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:: All moot now as the announcements have been made. I've added the first day of filming and first Capaldi shooting day, and also the date of the readthrough (announced by the official DW Twitter feed from the BBC). [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
:: All moot now as the announcements have been made. I've added the first day of filming and first Capaldi shooting day, and also the date of the readthrough (announced by the official DW Twitter feed from the BBC). [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)


== Rumours section ==
Is there any point in adding the "Tom the teacher from Day of the Doctor might be a new companion" rumor that's been kicking around since November 23? [[Special:Contributions/68.146.70.124|68.146.70.124]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.70.124#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
::It can only be added if it's cited from a [[T:OOU SRC|proper source]]. Otherwise, anybody could add anything and the page would quickly become a mess. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:39, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
: Nevermind that, do we even need the actual rumour section? [[User:TheMostBoringManInTheWorld|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">'''TheMostBoringManInTheWorld'''</span>]] [[User talk:TheMostBoringManInTheWorld|<span style="color:#4169E1;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:38, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
I know, by what you say, that this is a fansite, but I thought you might find this interesting: http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/summer-broadcast-for-doctor-who-series-8-60862.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DoctorWhoTv+%28Doctor+Who+TV%29 --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:55, February 12, 2014 (UTC)
==Tom Riley==
If I remember correctly, Tom Riley is playing Robin Hood. --[[Special:Contributions/109.59.102.144|109.59.102.144]]<sup>[[User talk:109.59.102.144#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:58, June 11, 2014 (UTC)
==Master==
Unless the BBC has confirmed it, we can't say "The Master ''will'' return." Could someone please change the wording to "may"? [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:30, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
:Well, the rumor isn't that the Master ''might'' return; the rumor is that he ''will'' return... --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 21:33, June 30, 2014 (UTC)


== Trailer ==
== Trailer ==
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:There are plenty of ways people can find the link without us linking to it. Anyway, it is against [[Tardis:Video policy]] (point #6) to link to videos offsite. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:09, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
:There are plenty of ways people can find the link without us linking to it. Anyway, it is against [[Tardis:Video policy]] (point #6) to link to videos offsite. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:09, July 18, 2014 (UTC)


==Rumours==
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There are many rumours saying that the second episode is called "Into the Dalek", the third "Robots of Sherwood", fourth "Listen", fifth "Time Heist", ninth "Flatline" and the eleventh "Death In Heaven". --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:31, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
 
:There is a section for rumors on the series 8 page, but the titles can only be posted there '''if they include a valid source''', that is, where do these rumors come from. There are complete guidelines for valid sources at the top of the series 8 article. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:20, August 3, 2014 (UTC)
 
I could link to various pages, but I don't know which you considered valid. And the pages I find them on doesn't link on to other pages, except one that link on to Tweets on Twitter. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:23, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
:Danniesen, I believe you just violated [[T:SPOIL]]. Those first four episode titles aren't rumours, they're spoilers! {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|14:52, 4/8/2014}}
::Oops... I'm so sorry if that's the case. I never meant to do that. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:15, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
::I thought they were simple rumours. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:18, August 4, 2014 (UTC)
 
Actually, spoilers are allowed on this page because [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside]] unilaterally locked the Series 8 page, so if any non-admins have a contribution to make, the only option is to post it here for an admin to see. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:15, August 7, 2014 (UTC)
 
== Daleks ==
Daleks aren't a rumour anymore. They've been seen in the official trailer. [[User:Hylianhobbit|Hylian]] [[User talk:Hylianhobbit|Hobbit]] 18:13, August 7, 2014 (UTC)
:Not necessarily. In the trailer for ''Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2'' there is a scene of Voldemort grabbing Harry Potter's face asking him why he lives and Harry says because I have something worth living for. Although the scene was filmed, it was cut from final movie. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:58, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, yes. We have Daleks. It's revealed in some clips from the related episode. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:29, August 9, 2014 (UTC)
::: In which case they can be removed from the Rumours section. BBC News (which I think qualifies as a proper source) aired a clip of Capaldi and a Dalek from an upcoming episode in its coverage of the Cardiff launch event. What we don't know is which episode, because while I've seen some sites say a specific episode, in fact the BBC news item does not identify the episode, so ''that'' information is still uncertain and obviously off-limits. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:35, August 11, 2014 (UTC)
 
== Editing ==
I really don't mind there being no ability to edit the series 8 page apart from the fact they just announced 11 more episode titles.
{{Unsigned|Dalekpirate|10:49, August 13, 2014}}
:Do you have a source? All I'm aware of is the BBC just confirmed "Into the Dalek" as episode 2's title which needs to be updated (and the whole Dalek thing definitely needs to be deleted from the rumors section); I'm having trouble finding the BBC announcement page otherwise I'd have added it myself (I understand fan sites are considered iffy so I can't use them). I've never known them to announce the finale title this far back since the title is often a spoiler so I very much doubt all 11 have been announced already. And of course any titles taken from leaked episodes/scripts can't count because they might be changed. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:07, August 14, 2014 (UTC)
::Well the site with the statement that I got this info from seems to have vanished of the face of the earth but considering it did say the correct 2nd episode title before it was on the bbc website I vouch for it I can give you the lost if you want.{{Unsigned|Dalekpirate}}
:::Dalekpirate, it's policy to sign your posts on a talk page.
 
:::Please note that anything posted on the series 8 page needs to be properly sourced. The page gives links to our definition of proper sources. It's nothing personal, but your vouching for the information doesn't count.
 
I can now give you a link to the actual sorce on the bbc doctor who website
 
:::I suggest you drop a note at [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside]] to let him know that there are things to add to the page. He's the one who protected the page, so he's the logical one to add information. If you do post to his page, however, '''do not post any spoilers'''. Just tell him to come to this page and read your message. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:57, August 14, 2014 (UTC)
::::Here's a link: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-08-14/doctor-who-episode-2-synopsis-teases-that-the-doctor-could-change-the-daleks-forever  Shambala, I've done as you suggested and notified SOTO. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|21:05, 14/8/2014}}
:::::And now all 12 episode titles are out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/New-Series-All-the-Episode-Titles-and-More {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|12:18, 18/8/2014}}


== Title sequence ==
== Spoilers ==


Can information about the new fan-inspired title sequence be added?
Hey guys :)  
[http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-08-15/new-doctor-who-title-sequence-inspired-by-fan-video] '''[[User:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#002B7F">P&amp;P</span>]] [[User_talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#FCD116;font-size:0.6em">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#CE1126;font-size:0.6em">contribs</span>]]''' 01:58, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


I have redacted almost everything posted to this page.  Just wanted to remind people of a very basic truth of our [[T:SPOIL|spoiler policy]].  As clearly spelled out in [[T:SPOIL ALLOW]], spoilers are only allowed on the page itself ([[Series 8 (Doctor Who 2005)]], and in [[Howling:The Howling|The Howling]].  This page that we're currently on, {{FULLPAGENAME}}, is in the talk namespace, and therefore not a place where spoilers are allowed. 


== All Series 8 Episode Titles Revealed ==
''Procedural'' questions are allowed. Asking very ''general'' questions about what's allowed, that's cool, too.  But if you want to discuss any real ''specifics'' about what's allowed on the page, it is generally much, much safer to go to [[Howling:The Howling|The Howling]].  That's really the whole point of that [[namespace]].  Every post there will be behind a spoiler screen and thus people can decide whether they want to read it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/New-Series-All-the-Episode-Titles-and-More
So a "best practice" would be to:
* Open up a Howling thread on the aspect of this article you would like edited.
* Make sure the title of the thread reveals no spoilers in itself.  Choose something generic like "S8 cast list" or "Thoughts on editing the S8 page", or similar.
* Directly contact an admin (or several of us) and say, "Please go to <insert link to Howling thread>. I think [[series 8]] should be edited along the lines I've suggested there. What do you think?"
* Remember that an admin has the right to say, "I'm sorry, the [[series 8]] page doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's not important to me that the page is accurate until the series has actually transmitted. Please ask another admin for help."


Episode 1: '''Deep Breath'''.
Written by Steven Moffat
Directed by Ben Wheatley


Episode 2: '''Into The Dalek'''
This talk page is definitely '''not''' where you should list spoilers and then say, "Let's add this to the article".  Any spoilers on this site need to be behind a spoiler screen so that users have the choice to avoid them if they wish.
Written by Phil Ford and Steven Moffat
Directed by Ben Wheatley
Introducing Samuel Anderson as Danny Pink.


Episode 3: '''Robot Of Sherwood'''
Additionally, almost all of the comments I've deleted from this page today could have been answered by reading [[T:RUMOUR]], [[T:OFFICIAL INFO]] and [[T:SPOIL CREW]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:53: Tue 19 Aug 2014</span>
Written by Mark Gatiss
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Directed by Paul Murphy


Episode 4: '''Listen'''
==Rumours-section==
Written by Steven Moffat
Now that the page says that Daleks will appear, is it necessary for it to say so in the Rumours-section, or should this be removed? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:29, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
Directed by Douglas Mackinnon


Episode 5: '''Time Heist'''
The source regarding the rumoured return of The Master is completely inaccurate: the website's summary of the previous stories inclusive of the Master combine the plots of Last of the Time Lords and The End of Time, and therefore even as a rumour, the site shouldn't be cited.
Written by Stephen Thompson and Steven Moffat
I'm new to this, and didn't jump in and delete anything because the rumour still exists, but the source isn't reliable.
Directed by Douglas Mackinnon
[[User:Team Zarbi|Team Zarbi]] [[User talk:Team Zarbi|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:05, September 18, 2014 (UTC)


Episode 6: '''The Caretaker'''
==Episode-titles==
Written by Gareth Roberts and Steven Moffat
There is a site that explains what the titles for all the episodes are, and I wouldn't write the titles on the page because I don't know if you consider it reliable. It's called "bbc.co.uk." in the link. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:41, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
Directed by Paul Murphy


Episode 7: '''Kill The Moon'''
It's as reliable as you can get. [http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/New-Series-All-the-Episode-Titles-and-More Official List from the BBC]
Written by Peter Harness
[[User:TheZayxe|TheZayxe]] [[User talk:TheZayxe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:21, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
Directed by Paul Wilmshurst


Episode 8: '''Mummy On The Orient Express'''
Okay, thanks. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:45, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
Written by Jamie Mathieson
Directed by Paul Wilmshurst


Episode 9: '''Flatline'''
==Episode edits==
Written by Jamie Mathieson
I added an item to the Episode Notes section on the two major edits. I'm aware site rules prohibit explicit details being posted of episodes not yet aired, however as the headline for the Radio Times story linked to does not contain a spoiler, and I refrained from specifying how the journalists were killed, I think it should be safe in the 24 hours left to go before the episode airs. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:44, September 5, 2014 (UTC)
Directed by Douglas Mackinnon


Episode 10: '''In The Forest Of The Night'''
Written by Frank Cottrell Boyce
Directed by Sheree Folkson


Episode 11/12 '''Dark Water'''/'''Death In Heaven'''
== Robot of Sherwood ==
Written by Steven Moffat
I know this is probably not the place but Robot of Sherwood reminded me of the Robots of Death, i think it's called. Are they the same robots as the story didn't explicitly say where they came from except the 29th century which I think the 4th Doctor said the robots of death came from... [[Special:Contributions/109.145.197.27|109.145.197.27]]<sup>[[User talk:109.145.197.27#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
Directed by Rachel Talalay


== Page protected ==
==Mummy on the Orient Express==
Someone needs to re-edit the block for Mummy on the Orient Express. The unresolved plot point at the end of Series 5 was "an Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express." Not a mummy.


This page has been locked by [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside]]. Therefore, if you want to add content to this page, please post it here and then leave a note at [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside]], asking him to visit this page. '''Do not''', however, post the spoilers on his talk page, as that would violate [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:11, August 18, 2014 (UTC)
A revolution in the works Pcthomas2 13:47, October 20, 2014 (UTC)


:In addition, '''do not put spoilers in section headings on this page''', as they show up in recent activity pages. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:19, August 19, 2014 (UTC)
== New old enemies ==
==1st episode cast confirmed==
Credits for Deep Breath can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p023w9fy {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|12:06, 19/8/2014}}


==Writer credits==
Were there any Old Who enemies who made their first reappearance in New Who this season? Otherwise this is the first season not to have a new original series enemy reintroduced, and it should probably be noted in the article. [[User:Bathbomber|Bathbomber]] [[User talk:Bathbomber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:31, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
The episode list needs to be updated to reflect the confirmed writer credits (Moffat is co-writer of the Ford, Thompson and Roberts episodes). [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:04, August 19, 2014 (UTC)

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Can we continue?[[edit source]]

The article was locked and reverted to its original form two months ago, and has been unlocked for almost a month. Can we re-enter the information and update with more (if there is anything new to report, that is) at this point?
--SOTO 08:37, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Well, at least it doesn't have any story arc spoilers. And BBC hasn't announced any, so we're in luck.

Filming start needs to be corrected[[edit source]]

It's been announced that filming begins on 6th January 2014, not in December, so that needs to be corrected. Presumably, since the 6th is tomorrow, an official announcement from the BBC will be issued that can be used as a source. 68.146.70.124talk to me 05:30, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

"It's been announced"? By whom? If you give me a source, I'll add it to the page.
--SOTO 05:35, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Today is January 6 for me. Sergent Doomy Doom, Doomy Doomy Doomy Doom-BOOM! Boooooooom...Dooooom...Doom Boom. Doom Boom. Doom Boom. 01:51, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

All moot now as the announcements have been made. I've added the first day of filming and first Capaldi shooting day, and also the date of the readthrough (announced by the official DW Twitter feed from the BBC). 68.146.70.124talk to me 18:28, January 7, 2014 (UTC)


Trailer[[edit source]]

I understand we can't upload videos or pictures here, and we can't use the trailer as a source because it is very vague and misleading, but can we add a prominent link to it? I think anyone coming to this page would like to see it. CloneMarshalCommanderCody 03:54, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

There are plenty of ways people can find the link without us linking to it. Anyway, it is against Tardis:Video policy (point #6) to link to videos offsite. Shambala108 04:09, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers[[edit source]]

Hey guys :)

I have redacted almost everything posted to this page. Just wanted to remind people of a very basic truth of our spoiler policy. As clearly spelled out in T:SPOIL ALLOW, spoilers are only allowed on the page itself (Series 8 (Doctor Who 2005), and in The Howling. This page that we're currently on, Talk:Series 8 (Doctor Who 2005), is in the talk namespace, and therefore not a place where spoilers are allowed.

Procedural questions are allowed. Asking very general questions about what's allowed, that's cool, too. But if you want to discuss any real specifics about what's allowed on the page, it is generally much, much safer to go to The Howling. That's really the whole point of that namespace. Every post there will be behind a spoiler screen and thus people can decide whether they want to read it.

So a "best practice" would be to:

  • Open up a Howling thread on the aspect of this article you would like edited.
  • Make sure the title of the thread reveals no spoilers in itself. Choose something generic like "S8 cast list" or "Thoughts on editing the S8 page", or similar.
  • Directly contact an admin (or several of us) and say, "Please go to <insert link to Howling thread>. I think series 8 should be edited along the lines I've suggested there. What do you think?"
  • Remember that an admin has the right to say, "I'm sorry, the series 8 page doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's not important to me that the page is accurate until the series has actually transmitted. Please ask another admin for help."


This talk page is definitely not where you should list spoilers and then say, "Let's add this to the article". Any spoilers on this site need to be behind a spoiler screen so that users have the choice to avoid them if they wish.

Additionally, almost all of the comments I've deleted from this page today could have been answered by reading T:RUMOUR, T:OFFICIAL INFO and T:SPOIL CREW.
czechout<staff />    15:53: Tue 19 Aug 2014

Rumours-section[[edit source]]

Now that the page says that Daleks will appear, is it necessary for it to say so in the Rumours-section, or should this be removed? --DCLM 11:29, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

The source regarding the rumoured return of The Master is completely inaccurate: the website's summary of the previous stories inclusive of the Master combine the plots of Last of the Time Lords and The End of Time, and therefore even as a rumour, the site shouldn't be cited. I'm new to this, and didn't jump in and delete anything because the rumour still exists, but the source isn't reliable. Team Zarbi 01:05, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

Episode-titles[[edit source]]

There is a site that explains what the titles for all the episodes are, and I wouldn't write the titles on the page because I don't know if you consider it reliable. It's called "bbc.co.uk." in the link. --DCLM 11:41, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

It's as reliable as you can get. Official List from the BBC TheZayxe 16:21, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. :) --DCLM 09:45, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

Episode edits[[edit source]]

I added an item to the Episode Notes section on the two major edits. I'm aware site rules prohibit explicit details being posted of episodes not yet aired, however as the headline for the Radio Times story linked to does not contain a spoiler, and I refrained from specifying how the journalists were killed, I think it should be safe in the 24 hours left to go before the episode airs. 23skidoo 16:44, September 5, 2014 (UTC)


Robot of Sherwood[[edit source]]

I know this is probably not the place but Robot of Sherwood reminded me of the Robots of Death, i think it's called. Are they the same robots as the story didn't explicitly say where they came from except the 29th century which I think the 4th Doctor said the robots of death came from... 109.145.197.27talk to me 19:45, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Mummy on the Orient Express[[edit source]]

Someone needs to re-edit the block for Mummy on the Orient Express. The unresolved plot point at the end of Series 5 was "an Egyptian goddess loose on the Orient Express." Not a mummy.

A revolution in the works Pcthomas2 13:47, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

New old enemies[[edit source]]

Were there any Old Who enemies who made their first reappearance in New Who this season? Otherwise this is the first season not to have a new original series enemy reintroduced, and it should probably be noted in the article. Bathbomber 04:31, November 9, 2014 (UTC)