it mostly happens when a picture is pushed down by other graphic elements in the page, usually the infobox and the table of contents. I've been having a lot of luck from just moving the pictures in the text so that the elements don't interfere with each other. It's usually not difficult, and it means you won't see the problem in any browsers. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:38, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Spoilers ==
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| Could you please be more specific with what you think offends spoiler policy at [[Big Finish Doctor Who audio stories]] and [[The Companion Chronicles]]? Just the names of future publications? If so, I suppose that is a kind of spoiler, and could see the rationale for the use of the {{tlx|spoiler}} tag. But these pages are "series pages", so the mere presence of names of future publications isn't a problem, really. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:58: Tue 19 Mar 2013</span>
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| :Like I said, I can see the rationale for the use of the {{tlx|spoiler}} tag so feel free to deploy it. But I'd be opposed to removing any of the content from the page, as it's consistent with what is typically allowed on a series page.
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| :I suppose I gave up a little bit on trying to control the flow of information about audio plays, since Big Finish recently admitted they did not have exact release dates. That makes the normal tight control we have over television stories impossible with audio stories.
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| :But I have no issue with your desire to put a spoiler tag on [[The Companion Chronicles]], until 1 July 2014, and indefinitely on the other article. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:10: Tue 19 Mar 2013</span>
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| == Admin ==
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| If nominated, would you accept the position of administrator? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:13: Tue 19 Mar 2013</span>
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| :Any thoughts on this? It's okay to say no, but this is a good time to nominate a new admin, due to the fact that more people tend to return to the wiki while DW is in season. More people here means that the likelihood of a lively discussion is greater. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 07:42: Thu 04 Apr 2013</span>
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| == Edit Summaries ==
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| Sorry, missed that one line when I read it.
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| Also, is there a search that actually '''works''' on the help files?--[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:47, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
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| Sorry, my phone's a ring (acting — there's the work of spell check) up lately. It crashed twice while writing this very message. Generally, anything in parentheses can be wholly disregarded. You can completely ignore it. However, if you're truly wondering, I was just commenting on the fact that I had to write it out four times until the spell check on my phone didn't "correct" infobox. I'm really not used to using my phone for editing...
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| Anyway, on topic, I know I technically ''shouldn't'' be including side notes in edit summaries, but I figured the brackets would warrant an ignore. Oh well...
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| --[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 06:02, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Personal attack? ==
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| I'm sorry if I somehow offended you, but I am positive that I did not call you ignorant. Or even imply it. In fact, the word 'ignorant' does not show up in the entire thread! I also know myself to be highly respective of others' opinions, so I'm entirely clueless as to where you thought I 'attacked' you. I mean, if I did so unintentionally and somehow still don't notice it, I apologise. But can you elaborate on how I "called you a name?" I'm truly curious. Thanks!<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 19:24, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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| :My computer just deleted my very thoughtful message. :'-(
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| :Anyway, I'll try to write it again: Now I understand. Sorry for the confusion — number one: I was actually referring to myself; number two: the only reason I wrote that part of the sentence in the second person was to generalise the statement, that it's always better to ask the community before implementing your own decision. I was simply explaining why I decided to carry out a vote, rather than just say that we're merging. Like I said, after the broadcast of ''Bells'', we'll start a new discussion, but we need to pick one or the other first. I can understand how you'd misread that. I'll edit the message to make that more clear.<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 19:42, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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| ::Just to clarify, I was saying that it would have been arrogant ''of me'' to just decide on my own that we're merging the articles, which is why I carried out the vote. I was willing to go either way; it was only crutial that ''one'' be chosen. Now that the community has decided to merge, in conjunction with wiki policy, only ''then'' can I say that we're merging, at least temporarily.<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 19:50, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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| :::<nowiki>:)</nowiki> Yes, even ''I've'' been called much worse in my short span here — I'm not the type to get offended, though. Anyway, I guess I'll just have to be even ''more'' careful with my wording in the future... --[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 23:28, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Admin nomination ==
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| Sorry that I didn't see your first acceptance of the nomination. Thank you very much for agreeing to accept greater responsibilities, pending confirmation. Your nomination is now live at [[Tardis:User rights nominations#Shambala108]], and will remain open for seven days.
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| It's a bit unclear how this will go. The last nomination we had failed due to an overwhelming lack of interest. Other nominations in the past have attracted a fair amount of positive and negative comment. I'm hoping, though, that since this nomination comes right in the middle of the season, more people will be attracted to it.
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| There's nothing really for you to "do" during the confirmation process except to wait to see what happens. If people ask you questions during the discussion, it's important that you answer them promptly. If people outright oppose you and give (reasonable) objections, it's equally important to address those concerns in the best way you see fit. This means that you have to keep checking back on your nomination page, because there's no way to give you an automatic alert.
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| Please don't start a new section on the nomination page as this will screw up the easy-to-use buttons that I've provided at [[Thread:126844]].
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| In anticipation of the successful conclusion of your nominations, you may want to start paying more attention to the help files that are located at [[:category:admin help]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:17: Thu 04 Apr 2013</span>
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| == Suggested reading/viewing ==
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| Though we've still got a few days before the nomination officially closes, it looks like it's going pretty well. So I wanted to take a few moments to point you in the direction of some things you might want to read as and when you get time over the next week.
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| *[[community:Admin Central:Guide to Achievements|A guide to the way the Game of Rassilon (generically called ''Achievements'' on the rest of wiki) works]]
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| *[[community:file:Wikia Webinars - Admin Tools & Tips|A video overview of what admin do]] by [[User:Sarah Manley|Sarah Manley]], one of the lead Wikia Staff members. ''41 minutes''.
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| *[[community:file:Managing your wiki - review of tools & special pages|A 21-minute video about some of the wiki management tools available to you]]. I ''think'' you already know all this stuff, but maybe you can just skim it with your finger on the "fast forward" button.
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| *[[community:file:Templates 101 Tips for editing & creating templates on Wikia|A 45-minute introduction to templates]]. Like I said in the nomination, the only area of your wiki activity that concerns me is your apparent lack of interest in the template [[namespace]]. So I'm thinking, perhaps wrongly, that you need to have them demystified. The thing is, a lot of our templates are admin-edit-only, so someone some day might come to you and ask you to correct an error, and you need to at least feel comfortable enough to make simple changes to templates.
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| *[[community:VSTF]], for an overview of what the Volunteer Spam Task Force is, and who are its members. It's good to know who the VSTF members are so that you don't get freaked out if you happen to notice them doing stuff in [[Special:Log]]. Also, it's good to know [[user:sulfur]], in particular, cause he kinda watches out for us, since he's a bureaucrat over at Memory Alpha. So if you happen to be here one night and I'm not here and the sun hasn't come up in Australia where [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] lives—and suddenly the place gets attacked—you can leave a message at [[user talk:sulfur]] or go to [[w:c:vstf]] or [[w:c:vstf:VSTF Wiki:IRC|the emergency IRC hotline]]. (Don't worry, though, we usually only have one really bad attack a year.)
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| *[[community:Blog:Wikia Technical Updates]], a page you'll want to bookmark. Sometimes, particularly on Wednesdays, the wiki suddenly "freaks out" because new code has been uploaded. When things go wacky, you'll want to go to his page and read the latest tech update to see what's going on. Of course, I usually do this and then post a message if anything particularly profound is going on, but I'm not always here right at the very moment things go crazy. So don't feel like you'd be stepping on my toes to investigate a tech issue and post an initial explanation of the issue back here.
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| Well, that's enough for now. But provided your nomination continues to go well, I do want you to ''try'' to attend the 26th April webinar on template creation. Just so that you get a bit more on how templates work. It says you need to register, but I usually just walk into them at the last minute. If you can't attend (and it's at 10zm PST/5pm UTC on 26 April), then please make sure you go to [[community:Webinars]] a day or so later to pick up the video and watch it. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:13: Sat 06 Apr 2013</span>
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| ==Admin nomination questions==
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| As CzechOut has mentioned it's a little unclear how this progresses. Mostly because in the past it's been a user requesting adminship rather than a nomination (although technically if you want to be an admin you nominate yourself, so it's never actually a request…except when it is, but it becomes a nomination).
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| I am usually the one to go through a user's contributions and work out their strengths and weaknesses. Which CzechOut has already done.
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| I am curious about one thing that CzechOut raised, your lack of edits in the File name space. It won't count against your nomination, as CzechOut has said there's other admins and other editors who are active in that namespace, but I am curious.
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| I also want to ask you is there anything you're curious about that falls outside of all the information CzechOut has given? Or even that falls within but isn't answered? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:21, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Policy pages ==
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| Hey, almost every policy page should have a link to a forum discussion precedent, although I tend to disguise it by [[pipe trick]] for naturalistic English. If you encounter policy pages that don't have a link to the precedent, it probably means that the policy matter is technical, and therefore arises out of necessity rather than discussion, or because there's an error in the policy page. If you think the latter, please either add the precedent policy, if you're aware of it, or let me know so I can track it down. One of the big goals I've had around here is to make the work of the forums '''obviously''' relevant by showing how they lead directly to existing policy. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:47: Thu 11 Apr 2013</span>
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| ==Welcome - Admin==
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| Welcome, you are now an admin here on the TARDIS Data Core. As I've said any questions about anything that CzechOut's detailed list doesn't cover, or anything actually feel free to ask me or any of the [[Tardis:Administrators|other admins]]. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 09:55, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Categorical ==
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| Nice catch! I couldn't even remember what I'd been trying to do there. :)[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:22, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Re: Redirects ==
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| Ah, my mistake. Sorry, it's more of an OCD thing for me... plus I'm at work and incredibly bored :) [[User:TARDIStraveler|TARDIStraveler]] [[User talk:TARDIStraveler|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:21, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Re: Categories ==
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| Understood. I caught on when I saw you had edited Kamelion in the Recent Activity bar and thought you were probably going to flag me down, so I stopped churning out more category edits. That's the most confusing element about categories. You have to keep going down the rabbit hole before you identify the right one, but when they all seem to umbrella over so many articles, it can be tricky for someone like me to double-check if they're accounted for.
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| Lately, I've been putting "Biologically-modified individuals" onto all pages about Time Lords who have regenerated. Then, I moved on to any individual who has had their body altered in some way, like the Cyber-Conversions or the Pyroviles turning them to stone. Thanks for the advice. I've been skating around several wikis but I've always had to rethink how each one works. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:43, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
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| :Thank you so much! :D --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:06, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
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| ::A category chapter is long overdue in the MOS, and it's now being prepared. The chapter is at [[T:CAT]], and more pages in that chapter will be added throughout the day. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:20: Tue 16 Apr 2013</span>
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| :::No worries. Like I said, I should have done it long ago, anyway. Was there any particular categorical situation you wanted to see addressed by the MOS? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:36: Tue 16 Apr 2013</span>
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| == Game of Rassilon ==
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| Do you have any thoughts on new [[Game of Rassilon]] tracks? Have you noticed any categories of pages that seem particularly ignored? You don't necessarily have to make the graphics associated with the GOR, but if you know of a good idea for a track or two, and can identify 8 phrases and pics that would work as badges, let me know! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:16: Thu 18 Apr 2013</span>
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| == Moving redirects ==
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| Ahh, yes. It'll break something all right. You need to make sure you move all the current links to Face-Painter to [[Face-Painter (short story)]]. Then and only then can you start to create links to Face-Painter ''the individual''. If you just delete the redirect without first moving all the links, you'll end up with a mess that will be harder-than-necessary to untangle.
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| This kinda move, by the way, is exactly what {{tlx|speedy rename}} is for. It's a completely uncontroversial move. So if you put {{tlx|speedy rename}} on the page, and then go to [[T:SPEEDY]], you'll see exactly how many links are left to be moved. Or you could just click here: [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Face-Painter]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:55: Wed 24 Apr 2013</span>
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| == Keep an eye on [[User:Nevadabell]] please ==
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| I see you reverted one of Nevadabell's edits, well you'll need to keep an eye on him. He's trouble. I blocked him on [[w:c:logos:|Logopedia]] (for blanking an administrative template, the block notice, which the page creator had forgotten to protect), and he posted an abusive thread at [http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nevadabell RangerWiki] pleading to be unblocked... which led to him getting blocked there too (not by me) for harassment. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|02:36,26/4/2013}}
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| == Ths, sts, and rds ==
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| Since you've been doing a tonne of editing on years pages, I figured I'd ask you about a recent [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/1890?diff=prev&oldid=1405822 edit of mine]. I edited the page to make it more readable, adding ths, sts, and rds, but before I went off and continued doing this I figured I'd ask if there was a reason that you hadn't done this when you edited the page before me. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:20, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
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| == museums and libraries ==
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| You mentioned that it's better to have paragraphs are frowned upon. When exactly are lists appropriate? I'm finding a lot of variation and it's a little confusing. For example [[Type 102]] has a "See Also" section that links to two other TARDIS types. But there are lots of TARDIS variants that aren't linked. Some of those pages have small See Also sections, some don't. This is more than a little confusing. Is it just people adding what they know or is there some method to this (seeming) madness? [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:49, April 26, 2013 (UTC)
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| == What rating is this wiki? ==
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| What rating is this wiki?
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| U, PG, 12, 15, 18?!?
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| [[User:Nevadabell|I love stamps and I'm 22.]] [[User talk:Nevadabell|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:15, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
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| == T:SPEEDY ==
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| Heh, great minds think alike. I'm literally in process now of moving things with the bot. When an entry reads "there are truly zero links", then any admin may move the page and finish the process by moving the page, almost always by suppressing the redirect.
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| Note that I don't ''have'' to be involved in this process, and I don't have a particular day scheduled to clean up the list — though when ''Doctor Who'' is in season I typically do an awful lot of housecleaning on the Friday before a new ep.
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| As the instructions at [[T:SPEEDY]] say, if the number of links is really minor, then anyone can go in and move the remaining links themselves. However, since I've started with this, why not give me about 15 minutes and I'll have all these links changed. Then you can make the page moves yourself and remove the {{tlx|speedy rename}} tags. Unless you don't want to.
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| Point is: I made this page to sort of emphasise that it's not just me responsible for page renames, because most speedy renames are actually pretty trivial in terms of the time they take to complete. Anytime you come here and see something that needs doing, feel free. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:42: Fri 03 May 2013</span>
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| ==Re: Distant Past==
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| Gotcha. I was misled by an improper use of the category tag in Series 7 that wasn't my own. I think it was on the episode ''[[Hide]]''. --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:17, May 5, 2013 (UTC)
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| == 6 April ==
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| Delete the page, get rid of the link at [[2013]], but keep the one at [[6 April]] — it's there for a reason. Czech'll open a discussion regarding the day pages probably this week.<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 16:09, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Many Thanks ==
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| I needed a second editor to smooth the rough bits of that article. Late-night inspiration makes it hard to skim over your mistakes. After about six or seven people amend your work, it becomes refined. This one wore me down, so it had to get a checkup from somebody else. Now I know I've done good. You've got the veteran experience on this wiki, and I definitely understand the reasoning for keeping articles at a neutral tone: strictly informative, not someone's view of things. And glad to see that read on categorization! It's been said already, but thanks! --[[User:Thunderush|Thunderush]] [[User talk:Thunderush|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:06, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Re: Vandal ==
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| Thank you. If I had known that reverting his vandalism would have caused this, I wouldn't have bothered. I just don't understand the mindset - are you so immature and so bored that a good use of your time is adding this unadulterated crap to a website which some of us actually work hard on?
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| I've deleted his comments on my talk page, and I'm done with these unintentional edit wars with him. If I see his edits again, I'm just going to alert an admin straight away. His go-to edit is always at the [[Controller (Bad Wolf)]] page, just FYI. [[User:TARDIStraveler|TARDIStraveler]] [[User talk:TARDIStraveler|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:45, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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| ==Zygon talk page==
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| However, the reason I responded to him to look it up was because the reason he couldn't see a connection to the DWU was that he didn't know what Zygons were. So if he looked up what a Zygon was, he could quickly see that it's an alien from ''[[Terror of the Zygons]]'' and would no longer be confused. I do admit that my tone was off, and I apologise for that. [[User:Cult_Of_Skaro|Cult Of Skaro Here.]]|[[User talk:Cult_Of_Skaro|Communicate here.]] 23:14, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
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| == 11th Doctor Companion template ==
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| Hey Shamabala! The [[Template:Companions_of_the_Eleventh_Doctor|Eleventh Doctor companions template]] still doesn't have Clara in the "Multi-episode" section. Could you add her (and possibly Strax and Jenny if they qualify) please? [[User:Memnarc|Memnarc]] [[User talk:Memnarc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:55, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
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| == talk pages ==
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| I know how talk pages work. But by the time I got the hypercube both SOTO had replied to Czechout's post on my talk page. I thought that having a conversation that involved three people on multiple talk pages could get confusing very quickly so I replied on my own talk page and left notifications for both czechout and soto explaining where I had replied and why. I assumed that if this was problematic for either of them that they would have told me. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:22, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
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| == Refinement ==
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| I see that you've edited since you attempted to leave me a message, so I assume it's working better for you. But I've just made a little change that should absolutely ensure that you won't trip the filter. Let me know if that works better. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:00: Wed 15 May 2013</span>
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| == Classic Who ==
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| Thanks, Shambala! Much (most, really) of my marathon will be first time for me, and I am enjoying the Hartnell era so far. I'm starting to get used to '60s directing. I've actually been surprised at how well represented things are with season 1 — many times, I wanted to create tiny FTRW articles, only to find they're already there. Like [[pomegranate]] gets one tiny line, and someone already created it!
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| Anyway, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, especially when I didn't even ask them to you. :D --[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 04:22, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
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| == GOR ideas ==
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| I haven't ignored your 7 May suggestions. I think they're sound, and the one I think we should go with first is the Benny one. But I don't know nearly enough about Benny to make up fun li'l punny award names. We need 8 names. I'm thinking the following broad notions:
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| *something about archaeology
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| *something about having students
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| *something about drinking
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| *something about sex with Eight
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| *something about the impermanence of marriage
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| *something about the joy of big weddings
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| *something about the extreme length of time she was a companion
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| *something about Ice Warriors
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| And that's eight, but I'm not sure they're all particularly sound. Can you maybe help me come up with some more solid notions for the award names? Or if you, too, aren't as Benny-knowledgeable as you might be, could you ask [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]]? Thanks {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 06:08: Sat 18 May 2013</span>
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| :Give me a week or so and I'll come up with some ideas.
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| :The Game of Rassilon isn't something I've been really engaged in so I'll need to re-familiarise myself with the basics and then dream up some tracks for it. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:57, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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| ::Your suggestion on planets was taken up by [[user:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]] and the track is completed but on hold, pending the extensive bot work necessary. Thanks for a great idea! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:09: Wed 22 May 2013</span>
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| ==Doctor's lists of appearances==
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| Could you unprotect all the Doctor's lists of appearances? I'd like to add The Name of the Doctor to them. [[User:Cult_Of_Skaro|Cult Of Skaro Here.]]|[[User talk:Cult_Of_Skaro|Communicate here.]] 21:01, May 18, 2013 (UTC)
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| :Hey, bot's at work unprotecting things, but LOA are lower on the list than other things. Currently, the bot is doing templates, which are, overall, more important than LOAs. It'll all be done soon, though, so don't waste your time manually unprotecting anything. See [[Thread:131151]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:35: Sat 18 May 2013</span>
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| == My reply to your comment ==
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| Regarding your comment on my User page, I think my "solution" to the name problem was kind of dismissed by Czech, ignored by people who just skipped it because it was a long post and didn't read it, and then parts of it were reiterated (like about using people's title if that is what they are called).
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| I also wrote "Unfortunately, this is frequently a problem created by the writers who often don't provide a last name for female characters." This couldn't be made more clearer, I think.
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| And yet, it seems like some in the discussion think I'm blaming this wiki's users for only using female's first names when it more often happens that, except for main characters, the writers don't give female characters last names. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:52, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
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| : Shambala108, I do appreciate you taking note of this incident and following up on it with me. But considering the snide, condescending remarks I've received (under this username and when I was a lowly IP address), this wouldn't rank in the Top 5 unpleasant interactions I have had over the past month on this wiki. I think it is a consequence on having a small pool of highly devoted editors rather than having a larger number of "occasional" editors (the other wiki) who might be a little more detached.
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| : As a viewer of just the new TV series, I have made statements, asked questions or posed observations that those who know more of the canon than I will find, at best, implausible, and at worst, just plain wrong. And given the intimacy of posting online comments, they don't seem to have any hesitation in pointing out all of my errors, often in a condescending way.
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| : I don't think this conduct is unique to this wiki or to Doctor Who fan groups, but for this program, it's just such an enormous body of TV episodes, comics, audio programs and novels, that I don't think even the most loyal fans can keep it all straight, much less relative newbies like me. I'm here to learn but I'm sure I'll make lots of mistakes because I have limited knowledge (like, well, everyone else). It would be nice if more of the users here were interested in educating newbies instead of mocking or criticizing them. This type of behavior never produces any positive reaction from the person it's directed to and can shut down what might have been a fruitful conversation.
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| : That said, it's just been 7 or 8 encounters I've had that have devolved to this, either in the Forums or on Talk Pages. But, unfortunately, it seems like when people do choose to respond to others, it's usually because they have something negative to say, not because they agree with you. Comments I've made that don't provoke a negative reaction by and large just go unnoticed. Them's the breaks. : / [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:50, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
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| :: First, thank you for your thoughtful reply. It's appreciated.
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| :: Secondly, I wrote all of this (above) in reply to a message you posted on my Talk Page. I didn't bring it up or file a complaint. It's just that ''since'' you asked about it, I gave you my rundown on the situation and my experience on this wiki. I do given lengthy responses which I apologize for...it's from too much higher education. It becomes difficult to say things simply.
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| :: Finally, some of the snippiness I encountered are from when I was an anonymous user and in one of the situations (mentioned in a post on your Talk Page above), I see you addressed the user for their flippant and curt reply. Oddly though, they apologized to YOU and not on my IP talk page to me! So, I think that gesture was more to get back on your good side than to mend fences.
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| :: I am currently being followed around in the Forums and on Talk pages by another user who seems to think I'm very stupid as he takes great pleasure in correcting me. It's been going on for less than two weeks. I didn't want to run to the Admins and file a complaint because it's not my way. You all have plenty of wiki things to do and this is a mild case of harassment. I think it'll blow over and when I see that he is posting right after me, I just go elsewhere to post comments. I'll admit that I called him out on one thread and asked him to leave me alone but I went back and deleted that reply. Best to just not engage, I think. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:45, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
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| ::: Your request will require tracking down some old posts but I'll try to make time for this. It appears to no longer be an issue though. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:40, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
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| :::: Thanks for understanding. It really is two different kinds of negative remarks: 1) Those I received when I was just an anonymous IP user (it seems like they often receive potshots because who knows if they'll come back?) and 2) A user who was shadowing me last week and giving me a hard time. I think the latter incident has blown over.
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| ::::But I will let you know if I see a pattern of comments in the future. Of course, I'd prefer to send you a message rather than posting it publicly but that doesn't seem to be an option. Thanks, though for your concern. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:15, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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| ==GOR – Benny ideas & info==
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| Hey, Sorry it's taken me ages to do this. I've been a bit scatterbrained of late so I kinda read your request three times and came up with three different interpretations of what you wanted. Or at least I think so, please ask me again if I've got the wrong end of things.
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| Here's some fun things to attach to the various tracks for the GOR, I've added a couple of topics of Food and Culture as the ideas came to me while writing this up.
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| I struggled with coming up with any quotes/punny titles for is the sex with 8 thing. This, for reference is where that's ''[[The Dying Days (novel)]]'' the last page before the epilogue (which doesn't featured Benny or 8);
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| :Benny hesitated, looking into those deep blue eyes of his. 'Yes. Look, before you leave, there's one thing I have to do. I'd never forgive myself otherwise.'
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| :The Doctor looked puzzled. 'What would that - '
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| :She grabbed the lapels of his frock coat, kissed him square on the mouth and pushed him down hard onto the bed.
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| :Wolsey jumped out of the way.
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| I also couldn't think of anything for students, as while she's a archaeology professor I can't think of anything off the top of my head that's particularly student relevant. And on the longest travelling companion thing [[Fitz Kreiner]] was in more novels than Benny.
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| *Archaeology: "You've found coprolite on Apollox 4, Congrats!", "I found the Sword of Forever and all I got was...death",
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| *Students:
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| *Drinking: "Have a toast; M3 Variant and Potato Spirit",
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| *Eating: "Ate pizza in the 60s for the first time",
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| *Culture: "Star Trek TNG's a documentary right?",
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| *Sex with 8: "Standing naked with the Seventh Doctor; about romantic as a fish", "A Doctor who may change but never die" (actual quote from ''The Dying Days'')
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| *Marriage/Weddings: "Sherlock came to the wedding.", "The Brigadier came to the wedding", "Ice Warriors came to the wedding", "Ace had sex with a clone of my husband at the wedding.", "Started naked in a field with an Ice Warrior ended in the arms of Jason",
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| *Doctor/Companion length: "Travelled with the Doctor, then worked for his brother.",
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| *Ice Warriors: "Shurr…" (It's what the Martians call Benny and is like Dame or something),
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| Ask/prompt me with other topics and I'll try to dream up some others. Also tell me if I got this wrong and set me right :). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 16:09, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
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| :So did you have an idea about the images that would match the statements? You don't have to actually provide the images, but if you can point to the cover of comic panel that would work with these, it'll help in speeding the is track through. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:07: Sun 26 May 2013</span>
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| == Sort keys ==
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| Bit of a difficult question to answer, as there are so many possible causes for the error. I'll need links to advise you better. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:12: Sun 26 May 2013</span>
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| :Notes given at those two. Generally, people should always take {{tlx|NameSort}}. MOSt companies shouldn't have any sort key at all. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:35: Sun 26 May 2013</span>
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| I would like to know why you you keep undoing my edits and erasing my pictures from the wiki.
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| I would like to know why you are continuously erasing my edits and pictures from the wiki.
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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]
Hello, User:Shambala108.
Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
BananaClownMan ☎ 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]
Hello,
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?
Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba ☎ 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 ☎ 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
- Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ
Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:
As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.
Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin ☎ 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.
From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.
Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant ☎ 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
