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In [[Zagreus (audio story)]], the [[Third Doctor]] appears as a "disembodied voice" in the Tardis, with the audio being taken from [[Devious]], a fan production from which only an excerpt has been released. Would this meet the criteria for inclusion on this list ("excludes... stories featuring only pictures or archive footage of another incarnations")? [[User:PicassoAndPringles|PicassoAndPringles]] [[User talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)
In [[Zagreus (audio story)]], the [[Third Doctor]] appears as a "disembodied voice" in the Tardis, with the audio being taken from [[Devious]], a fan production from which only an excerpt has been released. Would this meet the criteria for inclusion on this list ("excludes... stories featuring only pictures or archive footage of another incarnations")? [[User:PicassoAndPringles|PicassoAndPringles]] [[User talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)


== The Valeyard ==
Shouldn't the various Valeyard stories be on this list?[[Special:Contributions/50.46.154.250|50.46.154.250]]<sup>[[User talk:50.46.154.250#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:09, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't the various Valeyard stories be on this list?[[Special:Contributions/50.46.154.250|50.46.154.250]]<sup>[[User talk:50.46.154.250#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:09, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
: I'll second this question.[[User:Cousin Zagreus|Cousin Zagreus]] [[User talk:Cousin Zagreus|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:40, December 5, 2014 (UTC)
==All-Consuming Fire==
I'm wondering as to why [[All-Consuming Fire (novel)|All-Consuming Fire]] hasn't been added to the list. It features the First, Third, and Seventh Doctors after all.--[[User:Crazyface201|Crazyface201]] [[User talk:Crazyface201|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:47, December 28, 2014 (UTC)
== Stories that should be removed. ==
Multi-Doctor stories are, by definition, stories where two incarnations of the Doctor cross over to share an adventure. They don't have to meet really or even be around at the same time sometimes, they just need to both be involved in the same tale. It's been agreed for a long time that regeneration stories did and do not count because they're one regeneration turning into another, and not two Doctors crossing time streams. That's why I vote for the removal of stories such as ''[[Timeslip (comic story)|Timeslip]]'' and ''[[The Fountains of Forever (comic story)|Fountains of Forever]]'', both of which feature the current Doctor aging back in time by some means to briefly take on the appearances of his past incarnations. They're not cross overs or Time Travel stories, they don't feature the Doctors meeting each other, they're basically just regeneration stories in reverse. If ''The Tenth Planet'' isn't on this list, than these shouldn't be. 00:13, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
:This topic has been brought up for discussion at [[Thread:178629]] for anyone interested in taking part. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:57, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
:: That was me... Not sure why my name god cut off... [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 15:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
== Two missing stories (as of July 2018)  ==
In “Timewyrm: Genesys” both the Fourth Doctor and Third Doctor appear as manifestations. Four is a hologram, Three is a persona that briefly inhabits the Seventh Doctor.
Additionally “Dumb Waiter” (2018 cc audio) needs adding. The Fourth Doctor appears separately from the Second but the story thus far isn’t on the list.
== Need to add Fugitive of the Judoon ==
Anyone able to do this? The table is too complex for me to fiddle with [[User:Alantogers|Alantogers]] [[User talk:Alantogers|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:19, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
:That depends on what we consider this "new Doctor". As of yet, we can't put her as a real incarnation of our known Doctor until we have further information. For all, it could all be a big twist-around. Never trust anything just as is. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:36, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
::Indeed. As is often the case with the new series there's an arc and we need to wait for its conclusion to present accurate information. As DCLM says we need further info before we can work out which table she goes in and how it all fits together. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:28, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
:::Chibnall himself has said she's definitely the Doctor, and that there's no trick. But never trust what people say about something yet to come. It could be a ruse to have us distracted. As he says, she is very deliberate in the way the plot arc is going. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:34, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
== Should fugitive recieve her own section? ==
In much the same way that 1-15 as well as war have a seperate slot, should fugitive receieve one before 1? Right now she is just slotted as other, and while other timeless incarnations make sense there, I wonder if fugitive should recieve her own since she has appearead enough in EU (both released and upcoming if the BF box sets ever release) to count as her own distinct incarnation? She's also appeared in multiple slots on these lists so she would certainly make good use of it.
So basically the new counting would be '''F''' 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 W 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 {{unsigned|WILLJEUM}}

Latest revision as of 20:37, 13 January 2024

a story not yet added[[edit source]]

I tend to screw up when editing using tables, so just making note of this one:

  • Timewyrm: Revelation from 1991. it features the Seventh Doctor and guest-stars the first, third and fifth Doctors. (and I think the fourth as ferryman to the underworld? I forget.)
  • Emperor of the Daleks! from 1993, featuring the Seventh Doctor and guest-starring the sixth Doctor.

--50.138.227.67talk to me 15:41, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

The name of the doctor is Multi-doctor, It fall under this criteria: It Includes stories with flashbacks, The scenes are altered enough from their original context to be "new" flashbacks. Especially the first and second doctors 92.9.56.219talk to me 14:37, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

First Doctor[[edit source]]

First Doctor appeared in Cold Fusion add this. --Doctor other 02:17, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Which chapter? Shambala108 04:13, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Episode 6 The Patient Memories often do. I want to know what is happening. ‘If you would be so kind as to come with me?’ ‘Who are you?’ He was so old, but there weren’t any old people any more. He walked through the cloister with the aid of a stick, a knobbled stick with strange writing on it. There was a dark shape drifting behind him in the shadows. Outside the Capitol was burning. ‘I couldn’t possibly tell you that, oh no.’ ‘You wear my husband’s ring.’ He held it up to the candlelight, examined it, then clutched it to his chest. ‘Yes. So I do.’ ‘Please stop them – they are trying to find my daughter-in-law, they are going to kill her child.’ He placed a reassuring hand on her shoulder. Your granddaughter was born ten minutes ago, I was there at the birth. She is safe, quite safe.’ ‘A girl? Where is she?’ ‘She will be taken away from here, away from this madness I will take her far from this world of vampires and valeyards. First, however, we must get you to safety.’ ‘Me?’ He took her hand. ‘Come, my dear.’--Doctor other 15:33, February 28, 2014 (UTC) This memory is faint.

This confirmed Doctor's signet ring is belonging to other, please add this to signet ring page. --Doctor other 15:36, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

Inclusion of Three in Zagreus[[edit source]]

In Zagreus (audio story), the Third Doctor appears as a "disembodied voice" in the Tardis, with the audio being taken from Devious, a fan production from which only an excerpt has been released. Would this meet the criteria for inclusion on this list ("excludes... stories featuring only pictures or archive footage of another incarnations")? PicassoAndPringles 22:53, February 28, 2014 (UTC)

The Valeyard[[edit source]]

Shouldn't the various Valeyard stories be on this list?50.46.154.250talk to me 06:09, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

I'll second this question.Cousin Zagreus 17:40, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

All-Consuming Fire[[edit source]]

I'm wondering as to why All-Consuming Fire hasn't been added to the list. It features the First, Third, and Seventh Doctors after all.--Crazyface201 01:47, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Stories that should be removed.[[edit source]]

Multi-Doctor stories are, by definition, stories where two incarnations of the Doctor cross over to share an adventure. They don't have to meet really or even be around at the same time sometimes, they just need to both be involved in the same tale. It's been agreed for a long time that regeneration stories did and do not count because they're one regeneration turning into another, and not two Doctors crossing time streams. That's why I vote for the removal of stories such as Timeslip and Fountains of Forever, both of which feature the current Doctor aging back in time by some means to briefly take on the appearances of his past incarnations. They're not cross overs or Time Travel stories, they don't feature the Doctors meeting each other, they're basically just regeneration stories in reverse. If The Tenth Planet isn't on this list, than these shouldn't be. 00:13, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

This topic has been brought up for discussion at Thread:178629 for anyone interested in taking part. Shambala108 14:57, August 28, 2015 (UTC)
That was me... Not sure why my name god cut off... OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 15:04, August 28, 2015 (UTC)


Two missing stories (as of July 2018)[[edit source]]

In “Timewyrm: Genesys” both the Fourth Doctor and Third Doctor appear as manifestations. Four is a hologram, Three is a persona that briefly inhabits the Seventh Doctor.

Additionally “Dumb Waiter” (2018 cc audio) needs adding. The Fourth Doctor appears separately from the Second but the story thus far isn’t on the list.

Need to add Fugitive of the Judoon[[edit source]]

Anyone able to do this? The table is too complex for me to fiddle with Alantogers 12:19, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

That depends on what we consider this "new Doctor". As of yet, we can't put her as a real incarnation of our known Doctor until we have further information. For all, it could all be a big twist-around. Never trust anything just as is. --DCLM 12:36, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
Indeed. As is often the case with the new series there's an arc and we need to wait for its conclusion to present accurate information. As DCLM says we need further info before we can work out which table she goes in and how it all fits together. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:28, January 28, 2020 (UTC)
Chibnall himself has said she's definitely the Doctor, and that there's no trick. But never trust what people say about something yet to come. It could be a ruse to have us distracted. As he says, she is very deliberate in the way the plot arc is going. --DCLM 13:34, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

Should fugitive recieve her own section?[[edit source]]

In much the same way that 1-15 as well as war have a seperate slot, should fugitive receieve one before 1? Right now she is just slotted as other, and while other timeless incarnations make sense there, I wonder if fugitive should recieve her own since she has appearead enough in EU (both released and upcoming if the BF box sets ever release) to count as her own distinct incarnation? She's also appeared in multiple slots on these lists so she would certainly make good use of it.

So basically the new counting would be F 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 W 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 The preceding unsigned comment was added by WILLJEUM (talk • contribs) .