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In reference to Doug86's deletion of a comment on the article side of this page from IP user 81.158.1.189 he said that "fan speculation does not belong on this wiki". Don't we regularly see fan speculation in the rumor sections of upcoming episodes? And wouldn't it be better to move speculation to the discussion page than delete the content and squash what could be an interesting debate from occurring? --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 01:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
In reference to Doug86's deletion of a comment on the article side of this page from IP user 81.158.1.189 he said that "fan speculation does not belong on this wiki". Don't we regularly see fan speculation in the rumor sections of upcoming episodes? And wouldn't it be better to move speculation to the discussion page than delete the content and squash what could be an interesting debate from occurring? --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 01:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 
Does anyone else believe that The Trickster could be a warped Time Lord, disfigured after the Last Great Time War? Just a theory? --[[User:Dante91]] 00.12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 
There is not enough proof to determine if the Trickster is a Time Lord, and besides, the recent information the Doctor gave us indicates he was a member of the Pantheon of Discord. --[[User:Chicken Bond|Chicken Bond]] 20:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
does anyone think that the trickster is similar to the cracks in time from series 5 of doctor who because they can both erase things from time and the doctor says about there being a trickster in the pandorica opens - Ashdude01 21:48 19 June 2010
 
 
 
The trickster is possibly one of the [[eternal]]s as he says :Effemeral minds are so limited. Note that the eternals referred to non-eternals as Effemerals in [[Enlightenment]].[[User:Invictus152|Invictus152]] 08:33, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
== So much speculation afoot! ==
 
When the Doctor said "an eternal exile", he was not saying that the Trickster was an Eternal, just someone who is exiled eternally.[[User:Zythe|Zythe]] 02:48, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
:While there seems to have been a bit of debate five years ago whether or not we allow speculation on talk pages, at this point we do '''not''' allow speculation or theories on any talk or forum pages. See [[Tardis:Discussion policy]] for details. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:27, October 15, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Love and War reference==
Is it confirmed that the individual featured in the Love and War novel is the same as that featured in Turn Left and SJA? If that's the case, shouldn't Paul Cornell receive screen credit for creating him? It is possible for there to be more than one character with the same name across the Whoniverse. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:28, November 18, 2020 (UTC)
 
== Eternal? ==
 
In ''[[The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith (TV story)|The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith]]'' the Doctor refers to the Trickster as an "Eternal exile". Could this be evidence that he is indeed an Eternal? Or how else could this description be taken?
 
[[User:StevieGLiverpool|StevieGLiverpool]] [[User talk:StevieGLiverpool|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
:: If that was the intended meaning, you'd expect "an exiled Eternal". "An eternal exile" should instead be read, ''prima facie'', as meaning "an entity in an eternal, i.e. perpetual/never-ending, state of exile". If official closed captions capitalised 'Eternal' that would be evidence otherwise, but not everything that is "eternal" has to do with the capital-E Eternals. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 23:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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Is "rani" referenced in this article, "the rani"?


In reference to Doug86's deletion of a comment on the article side of this page from IP user 81.158.1.189 he said that "fan speculation does not belong on this wiki". Don't we regularly see fan speculation in the rumor sections of upcoming episodes? And wouldn't it be better to move speculation to the discussion page than delete the content and squash what could be an interesting debate from occurring? --Raukodraug 01:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone else believe that The Trickster could be a warped Time Lord, disfigured after the Last Great Time War? Just a theory? --User:Dante91 00.12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

There is not enough proof to determine if the Trickster is a Time Lord, and besides, the recent information the Doctor gave us indicates he was a member of the Pantheon of Discord. --Chicken Bond 20:44, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

does anyone think that the trickster is similar to the cracks in time from series 5 of doctor who because they can both erase things from time and the doctor says about there being a trickster in the pandorica opens - Ashdude01 21:48 19 June 2010


The trickster is possibly one of the eternals as he says :Effemeral minds are so limited. Note that the eternals referred to non-eternals as Effemerals in Enlightenment.Invictus152 08:33, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

So much speculation afoot![[edit]]

When the Doctor said "an eternal exile", he was not saying that the Trickster was an Eternal, just someone who is exiled eternally.Zythe 02:48, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

While there seems to have been a bit of debate five years ago whether or not we allow speculation on talk pages, at this point we do not allow speculation or theories on any talk or forum pages. See Tardis:Discussion policy for details. Shambala108 20:27, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Love and War reference[[edit]]

Is it confirmed that the individual featured in the Love and War novel is the same as that featured in Turn Left and SJA? If that's the case, shouldn't Paul Cornell receive screen credit for creating him? It is possible for there to be more than one character with the same name across the Whoniverse. 23skidoo 20:28, November 18, 2020 (UTC)

Eternal?[[edit]]

In The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith the Doctor refers to the Trickster as an "Eternal exile". Could this be evidence that he is indeed an Eternal? Or how else could this description be taken?

StevieGLiverpool 15:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

If that was the intended meaning, you'd expect "an exiled Eternal". "An eternal exile" should instead be read, prima facie, as meaning "an entity in an eternal, i.e. perpetual/never-ending, state of exile". If official closed captions capitalised 'Eternal' that would be evidence otherwise, but not everything that is "eternal" has to do with the capital-E Eternals. Scrooge MacDuck 23:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)