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Hi! Please make sure you review [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]], as your edit at [[Peter Harness]] included a major spoiler. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:24, November 4, 2015 (UTC) | Hi! Please make sure you review [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]], as your edit at [[Peter Harness]] included a major spoiler. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:24, November 4, 2015 (UTC) | ||
: Sure. --[[User:IrasCignavojo|IrasCignavojo]] [[User talk:IrasCignavojo#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:12, November 5, 2015 (UTC) | : Sure. --[[User:IrasCignavojo|IrasCignavojo]] [[User talk:IrasCignavojo#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:12, November 5, 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Page moves == | |||
Hi! Please note that, per [[Thread:128198]], only admins are allowed to move pages. Please see the thread post for reasons why and for alternatives for users. Your page move to Reverend Wainwright violates our naming policies, and I will have to clean up after it when I have time. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:30, November 25, 2015 (UTC) | |||
: Hi Shambala. I've read the thread (now) and the page for the ((rename)) template, which is the one I would and probably should use then, because it *would* be better and more reasonable, to have a family name page under the family name, instead one of many characters with that faamily name, who isn't even the only one where only this name is given (at least he also has the title as honorific with it). The minimum would be a link to a disambig page on the top - where you would habe "Name (family name)" or somesuch as lemma? While I completely understand, that a wiki with so many articles, registered editors and cross references needs rules to work, sometimes they seem a little far from self-explanatory. --[[User:IrasCignavojo|IrasCignavojo]] [[User talk:IrasCignavojo#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:24, November 25, 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Refusis == | |||
Hey :) Thanks for your suggestion. | |||
I really feel you on this one. And a part of me just wants to re-create the redirect and move on. | |||
But it's important to consider what the effect on ''both'' the readers and the editors will be. | |||
There's absolutely no question but that the proper name of the planet is Refusis II. It's referred to as "Refusis II" from the first time it's mentioned, at about 16'25" into "[[The Steel Sky]]". And while the numeral does disappear after that, it also returns. So it's hard to write it off as a production error in episode 1 that isn't made in later episodes. It's more just that the characters are dropping the II as an act of colloquialism. Moreover, subsequent works like ''[[The Last Dodo (novel)|The Last Dodo]]'' also confirm that the name is "Refusis II". | |||
That said, the novelisation completely omits the numeral. And while the Tardis Wiki does generally think that all stories in all media are equal, an exception to that is when a novelisation contradicts a TV story. This is because novelisations were often written without the author being able to reference the TV episode as filmed. As you may realise, if a novel was written in the 1970s or 1980s, the chances of actually being able to view a 1960s episode were pretty slim. So errors can and do frequently creep into the novelisations of the original series. In such a case as this, we're effectively obliged to discount contradictory information in the novelisation as '''false information'''. | |||
So, according to our local policies here at Tardis, the name of the planet, across equally-weighted sources, is "Refusis II". | |||
Does this actually disadvantage Twitch viewers and other casual readers of the site? Though I could be wrong, I don't ''think'' it does. When you type in "refu" to any of our search bars, the only thing using the whole of the word "Refusis" is "Refusis II". So what else would a reasonable reader click on? | |||
On the other hand, if we allowed "Refusis" back, editors could use that as a valid redirect in their articles, and so we could unintentionally propagate the error of the novelisation. And I'd rather not do that. | |||
So I'm not inclined to re-add the redirect. | |||
What I ''have'' done, though, is to add a note to [[Refusis II|the page]] which I hope will clarify things. So you've helped to improve our coverage here! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:03: Mon 14 Jan 2019</span> |
Latest revision as of 22:03, 14 January 2019
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Spoilers[[edit source]]
Hi! Please make sure you review Tardis:Spoiler policy, as your edit at Peter Harness included a major spoiler. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 15:24, November 4, 2015 (UTC)
- Sure. --IrasCignavojo ☎ 01:12, November 5, 2015 (UTC)
Page moves[[edit source]]
Hi! Please note that, per Thread:128198, only admins are allowed to move pages. Please see the thread post for reasons why and for alternatives for users. Your page move to Reverend Wainwright violates our naming policies, and I will have to clean up after it when I have time. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 14:30, November 25, 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Shambala. I've read the thread (now) and the page for the ((rename)) template, which is the one I would and probably should use then, because it *would* be better and more reasonable, to have a family name page under the family name, instead one of many characters with that faamily name, who isn't even the only one where only this name is given (at least he also has the title as honorific with it). The minimum would be a link to a disambig page on the top - where you would habe "Name (family name)" or somesuch as lemma? While I completely understand, that a wiki with so many articles, registered editors and cross references needs rules to work, sometimes they seem a little far from self-explanatory. --IrasCignavojo ☎ 17:24, November 25, 2015 (UTC)
Refusis[[edit source]]
Hey :) Thanks for your suggestion.
I really feel you on this one. And a part of me just wants to re-create the redirect and move on.
But it's important to consider what the effect on both the readers and the editors will be.
There's absolutely no question but that the proper name of the planet is Refusis II. It's referred to as "Refusis II" from the first time it's mentioned, at about 16'25" into "The Steel Sky". And while the numeral does disappear after that, it also returns. So it's hard to write it off as a production error in episode 1 that isn't made in later episodes. It's more just that the characters are dropping the II as an act of colloquialism. Moreover, subsequent works like The Last Dodo also confirm that the name is "Refusis II".
That said, the novelisation completely omits the numeral. And while the Tardis Wiki does generally think that all stories in all media are equal, an exception to that is when a novelisation contradicts a TV story. This is because novelisations were often written without the author being able to reference the TV episode as filmed. As you may realise, if a novel was written in the 1970s or 1980s, the chances of actually being able to view a 1960s episode were pretty slim. So errors can and do frequently creep into the novelisations of the original series. In such a case as this, we're effectively obliged to discount contradictory information in the novelisation as false information.
So, according to our local policies here at Tardis, the name of the planet, across equally-weighted sources, is "Refusis II".
Does this actually disadvantage Twitch viewers and other casual readers of the site? Though I could be wrong, I don't think it does. When you type in "refu" to any of our search bars, the only thing using the whole of the word "Refusis" is "Refusis II". So what else would a reasonable reader click on?
On the other hand, if we allowed "Refusis" back, editors could use that as a valid redirect in their articles, and so we could unintentionally propagate the error of the novelisation. And I'd rather not do that.
So I'm not inclined to re-add the redirect.
What I have done, though, is to add a note to the page which I hope will clarify things. So you've helped to improve our coverage here!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 22:03: Mon 14 Jan 2019