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Where the {{tl|fact}} template is in the intro paragraph for the born/death dates, in this case is Wikipedia a valid source, since this article is showing the real-world born/death years, or does the citation need to be a DWU source? I'm new here, and I read through parts of the Manual of Style, especially [[T:CITE]], and still am unsure. --[[User:ToaMeiko|ToaMeiko]] [[User talk:ToaMeiko|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:22, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
Where the {{tl|fact}} template is in the intro paragraph for the born/death dates, in this case is Wikipedia a valid source, since this article is showing the real-world born/death years, or does the citation need to be a DWU source? I'm new here, and I read through parts of the Manual of Style, especially [[T:CITE]], and still am unsure. --[[User:ToaMeiko|ToaMeiko]] [[User talk:ToaMeiko|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:22, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
* We can only use sources from the DWU for [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe]] pages. Wikipedia is not considered a valid source for this wiki. You can read more at [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and [[Tardis:Valid sources/Detailed list]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:25, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
** Ah, that's what I figured. Thanks for the info. --[[User:ToaMeiko|ToaMeiko]] [[User talk:ToaMeiko|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:26, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
*** No problem. The manual of style is so big, sometimes it's faster just to ask someone. Any time you have a question, feel free to leave a message on [[User talk:Shambala108|my talk page]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:48, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
== prop merge ==
Beethoven shouldn't be merged with the 12th Doctor as he isn't Beethoven. While giving the example of someone becoming Beethoven in "Before the Flood" the Doctor says it didn't happen and he has met Beethoven. He was giving an example of a Bootstrap Paradox, not talking about something he experienced{{Unsigned|Cynical Classicist}}
It's heavily implied though. --[[Special:Contributions/90.221.128.67|90.221.128.67]]<sup>[[User talk:90.221.128.67#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:15, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
:The Doctor did say it didn't happen. He isn't Beethoven, he was using it as an analogy. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|13:10, 11/10/2015}}
::@90, we don't make major changes based on "implied". Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:17, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

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Citation Needed on Born/Death Year[[edit source]]

Where the {{fact}} template is in the intro paragraph for the born/death dates, in this case is Wikipedia a valid source, since this article is showing the real-world born/death years, or does the citation need to be a DWU source? I'm new here, and I read through parts of the Manual of Style, especially T:CITE, and still am unsure. --ToaMeiko 05:22, August 26, 2013 (UTC)

prop merge[[edit source]]

Beethoven shouldn't be merged with the 12th Doctor as he isn't Beethoven. While giving the example of someone becoming Beethoven in "Before the Flood" the Doctor says it didn't happen and he has met Beethoven. He was giving an example of a Bootstrap Paradox, not talking about something he experiencedThe preceding unsigned comment was added by Cynical Classicist (talk • contribs) .

It's heavily implied though. --90.221.128.67talk to me 12:15, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

The Doctor did say it didn't happen. He isn't Beethoven, he was using it as an analogy.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  13:10, 11/10/2015 
@90, we don't make major changes based on "implied". Thanks. Shambala108 14:17, October 11, 2015 (UTC)