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ROFL! "The episode, judging by the title, will probably feature some dead guys on a planet." That's rich. I don't have the heart to correct it.[[User:RaquelApplegate|RaquelApplegate]] 10:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


== Update ==
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I've cleaned up, linked, and categorized this story. And created a new category in the process, too. --[[User:Golden Monkey|Golden Monkey]] 22:16, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
== 2009 or 2010? ==


I know we had an unfinished conversation three years ago. It can be found [[Talk:Planet_of_the_Dead_(TV_story)/Archive_1#Contemporary_Setting_-_c._.28October.3F.29_2009.3F|here]]. Unless it was brought up at the forums, there never seemed to be a consensus. I noticed that, at the moment, the setting in listed as 2010 in the infobox. The [[Planet of the Dead (TV story)|page itself]] says the following:
* This story refers to the events of when the Earth is transported to the Medusa Cascade that took place in May - June 2009, based on novel information, which would place it in 2010; however, controversy errupted with [[TV]]: ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]'' taking place on Christmas 2009, placing this story in Easter 2009, before the Medusa Cascade incident. Unfortunately, there are many reasons this story cannot take place after ''The End of Time'', some of which are Naismith's status and the worldwide recession. The writers or producers have not addressed the dating issue. Some fans believe what date novels give should only be taken with a grain of salt if it disturbs on-screen continuity.
So... If the decision was already made, please say so here and what the conclusion was. If we still haven't reached a conclusion, then we need to discuss it all over again. [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:00, February 3, 2013 (UTC)


== Companions==
:That isn't the only discussion concerning dating.
:See [[Talk:2009]], [[Talk:Series 3 (Torchwood)/Archive 1#Date]], [[Forum:Timeline Clarification Questions]] and [[Forum:"Children of Earth" takes place in late 2009: confirm/deny?]]. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 16:03, February 5, 2013 (UTC)


Why are there two ramdom charecters down as companions?
== Theme song easter egg ==


In the commentary RTD only says that they appear he never says that they are companions.
Anonymous tip: Listen to the opening theme, the standard "1-2" drumbeat that's usually in the background has changed. Instead of the single drum, four drums in quick succession occur. Sound familiar? (I verified this on the DVD, listening to the theme that played on the menu and then the theme that played in the actual episode). I didn't edit it in myself since I'd rather other people double-checked before adding. This may or may not occur in other episodes too, I'm not sure.


:Haven't heard it myself, but I'll remove then just now [[User:Jack's the man|Jack's]] [[User talk:Jack's the man|the]] [[Special:Contributions/Jack's the man|man]] - 23:43, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
== I just watched Planet of the Dead on Netflix ==
Odd, because a few months ago I remember watching episodes on Netflix and Planet of the Dead wasn't there. But I've been re-watching them with my girlfriend, and we watched Planet of the Dead. (I'm in the US, by the way.) Anyone know why or when it changed?
--[[User:Chaoseed|Chaoseed]] [[User talk:Chaoseed|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:04, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
:What change are you wondering about? A change in the episode? [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:43, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
::"This episode is one of two full-length episodes missing from Netflix' run of the show. The other missing episode is A Christmas Carol."--[[User:Chaoseed|Chaoseed]] [[User talk:Chaoseed|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:25, August 16, 2014 (UTC)


== Rumours ==
== Uncredited cast ==


Before The Next Doctor was broadcasted, a rumour link was sent up on the article pages and a message was inserted that you could only add rumour if there was proof could an admin do that to this page, it would help to root some really stupid rumours. [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 05:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Should not be returned back to the page until a source is found.
* I don't know if it's always necessary to have a source for rumours, as this could include widespread fan-forum rumours which are difficult to cite. However I do think some common sense has to come into play. For example I just deleted a rather spurious rumour -- one I've yet to see anywhere else -- suggesting that simply because it's a modern day story, the Brigadier and even Benton or Yates could appear. That could be said of any modern-day Who story; absolutely nothing notable. The only companion to have been rumored is Martha and only because a tabloid reported she may appear in ''one'' of the specials. Personally I think she'll be involved in the lead-up to regeneration, not get burned off on an early special where clearly the focus will be on Michelle Ryan's character, anyway (especially if the related rumour that she's companion-in-waiting for Matt Smith bears fruit). [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 19:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
* [[June Campbell Davies]] - [[Controller (Planet of the Dead)|Traffic Controller]]
 
[[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]]
::Should the article be protected against unregistered user edits? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 04:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::It might not hurt, if it gets overloaded with nonsense. But I don't know if it's gotten that bad yet. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 20:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::The Brigadier rumour popped up again and I deleted it and I might delete the stuff about Michelle Ryan being Jenny or the Rani and replace it with someone from his past [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 11:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::Why are people putting in rumours on things that have been confirmed. Such as "Professor Malcoms" second name being Taylor. This has been confirmed so why have it in the rumours section. Catkind121 12:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Synopsis and Enemy ==
 
Where did the information for the Synopsis and the enemy come from, it sounds suspect so I'm going to remove it
 
== Dubai controversy ==
Right now mentioning the Dubai filming controversy in "Story Notes" is probably good enough, but we should be prepared to make it its own section -- perhaps even its own article -- if the brouhaha gets big. We should make sure, though, that if anyone adds quotes, etc. connected to this topic that they be accompanied by sources - no generic "RTD said last week..." type comments. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 16:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Species/Enemy==
Where are the sources for all 3 enemies - Zarbi, Nimons and Tritovores ?? And why are they in the main enemy box list ? Until I see a source I'm deleting them. Michael Downey
* Nothing's been announced officially, although the Tritovore name has been mentioned I believe by RTD; a source related to this would be authoritative. The others are still rumors. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 20:00, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
The Name may have been mentioned by RTD but their is no official conformation that he has said it or announced that their this stories enemy so for the last time i am deleting and if i see it again unless with sources the person who placed it will be blocked. [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 19:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:I think the Zarbi and Nimon rumors started with the announcement of the title of the episode, due to associations with deaths and destroying planets (or some such.)
 
:All three of these rumors strike me as unlikely given the promise of two new alien species from RTD - which unlike these things I have seen sourced.  But these things definitely don't belong.--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 00:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:By the way RTD did say that there will be aliens called Tritovorse's in the story he also said he wished to call it Planet of the Zarbi. [[User:Catkind121|Catkind121]] 13:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::Where/when does he say this?  --[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 04:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::In the Commentary for [[The Next Doctor]] so you can be quiet about that one. [[User:Catkind121|Catkind121]] 11:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Except that RTD is clearly '''joking''' in the commentary to TND . . . '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]'''  [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 16:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==Billie Piper's accent==
I took out an uncalled for and completely unsourced bit of POV weasel wording regarding Piper's accent in Turn Left. The fact critics and fans noticed the lisp hsa been covered (wouldn't hurt to include a source, though the episode itself can be used as a source), but the statement that she sounded like a "chav" not only crosses the line potentially with whatever the Wikia equivalent of Wikipedia's BLP policy is, but it's an utterly meaningless term to anyone outside England. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 19:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 
::I haven't seen the actual item you're referring to, so I have no idea if this is actually relevant or not, but in the episode [[New Earth (TV story)]], [[Cassandra]] takes over Rose's body, and upon examining her body, clothes, and accent declares, "[My god], I'm a chav!"  The first two words may not be exact, but they convey the point.
 
::Like I said, relevant or not, I've no idea.  Take the information for whatever value it has.--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 01:05, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Hey I nominated that for Quote of the week but I frazed it wrongly I put "Oh My God I am a Chav" [[User:Catkind121|Catkind121]] 13:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Since posting my original note I've found out what chav means (sort of a variation of "emo" it seems). And if the accent is identified as "chav" in an episode, that's cool, but it was still irrelevant to this article. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 02:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Chavs are not Emo's Catkind121 09:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
==Return of the Rani rumour?==
So it's been pointed out that "Lady Christina De Souza" is an anagram of "Lady C.D.Souza Is The Rani". Which has lead to the rumour that Michelle Ryan will be the new Rani.  Should this be listed under the rumour section?  I have no idea where it originated from, but it is a correct (if sort of weak) anagram.  And we know the Doctor who production team is fond of anagrams (torchwood anyone?).  Plus the idea of the Rani returning has been a popular theory ever since we saw a shot of a hand picking up a ring from the remains of the Master's ashes.  [[Special:Contributions/74.184.32.187|74.184.32.187]] 20:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 
This is covered by the first rumour [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 04:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Filming Locations ==
 
What appears to be a quote box has been added under Filming Locations.  It reads as follows:
 
The darkness grows and the light is your heart. You for one are my tears and I am your happiness. Never let the summer wind blows in the stench of pure crap die. I am the night when pigs fly and the day when your are here. Never leave me. Never run.  run
 
 
I have for now removed it, as it is certainly in the wrong section if not outright vandalism. 
 
Does the page need to be locked until after it airs next week?--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 19:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 
By the Way I dont think we should lock it. But people are editing it and putting a putting what basically is a synopsis in the plot section. I have changed all that anyway. Catkind121 12:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 
==Pitch Black, anyone?==
I've just seen the BBC advert for this, and I have to say it reminds me of the sci-fi horror film which came out in 2000, Pitch Black. And the resemblences are more than superficial. Several people stranded on a desert planet that has three suns, pursued by strange flying entities? I mean, honestly. The tacky CGI monsters I glimpsed in the ad look ridiculously like the tacky CGI/prosthetic monsters form the film. Anyone else know where I'm coming from? --[[User:Solbur|Solbur]] 19:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

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2009 or 2010?[[edit source]]

I know we had an unfinished conversation three years ago. It can be found here. Unless it was brought up at the forums, there never seemed to be a consensus. I noticed that, at the moment, the setting in listed as 2010 in the infobox. The page itself says the following:

  • This story refers to the events of when the Earth is transported to the Medusa Cascade that took place in May - June 2009, based on novel information, which would place it in 2010; however, controversy errupted with TV: The End of Time taking place on Christmas 2009, placing this story in Easter 2009, before the Medusa Cascade incident. Unfortunately, there are many reasons this story cannot take place after The End of Time, some of which are Naismith's status and the worldwide recession. The writers or producers have not addressed the dating issue. Some fans believe what date novels give should only be taken with a grain of salt if it disturbs on-screen continuity.

So... If the decision was already made, please say so here and what the conclusion was. If we still haven't reached a conclusion, then we need to discuss it all over again. SmallerOnTheOutside ☎ 15:00, February 3, 2013 (UTC)

That isn't the only discussion concerning dating.
See Talk:2009, Talk:Series 3 (Torchwood)/Archive 1#Date, Forum:Timeline Clarification Questions and Forum:"Children of Earth" takes place in late 2009: confirm/deny?. --Tangerineduel / talk 16:03, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Theme song easter egg[[edit source]]

Anonymous tip: Listen to the opening theme, the standard "1-2" drumbeat that's usually in the background has changed. Instead of the single drum, four drums in quick succession occur. Sound familiar? (I verified this on the DVD, listening to the theme that played on the menu and then the theme that played in the actual episode). I didn't edit it in myself since I'd rather other people double-checked before adding. This may or may not occur in other episodes too, I'm not sure.

I just watched Planet of the Dead on Netflix[[edit source]]

Odd, because a few months ago I remember watching episodes on Netflix and Planet of the Dead wasn't there. But I've been re-watching them with my girlfriend, and we watched Planet of the Dead. (I'm in the US, by the way.) Anyone know why or when it changed? --Chaoseed ☎ 07:04, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

What change are you wondering about? A change in the episode? Shambala108 ☎ 15:43, August 15, 2014 (UTC)
"This episode is one of two full-length episodes missing from Netflix' run of the show. The other missing episode is A Christmas Carol."--Chaoseed ☎ 20:25, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Uncredited cast[[edit source]]

Should not be returned back to the page until a source is found.

Amorkuz ☎

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