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==canonical or whut?==
==canonical or whut?==
personally I consider ''[[I Am the Doctor]]'' obviously non-canonical and not worth considering as such. but I wanted to hash this. like I said, I don't consider this even remotely canon for the following reasons:
personally I consider ''[[I Am the Doctor]]'' obviously non-canonical and not worth considering as such. but I wanted to hash this. like I said, I don't consider this even remotely canon for the following reasons:
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*No one at the BBC (or any of the other license-holders, i.e. the estate of [[Terry Nation]], which owns part of the copyright for the [[Dalek]]s, AFAIK) authorized it.
*No one at the BBC (or any of the other license-holders, i.e. the estate of [[Terry Nation]], which owns part of the copyright for the [[Dalek]]s, AFAIK) authorized it.
*[[John Peel]], the author of this book, has made definitive statements regarding how the [[Eighth Doctor]] regenerated, etc. not as speculation in the form of a nonfiction, but as [[Whoniverse]] fact. this makes the book a kind of fan fiction.
*[[John Peel]], the author of this book, has made definitive statements regarding how the [[Eighth Doctor]] regenerated, etc. not as speculation in the form of a nonfiction, but as [[Whoniverse]] fact. this makes the book a kind of fan fiction.
*As an un-authorized fictional story, I think this falls under the category of un-canonical fiction, just like ''[[The Doctor and the Enterprise]]''. (hey, who can sure for sure that the Fourth Doctor didn't actually meet Captain Kirk, right?)  
*As an un-authorized fictional story, I think this falls under the category of un-canonical fiction, just like ''[[The Doctor and the Enterprise]]''. (hey, who can sure for sure that the Fourth Doctor didn't actually meet Captain Kirk, right?)


I would argue for not including this in the Wiki at all, if not for the fact that I believe in this Wiki listing this as a''Who''-related book, albeit un-official. like ''The Doctor and the Enterprise''.  
I would argue for not including this in the Wiki at all, if not for the fact that I believe in this Wiki listing this as a''Who''-related book, albeit un-official. like ''The Doctor and the Enterprise''.


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:I have not heard of this, but reading the descrition it looks like it just sumarises stories. I would probably say it was non canon, though I do think that as an official piece of merchandise we should note that it exists. [[User:Jack's the man|Jack's]] [[User talk:Jack's the man|the]] [[Special:Contributions/Jack's the man|man]] - 21:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:I have not heard of this, but reading the descrition it looks like it just sumarises stories. I would probably say it was non canon, though I do think that as an official piece of merchandise we should note that it exists. [[User:Jack's the man|Jack's]] [[User talk:Jack's the man|the]] [[Special:Contributions/Jack's the man|man]] - 21:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


:gah, don't know why I forgot to sign that. at any rate, it doesn't count as official merchandised. note the "un-authorized" part. it both summarizes stories and a little continuity of its own. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 00:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:gah, don't know why I forgot to sign that. at any rate, it doesn't count as official merchandised. note the "un-authorized" part. it both summarizes stories and a little continuity of its own. --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 00:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::It's non-canon for all the reasons listed above. It's worth listing as it's still Doctor Who related, but none of the stories should be included within any in-universe articles. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 07:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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personally I consider I Am the Doctor obviously non-canonical and not worth considering as such. but I wanted to hash this. like I said, I don't consider this even remotely canon for the following reasons:

  • No one at the BBC (or any of the other license-holders, i.e. the estate of Terry Nation, which owns part of the copyright for the Daleks, AFAIK) authorized it.
  • John Peel, the author of this book, has made definitive statements regarding how the Eighth Doctor regenerated, etc. not as speculation in the form of a nonfiction, but as Whoniverse fact. this makes the book a kind of fan fiction.
  • As an un-authorized fictional story, I think this falls under the category of un-canonical fiction, just like The Doctor and the Enterprise. (hey, who can sure for sure that the Fourth Doctor didn't actually meet Captain Kirk, right?)

I would argue for not including this in the Wiki at all, if not for the fact that I believe in this Wiki listing this as aWho-related book, albeit un-official. like The Doctor and the Enterprise.

I have not heard of this, but reading the descrition it looks like it just sumarises stories. I would probably say it was non canon, though I do think that as an official piece of merchandise we should note that it exists. Jack's the man - 21:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
gah, don't know why I forgot to sign that. at any rate, it doesn't count as official merchandised. note the "un-authorized" part. it both summarizes stories and a little continuity of its own. --Stardizzy2 00:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
It's non-canon for all the reasons listed above. It's worth listing as it's still Doctor Who related, but none of the stories should be included within any in-universe articles. --Tangerineduel 07:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)