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if this episode is right and it plays in the 2010ths that means that the brigadier died sometime between 2010 and 2020. | if this episode is right and it plays in the 2010ths that means that the brigadier died sometime between 2010 and 2020. | ||
thats clearly against every account for the brigadiers deathdate. | thats clearly against every account for the brigadiers deathdate. {{Unsigned-anon|188.136.12.84}} | ||
:I think you might be confused, the only thing that matters in regards to the date of the Brigadier's death and the date of the episode is that his death has to have happened before this happened. There is nothing in the episode suggesting that he died after 2010, only that he died prior to it. Even if he did need to die after 2010 (which he didn't need to) didn't "The Wedding of River Song" have him die in 2011 which would place his death in that date range anyhow. - [[User:The Light6|The Light6]] [[User talk:The Light6|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:22, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: And if you want to be strict about it, the Virgin New Adventures novels indicated that the Brigadier lived well past the mid-21st century due to some alien interference. However that's meaningless as this is ''Doctor Who'' and so he may have gone back in time at one point. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 05:17, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Four wives all deceased == | |||
Are you sure the Doctor's four wives include "Scarlette"? I'm not sure about the canonisation of the novel. Wouldn't the Doctor's first wife be whoever Susan Foreman's grandmother is? (or maybe the Tardis/Idris) [[User:Bathbomber|Bathbomber]] [[User talk:Bathbomber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:41, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
: This wiki takes into account all media. In the context of the TV series Moffat might have been leaving one open for later identification, or perhaps didn't count Marilyn at all given the Doctor didn't consider that a real marriage, but the expanded canon does have Scarlette, so barring a later episode giving an inventory, it's as valid as any other name. Does Clara actually say "deceased?" [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 05:19, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: I stand corrected. I watched the episode again and Clara does indicate the wives are deceased. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:20, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Orson Pink, Clara's great grandson == | |||
If Danny is gone for good, does that mean that Clara is pregnant? | |||
:This isn't the place to speculate about future episodes. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.52.234|68.146.52.234]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.52.234#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:21, November 9, 2014 (UTC) | |||
::It might, and it might not. We saw the Doctor's tomb that he was buried in during [[The Name of the Doctor]], but history got changed and it turned out to be an alternate timeline. Who knows what's gonna happen. [[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] ([[User talk:Stryzzar|talk]]) 10:16, November 15, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Master's "death" == | |||
If "this isn't the place to speculate about future episodes" don't you think we're presuming a lot by saying at the top of the entry that Missy is dead? It's clear that the effect used for when she "disintegrates" is the exact same one used earlier in the episode when she teleports from place to place. | |||
==Tombstone== | |||
In the first scene where Clara is wandering around the graveyard, she passes by a tombstone marked "Born 1702 _ Died 1748", I was wondering if that belonged to an important character in the past. At first I immediately thought it was Victorian Clara Oswin Oswald, but the death date is 100 years off. Any ideas? [[User:Stryzzar|Stryzzar]] [[User talk:Stryzzar|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:01, November 15, 2014 (UTC) | |||
In this episode the Doctor says that he is not a good man, nor a bad man. | |||
This reminded me that in The night of the Doctor there is this conversation about being a good man: | |||
DOCTOR: I help where I can. I will not fight. | |||
OHILA: Because you are the good man, as you call yourself? | |||
DOCTOR: I call myself the Doctor. | |||
OHILA: It's the same thing in your mind. | |||
DOCTOR: I'd like to think so. | |||
== Amy and Rory == | |||
Do you think Amy pond and her husband Rory was turned into cybermen in this episode? i mean when the angels killed them they had a tombstone but its unknown if they were actually buried under it--[[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] [[User talk:0551E80Y|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:19, December 11, 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Please note that, per [[Tardis:Discussion policy]], article talk pages are for discussing the '''editing''' of articles, not speculation or theories. If you'd like to discuss this further, you can post a topic at [[Howling:The Howling]]. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:20, December 11, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Flying Saucer == | |||
When the Doctor is being informed that he's now President of Earth, why in seven hells is he attempting to drink from the saucer rather than the teacup he was just shown tending to? |
Latest revision as of 14:15, 5 January 2024
Osgood's Mistake[[edit source]]
I was watching the sequence where the Doctor boards the plane and enters the meeting room. When the joke about Valiant and Cloudbase is mentioned, Osgood instantly says that its from Thunderbirds and was corrected by Colonel Ahmed that it was from Captain Scarlet. Should that mistake of hers go here in the Continuity section or on Osgood's page?
Smeg Head ☎ 00:37, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
- Neither. It's a cultural reference, not continuity. Digifiend Talk PR/SS KR MH Toku JD Garo TH CG UM Logos CLG DW 02:26, 9/11/2014
Glasgow University[[edit source]]
Edit: never mind. I was being really stupid. TheFartyDoctor Talk 00:07, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
Every nation's military?[[edit source]]
Kate makes the clear statement that the Doctor, as President of Earth, is Commander in Chief of the armies of every nation. For a start, fifteen countries have no standing military force and I'm sure North Korea would not agree to it...
Smeg Head ☎ 00:38, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
brigadiers deathdate[[edit source]]
if this episode is right and it plays in the 2010ths that means that the brigadier died sometime between 2010 and 2020. thats clearly against every account for the brigadiers deathdate. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 188.136.12.84 (talk).
- I think you might be confused, the only thing that matters in regards to the date of the Brigadier's death and the date of the episode is that his death has to have happened before this happened. There is nothing in the episode suggesting that he died after 2010, only that he died prior to it. Even if he did need to die after 2010 (which he didn't need to) didn't "The Wedding of River Song" have him die in 2011 which would place his death in that date range anyhow. - The Light6 ☎ 03:22, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
- And if you want to be strict about it, the Virgin New Adventures novels indicated that the Brigadier lived well past the mid-21st century due to some alien interference. However that's meaningless as this is Doctor Who and so he may have gone back in time at one point. 68.146.52.234talk to me 05:17, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
Four wives all deceased[[edit source]]
Are you sure the Doctor's four wives include "Scarlette"? I'm not sure about the canonisation of the novel. Wouldn't the Doctor's first wife be whoever Susan Foreman's grandmother is? (or maybe the Tardis/Idris) Bathbomber ☎ 04:41, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
- This wiki takes into account all media. In the context of the TV series Moffat might have been leaving one open for later identification, or perhaps didn't count Marilyn at all given the Doctor didn't consider that a real marriage, but the expanded canon does have Scarlette, so barring a later episode giving an inventory, it's as valid as any other name. Does Clara actually say "deceased?" 68.146.52.234talk to me 05:19, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. I watched the episode again and Clara does indicate the wives are deceased. 68.146.52.234talk to me 19:20, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
Orson Pink, Clara's great grandson[[edit source]]
If Danny is gone for good, does that mean that Clara is pregnant?
- This isn't the place to speculate about future episodes. 68.146.52.234talk to me 19:21, November 9, 2014 (UTC)
- It might, and it might not. We saw the Doctor's tomb that he was buried in during The Name of the Doctor, but history got changed and it turned out to be an alternate timeline. Who knows what's gonna happen. Stryzzar (talk) 10:16, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
Master's "death"[[edit source]]
If "this isn't the place to speculate about future episodes" don't you think we're presuming a lot by saying at the top of the entry that Missy is dead? It's clear that the effect used for when she "disintegrates" is the exact same one used earlier in the episode when she teleports from place to place.
Tombstone[[edit source]]
In the first scene where Clara is wandering around the graveyard, she passes by a tombstone marked "Born 1702 _ Died 1748", I was wondering if that belonged to an important character in the past. At first I immediately thought it was Victorian Clara Oswin Oswald, but the death date is 100 years off. Any ideas? Stryzzar ☎ 01:01, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
In this episode the Doctor says that he is not a good man, nor a bad man. This reminded me that in The night of the Doctor there is this conversation about being a good man: DOCTOR: I help where I can. I will not fight. OHILA: Because you are the good man, as you call yourself? DOCTOR: I call myself the Doctor. OHILA: It's the same thing in your mind. DOCTOR: I'd like to think so.
Amy and Rory[[edit source]]
Do you think Amy pond and her husband Rory was turned into cybermen in this episode? i mean when the angels killed them they had a tombstone but its unknown if they were actually buried under it--0551E80Y ☎ 07:19, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
- Please note that, per Tardis:Discussion policy, article talk pages are for discussing the editing of articles, not speculation or theories. If you'd like to discuss this further, you can post a topic at Howling:The Howling. Thanks. Shambala108 ☎ 14:20, December 11, 2014 (UTC)
Flying Saucer[[edit source]]
When the Doctor is being informed that he's now President of Earth, why in seven hells is he attempting to drink from the saucer rather than the teacup he was just shown tending to?