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:One of our other admins is supposed to be working on a prototype for media releases pages, but I have no idea if he's making any progress. For now, it's probably best to leave things as they are, otherwise you might end up doing a lot of hard work that could potentially be unnecessary. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:19, June 27, 2015 (UTC) | :One of our other admins is supposed to be working on a prototype for media releases pages, but I have no idea if he's making any progress. For now, it's probably best to leave things as they are, otherwise you might end up doing a lot of hard work that could potentially be unnecessary. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:19, June 27, 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Thanks. Then I leave it as is.[[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:05, July 18, 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Telesnaps of Episode 4. == | |||
Presumably, the removal of the comment about the lack of telesnaps was due to the discovery of the video of the whole episode. So the fact remains true: telesnaps have not been found. But whether this fact is still relevant now that the episode is not missing anymore is a question. I would say that this fact remains relevant '''only''' if it is known that telesnaps for all other episodes (missing or not) exist, or at least if it is known that telesnaps exist for all first-doctor and second-doctor stories. Then the lack of telesnaps for this one episode is strange and, hence, potentially significant. I don't think telesnaps are normally mentioned in Tardis Data Core for episodes that are not missing, so I don't know what their status is for the preserved/recovered episodes.[[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:14, July 18, 2015 (UTC) | |||
:After some poking around, it turns out that there are other missing episodes without surviving telesnaps, e.g., the 4th episode of [[Marco Polo (TV story)|Marco Polo]]. Seemingly, most surviving/recovered serials have no mention of telesnaps whatsoever (I made a non-representative checking in the 1st season). But sometimes, even for them, it is commented that telesnaps exist for some but not all of the episodes (e.g., [[The Daleks (TV story)|The Daleks]]). So the fact that there are telesnaps of some episodes but not of others does not seem to be surprising in any way and is not treated as such in other stories. For instance, telesnaps for Marco Polo have been retrieved from the private collection of its director, but no question is asked why he did not have them for all the episodes. Thus, I tend to agree with 188.173.163.39 that this small tidbit can be safely deleted. If not, however, I would at least propose to rephrase it to state the fact, something like "Telesnaps exist for all episodes, with the exception of episode four."[[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:00, July 20, 2015 (UTC) | |||
Might be better to say no telesnaps '''had''' be found until the episode itself was recovered. [[User:Silent Hunter UK|Silent Hunter UK]] [[User talk:Silent Hunter UK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:40, July 24, 2015 (UTC) | |||
::"For instance, telesnaps for Marco Polo have been retrieved from the private collection of its director, but no question is asked why he did not have them for all the episodes." It's well known that as Waris Hussein only directed 6 of the 7 episodes of Marco Polo, he only obtained copies of the telesnaps for his episodes. [[Special:Contributions/165.225.80.59|165.225.80.59]]<sup>[[User talk:165.225.80.59#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:13, August 9, 2016 (UTC) | |||
== "Only Story" == | |||
Okay, so it states that enemy of the world is the only story of season 5 that doesn't follow the "Base under Siege" format, but What about Tomb of the cybermen? I know some people class that as a Base under siege, but my understanding of a base under siege is that the characters are all in a Base, and the villain is trying to get in, that's what the word "Siege" implies, but in tomb of the Cybermen, the villains are already inside the base (which the tomb can only be called by an extremely loose description), and it's the heroes that are intruding in on it. As a result, I do not think that Tomb of the cybermen can be classed as a "Base under Siege" and thus enemy of the world is not the only exception to "the Base under siege" format in season 5. {{Unsigned|Blartyboy}} |
Latest revision as of 16:41, 18 October 2023
Continuity[[edit source]]
I removed the following as it is incorrect: Salamander was sucked into the Vorftex, not outerspace.
- Salamander is sucked into space when the TARDIS dematerializes with the doors open. This is contradicted by TV: The Edge of Destruction, The Runaway Bride, The Stolen Earth and other stories in which the TARDIS is shown in space with its doors open, with no ill-effects to the occupants.
- → Koschei:
- Life. But not as we know it. 07:51, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
David Troughton[[edit source]]
Okay: I've watched the recovered episodes Five and Six several times now, and I simply cannot spot David Troughton anywhere in them. Am I going blind? Leda74 ☎ 22:56, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Hang on, lemme check. He's supposed to be a guard in Part 5. Cult Of Skaro Here.|Communicate here. 22:58, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
- He's in episode 5, about 14 minutes in. He's the guard that accompanies Benik to interrogate Jamie and Victoria. He gets punched in the gut by Jamie. The best time to see his face is right after he and Benik enter the room.
- I haven't been able to spot him in episode 6 yet, but there is one scene where a guard is escorting Jamie and Victoria out of the research center that might be him, or maybe in the large group of guards that arrest Benik later. Shambala108 ☎ 17:05, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
Date[[edit source]]
There is no mention in the story of the date 2018. The permit in the helicopter states that it expires in 2018; that does not guarantee that the story takes place in that year. Unless someone can provide some proof of the date in the story, it will not be added back in. Shambala108 ☎ 02:23, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
- In episode 5, there is a closeup of a newspaper marked 2017. This newspaper is described as 'last year's.' Cult Of Skaro Here.|Communicate here. 02:26, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I must have missed it during my search for David Troughton. Shambala108 ☎ 02:51, October 20, 2013 (UTC)
Home Video and Audio Releases categorization proposed[[edit source]]
I think it might make sense to further break Home Video and Audio Releases into subsection according to the type of release. By now, there are at least three different things: DVD releases, audio CD releases, and iTunes releases. At the moment, the gallery of images looks like a pile.Amorkuz ☎ 21:33, June 25, 2015 (UTC)
- One of our other admins is supposed to be working on a prototype for media releases pages, but I have no idea if he's making any progress. For now, it's probably best to leave things as they are, otherwise you might end up doing a lot of hard work that could potentially be unnecessary. Shambala108 ☎ 02:19, June 27, 2015 (UTC)
Telesnaps of Episode 4.[[edit source]]
Presumably, the removal of the comment about the lack of telesnaps was due to the discovery of the video of the whole episode. So the fact remains true: telesnaps have not been found. But whether this fact is still relevant now that the episode is not missing anymore is a question. I would say that this fact remains relevant only if it is known that telesnaps for all other episodes (missing or not) exist, or at least if it is known that telesnaps exist for all first-doctor and second-doctor stories. Then the lack of telesnaps for this one episode is strange and, hence, potentially significant. I don't think telesnaps are normally mentioned in Tardis Data Core for episodes that are not missing, so I don't know what their status is for the preserved/recovered episodes.Amorkuz ☎ 17:14, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
- After some poking around, it turns out that there are other missing episodes without surviving telesnaps, e.g., the 4th episode of Marco Polo. Seemingly, most surviving/recovered serials have no mention of telesnaps whatsoever (I made a non-representative checking in the 1st season). But sometimes, even for them, it is commented that telesnaps exist for some but not all of the episodes (e.g., The Daleks). So the fact that there are telesnaps of some episodes but not of others does not seem to be surprising in any way and is not treated as such in other stories. For instance, telesnaps for Marco Polo have been retrieved from the private collection of its director, but no question is asked why he did not have them for all the episodes. Thus, I tend to agree with 188.173.163.39 that this small tidbit can be safely deleted. If not, however, I would at least propose to rephrase it to state the fact, something like "Telesnaps exist for all episodes, with the exception of episode four."Amorkuz ☎ 00:00, July 20, 2015 (UTC)
Might be better to say no telesnaps had be found until the episode itself was recovered. Silent Hunter UK ☎ 18:40, July 24, 2015 (UTC)
- "For instance, telesnaps for Marco Polo have been retrieved from the private collection of its director, but no question is asked why he did not have them for all the episodes." It's well known that as Waris Hussein only directed 6 of the 7 episodes of Marco Polo, he only obtained copies of the telesnaps for his episodes. 165.225.80.59talk to me 13:13, August 9, 2016 (UTC)
"Only Story"[[edit source]]
Okay, so it states that enemy of the world is the only story of season 5 that doesn't follow the "Base under Siege" format, but What about Tomb of the cybermen? I know some people class that as a Base under siege, but my understanding of a base under siege is that the characters are all in a Base, and the villain is trying to get in, that's what the word "Siege" implies, but in tomb of the Cybermen, the villains are already inside the base (which the tomb can only be called by an extremely loose description), and it's the heroes that are intruding in on it. As a result, I do not think that Tomb of the cybermen can be classed as a "Base under Siege" and thus enemy of the world is not the only exception to "the Base under siege" format in season 5. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blartyboy (talk • contribs) .