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==False accusations==
I've put this here to avoid cluttering up [[talk:Dalek]]. I just want to reply to the points you made there.
Firstly, I'm not going to temper myself for your convenience. I can use the word "crap" in the fashion I did. It wasn't used as an insult and it suited my purpose. I can't even remember the last time I heard of someone being offended by something so tame as "crap". It might not be used in a "civilised" discussion by your standards, but I decided I wanted to use it and you have no grounds to tell me not to, as childish as that may sound.
As for you demand of an apology, just no.
To suggest I was threatening you actually irritates me as it's just slander. Take the comment at face value - I don't want you to falsely accuse me. That's all there is to it. I posted my opinions on why the image shouldn't be changed. There's nothing in that original post that constitutes a personal attack. It might have been impassioned, but that's just because I really do not like that image you proposed. [[The Doctor]], [[the Master]] and [[Dalek]] all used to have such collages and they were all scrapped for being an eyesore or misleading. I participated in those discussions, so to see an attempt at revival was unpleasant.
Now, with absolutely no subtext, please re-read posts before making accusations. If you really think I've attacked you personally, ask another admin to look over it, but they'll probably just tell you what I am - you've either misinterpreted or become disproportionately irate after I disagreed with your proposition. I don't mean to sound patronising, but I'd rather not continue this discussion with more back and forth about who offended who. I've seen many discussions like this before and they don't have a positive outcome. You may want to reply to this saying how wrong I am or whatever, but hopefully you'll realise I really was just disagreeing with you, not attacking you. Thanks--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 19:08, November 25, 2014 (UTC)
:We take accusations of personal abuse very seriously here at Tardis, thanks to a very strong [[T:ATTACKS|policy against them]].  I have read and re-read Skittles' comments at [[Talk:Dalek]] and can find no reasonable cause to believe he was attacking you. There was absolutely no ''kind'' of threat inherent in his remarks of 22:23 on 24 November.
:'''Disagreement is not an attack.'''
:It can further be inferred from [[T:CHAT RULES|our chat policy]] that curse words are not necessarily an indication of incivility. We '''specifically ''allow'' cursing for emphasis and/or dramatic effect''' here.
:Note that I don't personally think ''crap'' is a curse word, but even if it were, the ''context'' in which Skittles used it is, to my mind, still within the bounds of civility.  He isn't calling ''you'' crap, nor even your suggestion crap. Rather, he's saying that the imperative to find an image which demonstrates the latest model of Dalek is a flawed basis on which to make an infobox decision. Why? Because it promotes edit wars — an unproductive kind of one-upmanship in which people try to find the latest and greatest image, rather than concentrating on what's really important: editing the articles.
:All that said, just because I have, in this instance, found no basis to consider your claim of cyber-bullying further, your rights to file future grievances are not in any way compromised.  I, and the rest of the administrative team, will drop what we're doing and rush to your defence in future, if a confirmed case of bullying exists. 
:I hope that you will continue making suggestions and contributing to this wiki.  But I do urge you to read the whole of [[T:ATTACKS]] and [[T:CHAT RULES]] and even our [[Project:ParentPage]] to get a better sense of what we actually do consider to be areas of verbal concern within our community.  They might not be what you expect. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 20:00: Tue 25 Nov 2014</span>
== Past tense in direct quotations ==
I don't know either way off the top of my head if there is policy. But I'm not going to hugely resist changing long full verbatim sentences like the one on [[Dalek]], especially if it comes off as difficult to read (fragments are a different matter). That was just my preference of rendering it, to be honest. My main point with editing that lead is making it clear that Daleks are, at least in most accounts, not robots but a species or a race with DNA inside a shell. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 00:53, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

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False accusations[[edit source]]

I've put this here to avoid cluttering up talk:Dalek. I just want to reply to the points you made there.

Firstly, I'm not going to temper myself for your convenience. I can use the word "crap" in the fashion I did. It wasn't used as an insult and it suited my purpose. I can't even remember the last time I heard of someone being offended by something so tame as "crap". It might not be used in a "civilised" discussion by your standards, but I decided I wanted to use it and you have no grounds to tell me not to, as childish as that may sound.

As for you demand of an apology, just no.

To suggest I was threatening you actually irritates me as it's just slander. Take the comment at face value - I don't want you to falsely accuse me. That's all there is to it. I posted my opinions on why the image shouldn't be changed. There's nothing in that original post that constitutes a personal attack. It might have been impassioned, but that's just because I really do not like that image you proposed. The Doctor, the Master and Dalek all used to have such collages and they were all scrapped for being an eyesore or misleading. I participated in those discussions, so to see an attempt at revival was unpleasant.

Now, with absolutely no subtext, please re-read posts before making accusations. If you really think I've attacked you personally, ask another admin to look over it, but they'll probably just tell you what I am - you've either misinterpreted or become disproportionately irate after I disagreed with your proposition. I don't mean to sound patronising, but I'd rather not continue this discussion with more back and forth about who offended who. I've seen many discussions like this before and they don't have a positive outcome. You may want to reply to this saying how wrong I am or whatever, but hopefully you'll realise I really was just disagreeing with you, not attacking you. Thanks--Skittles the hog - talk 19:08, November 25, 2014 (UTC)

We take accusations of personal abuse very seriously here at Tardis, thanks to a very strong policy against them. I have read and re-read Skittles' comments at Talk:Dalek and can find no reasonable cause to believe he was attacking you. There was absolutely no kind of threat inherent in his remarks of 22:23 on 24 November.
Disagreement is not an attack.
It can further be inferred from our chat policy that curse words are not necessarily an indication of incivility. We specifically allow cursing for emphasis and/or dramatic effect here.
Note that I don't personally think crap is a curse word, but even if it were, the context in which Skittles used it is, to my mind, still within the bounds of civility. He isn't calling you crap, nor even your suggestion crap. Rather, he's saying that the imperative to find an image which demonstrates the latest model of Dalek is a flawed basis on which to make an infobox decision. Why? Because it promotes edit wars — an unproductive kind of one-upmanship in which people try to find the latest and greatest image, rather than concentrating on what's really important: editing the articles.
All that said, just because I have, in this instance, found no basis to consider your claim of cyber-bullying further, your rights to file future grievances are not in any way compromised. I, and the rest of the administrative team, will drop what we're doing and rush to your defence in future, if a confirmed case of bullying exists.
I hope that you will continue making suggestions and contributing to this wiki. But I do urge you to read the whole of T:ATTACKS and T:CHAT RULES and even our Project:ParentPage to get a better sense of what we actually do consider to be areas of verbal concern within our community. They might not be what you expect.
czechout<staff />    20:00: Tue 25 Nov 2014

Past tense in direct quotations[[edit source]]

I don't know either way off the top of my head if there is policy. But I'm not going to hugely resist changing long full verbatim sentences like the one on Dalek, especially if it comes off as difficult to read (fragments are a different matter). That was just my preference of rendering it, to be honest. My main point with editing that lead is making it clear that Daleks are, at least in most accounts, not robots but a species or a race with DNA inside a shell. -- Tybort (talk page) 00:53, December 18, 2014 (UTC)