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<div id=glow><div id=sfh style="font-size:150%;line-height:110%;text-align:center;">'''Welcome to the [[file:Wiki-wordmark.png|Tardis:About]] {{BASEPAGENAME}}</div>{{tardis manual}}
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Thanks for your [[Special:Contributions/{{PAGENAME}}|edits]]!  We hope you'll keep on editing with us.  This is a great time to have joined us, because now you can play the '''[[Help:Game of Rassilon|Game of Rassilon]]''' with us and win cool stuff! Well, okay, ''badges''.  That have no monetary value.  And that largely only you can see.  But still: they're cool!  
Thanks for your [[Special:Contributions/{{PAGENAME}}|edits]]!  We hope you'll keep on editing with us.  This is a great time to have joined us, because now you can play the '''[[Help:Game of Rassilon|Game of Rassilon]]''' with us and win cool stuff! Well, okay, ''badges''.  That have no monetary value.  And that largely only you can see.  But still: they're cool!  
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== Moving pages ==
== Block ==
 
You have been blocked for a week for hiding messages on your talk page '''after being asked by an admin not to do it'''. You will be able to edit your talk page during that time.
 
I don't care if the policy says "don't remove", hiding is the '''same thing''' as far as most editors are concerned, because they will not be able to see it. And if you think it's embarrassing, just check out any user's talk page. We've '''all''' done something wrong on the wiki and have been corrected by admins and other users. It's not embarrassing, it's normal, and it's '''not''' an excuse to remove/hide corrective messages. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:37, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
:Here's the thing, Richard. It's not practicable to write policies such that they cover every single eventuality.  Does the policy specifically forbid the hiding of messages? Actually [[T:DVAN]] tells you to make objectionable comments non printing in exactly the way you did. But what that rule means by ''objectionable'' is ''pornographic'' or ''swear words''. It does '''not''' mean just any old thing to which ''you personally'' object.  I mean, we all object to people telling us we've done wrong, but it's sorta the job of admin to guide you to understand where you've fallen foul of our policies.  So you can't go hiding our messages to you. In fact, [[T:DVAN]] later says:
::'''...it is absolutely an act of vandalism to edit or delete someone else' comments on "your" talk page'''
:And that's kinda what you were doing.  You were selectively snipping Shambala's comments, because you thought they reflected poorly on you.  They don't, though.  We don't expect you to know everything — or even much of anything — when you start editing with us.  But we ''do'' expect that you'll leave our messages in place.  That way, if another user comes by your talk page, they'll know that someone has already had a word with you about a particular subject. And they won't waste their time saying it again. 
 
:Also, when you switched tactics and started archiving Shambala's comments rather than hiding them, my guess is that you were trying to follow [[T:DVAN]] again.  Technically, [[T:DVAN]] and [[T:ARCH]] do both say that you can archive notes from your user talk page, as long as you put a link on your user talk page. And you did that.  So you might be thinking you followed the rules. But the ''spirit'' of the rule is, as the [[T:ARCH]] lead says, to "preserve discussions for future reference" and as the first section makes clear, to archive discussions that have actually gone cold. But c'mon: you were archiving statements made ''today''.  The conversation is deemed to be still active.  It's pretty obvious that you weren't preserving an old conversation.  You were sweeping an embarrassing one under the rug. And indeed, those are pretty much the exact words you gave to Shambala when she called you on it.
 
:I wish I could lift your ban, because I feel like you meant no particular harm, and maybe you just didn't read the complete policy.  Indeed, this incident makes me think I might need to make that area of policy a little clearer.  But the thing is that you repeatedly went against what Shambala was trying to tell you.  '''So, a week it must be'''.  But please don't feel like she, I, or anyone else here doesn't want you around.  We ''need'' your help.  But we just need you to understand that we're just trying to help you mature into a better editor when we drop by and leave notes on your page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:54: Mon 30 Dec 2013</span>
 
 
please undo my block since i was mistaken  [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:59, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
well i read them and it didnt say anything about hiding them and thought shambala was mistaken [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:17, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
im not really expecting you to undo it i just want to to shortern it [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:53, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Your ban has made me sad in real life [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:02, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
I am crying in real life [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:14, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
Because of your actions im disparing in real life and cryed because you exiled me from doctor who i feel like im exiled from the show  [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:41, December 30, 2013 (UTC)
 
:In the six days remaining on your sentence, please consider the following:
:*The admonishment of {{w|Tom Hanks}}' character in {{wi|A League of Their Own}} applies here as well: '''''There's no crying in wiki editing.'''''
:*[[user:Shambala108|Shambala108]] isn't likely wrong. She's one of the most fair-minded people I've met in well over a decade of wiki editing. So please don't ignore her and edit ''around'' her like you did before. That's simply rude.  And it's likely a violation of [[T:POINT]].
:*You can still write articles offline in this period. So use the time to do so. And use the time to read the wiki thoroughly, to get a better sense of how we do things. That way, you'll be ready to make a lot of useful edits when you return. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:36: Tue 31 Dec 2013</span>
 
 
 
 
 


Hi! Please '''stop''' moving pages without a community discussion, as you did at [[Clara's Mother (The Name of The Doctor)]]. For one thing, you misnamed it, but more importantly, the issue was up for discussion at the talk page, which means no one can take action on the matter until it's resolved. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:36, December 29, 2013 (UTC)


:: '''Do not hide admin comments on your ''talk page'''''. Doing so could be seen as a violation of [[Tardis:Vandalism policy]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:13, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
so im banned from crying [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also 1 the number of times i disobeyed shambala
1 the number of days it should happen for [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:38, December 31, 2013 (UTC)


Also stopping me from crying is a breach of human rights[[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:38, December 31, 2013 (UTC)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:36, December 31, 2013 (UTC)


Yes but it is a subject of embarrassment[[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ]] [[User talk:Orangerichard56#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:23, December 29, 2013 (UTC)
doctor born as other then loom and became the doctor but in a goodman goes to war and many stories doctor remember hes family and we saw hes cot.Cot must be blong the other possibly he remembers hes life as other thats what i think

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Clara Oswald[[edit source]]

Hi! I had to remove your post to the Clara Oswald talk page because you posted on an archived page. As the message on the archived page clearly states, archives are closed to new posts. If you want to discuss the issue further, you can open a new topic at Talk:Clara Oswald. Thanks! Shambala108 17:13, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

War Doctors and infobox[[edit source]]

OK, here's the deal. I haven't watched The Day of the Doctor (TV story) yet, so I can only go by Thread:145487. Right now there are a lot of back and forth changes being made to any page connected with that story, so it's hard to keep up with all the edits being made.

Also, we have very specific rules about infoboxes. Only one Doctor can go in the "Doctor" section of the infobox. That's the way the infobox was designed. Therefore, Matt Smith's Doctor is the only one that would go into the infobox for this particular story. Other Doctors can be added to the "featuring" section.

If I haven't answered your question, please let me know, and it might help if you let me know who is changing the edits you are concerned about. Thanks. Shambala108 18:50, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Also I added The moment under the war doctors companions but someone keeps reverting which i dont agree with since the moment appeared frequently and helped him like a companion so im reverting it. Also he deleted the picture of the bad wolf moment picture which is pointless. 19:05, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Actually your images are being deleted because they violate several image policies. You can read them at Tardis:Image use policy, Tardis:Guide to images and Help:Image cheat card. One of the specific rules is that we don't allow screen shots in .png — all screenshots in .png are deleted. Please read the entire set of policies and then try uploading your images again. Shambala108 19:12, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

I found a picture of the moment and its JPG 19:16, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

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Block[[edit source]]

You have been blocked for a week for hiding messages on your talk page after being asked by an admin not to do it. You will be able to edit your talk page during that time.

I don't care if the policy says "don't remove", hiding is the same thing as far as most editors are concerned, because they will not be able to see it. And if you think it's embarrassing, just check out any user's talk page. We've all done something wrong on the wiki and have been corrected by admins and other users. It's not embarrassing, it's normal, and it's not an excuse to remove/hide corrective messages. Shambala108 21:37, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Here's the thing, Richard. It's not practicable to write policies such that they cover every single eventuality. Does the policy specifically forbid the hiding of messages? Actually T:DVAN tells you to make objectionable comments non printing in exactly the way you did. But what that rule means by objectionable is pornographic or swear words. It does not mean just any old thing to which you personally object. I mean, we all object to people telling us we've done wrong, but it's sorta the job of admin to guide you to understand where you've fallen foul of our policies. So you can't go hiding our messages to you. In fact, T:DVAN later says:
...it is absolutely an act of vandalism to edit or delete someone else' comments on "your" talk page
And that's kinda what you were doing. You were selectively snipping Shambala's comments, because you thought they reflected poorly on you. They don't, though. We don't expect you to know everything — or even much of anything — when you start editing with us. But we do expect that you'll leave our messages in place. That way, if another user comes by your talk page, they'll know that someone has already had a word with you about a particular subject. And they won't waste their time saying it again.
Also, when you switched tactics and started archiving Shambala's comments rather than hiding them, my guess is that you were trying to follow T:DVAN again. Technically, T:DVAN and T:ARCH do both say that you can archive notes from your user talk page, as long as you put a link on your user talk page. And you did that. So you might be thinking you followed the rules. But the spirit of the rule is, as the T:ARCH lead says, to "preserve discussions for future reference" and as the first section makes clear, to archive discussions that have actually gone cold. But c'mon: you were archiving statements made today. The conversation is deemed to be still active. It's pretty obvious that you weren't preserving an old conversation. You were sweeping an embarrassing one under the rug. And indeed, those are pretty much the exact words you gave to Shambala when she called you on it.
I wish I could lift your ban, because I feel like you meant no particular harm, and maybe you just didn't read the complete policy. Indeed, this incident makes me think I might need to make that area of policy a little clearer. But the thing is that you repeatedly went against what Shambala was trying to tell you. So, a week it must be. But please don't feel like she, I, or anyone else here doesn't want you around. We need your help. But we just need you to understand that we're just trying to help you mature into a better editor when we drop by and leave notes on your page.
czechout<staff />    03:54: Mon 30 Dec 2013


please undo my block since i was mistaken Silence Fall 09:59, December 30, 2013 (UTC)


well i read them and it didnt say anything about hiding them and thought shambala was mistaken Silence Fall 10:17, December 30, 2013 (UTC)

im not really expecting you to undo it i just want to to shortern it Silence Fall 11:53, December 30, 2013 (UTC)


Your ban has made me sad in real life Silence Fall 12:02, December 30, 2013 (UTC)


I am crying in real life Silence Fall 12:14, December 30, 2013 (UTC)


Because of your actions im disparing in real life and cryed because you exiled me from doctor who i feel like im exiled from the show Silence Fall 12:41, December 30, 2013 (UTC)

In the six days remaining on your sentence, please consider the following:
  • The admonishment of Tom Hanks' character in A League of Their Own applies here as well: There's no crying in wiki editing.
  • Shambala108 isn't likely wrong. She's one of the most fair-minded people I've met in well over a decade of wiki editing. So please don't ignore her and edit around her like you did before. That's simply rude. And it's likely a violation of T:POINT.
  • You can still write articles offline in this period. So use the time to do so. And use the time to read the wiki thoroughly, to get a better sense of how we do things. That way, you'll be ready to make a lot of useful edits when you return.
    czechout<staff />    01:36: Tue 31 Dec 2013




so im banned from crying [[User:Orangerichard56| Silence Fall Also 1 the number of times i disobeyed shambala 1 the number of days it should happen for Silence Fall 08:38, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

Also stopping me from crying is a breach of human rights Silence Fall 08:38, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

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doctor born as other then loom and became the doctor but in a goodman goes to war and many stories doctor remember hes family and we saw hes cot.Cot must be blong the other possibly he remembers hes life as other thats what i think