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Infobox image - round two

In the past, there was a (very) brief discussion about changing the infobox image for the Second Doctor, but a change was never made. I agree with User:OttselSpy25's argument that it's not the best image per policy, so I'm starting a new round of discussion.

I've found a few images that potentially could be used for the infobox, but I encourage anyone to try and find mere suitable ones as well. Out of these, my favorite is #4. It just encompasses Two's personality the best. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 16:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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  Current image (#1).

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  User:OttselSpy25's old proposal (#2).

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  (#3) (OncomingStorm12th)

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  (#4) (OncomingStorm12th)

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  (#5) (OncomingStorm12th)

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  (#6) (User:Scrooge MacDuck)

All valid choices. I've added a suggestion of my own, #6, from The Evil of the Daleks's iconic "I will not be your slave!" scene. Though he might be remembered as 'the Clown', I think the more worried look is actually closer to the usual tone of Troughton's Doctor in his own era. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 16:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

I quite like #4 at the moment. OS25🤙☎️ 00:04, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

#4 is my favourite too, but I would also be happy with #2 or #3. LauraBatham ☎ 03:37, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I like #4 best as well. Danochy ☎ 07:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 5 >1 NoNotTheMemes ☎ 23:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

So it seems that, since 2021, nothing has changed here. That works out well, because I actually think I have a better crop of images to choose from. We've had higher quality scans of a few episodes that are more easily available and a change in our image policies, so it makes sense to start from scratch. Compare:

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  Current image

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  1. 1 - B&W
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  1. 2 - Color
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  1. 3 - OS25
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  1. 4 - FractalDoctor

If we're not going to use an image from The Three Doctors (a decision I myself am unsure about), I think #1 is very obviously the image we should use. Feel free to add other options or otherwise voice your opinion. NoNotTheMemes ☎ 06:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

I really like this #1. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 01:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

You know, this might be egotistical... But I still think my old #2 suggestion is the best pick. It just looks like the image I think of when I imagine Patrick Troughton/2. OS25🤙☎️ 01:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

While I like your old suggestion (which is now #3), I feel that #1 better encompasses Troughton's performance and character. The face is not only more neutral, but it is still expressive -- it's got that mischevious quality. Likewise, it captures Troughton's ragged costume (which is a big part of that "cosmic hobo" moniker he is often described with). While I would find your proposal acceptable, I still prefer #1. 1 > 3 > 2 > Current. NoNotTheMemes ☎ 02:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Reigniting this, and I've added my preference which is #4 in the most recent gallery. — Fractal Doctor • 13:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm still not very happy with #4 in content — the grin simply seems a more superficial look at the character than the sterner looks — but notwithstanding my personal feelings there, it must also be said that it's noticeably lower-quality than #1 and #2. I would be willing to bow to consensus on #4 provided a higher-resolution version is found, but of the current candidates, I think #1 (which notably also has him smiling, albeit less broadly) is the more justifiable pick.

In the interest of quickly rotating Doctor images to help differentiate ourselves from our former self, I will be implementing #1 for the time being. However, if a higher-resolution version of #4 is found, please post it here and we will pivot to that one unless the vote turns otherwise. And of course, feel free to keep suggesting other possibilities. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)