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I just thought I would get some people's opinions on this matter. Many people are concerned with the | I just thought I would get some people's opinions on this matter. Many people are concerned with the history of the Daleks so I figured this would be somewhat easier to figure out. The [[Cybermen]] come from the [[twin planet]] [[Mondas]], yet ''[[The World Shapers]]'' comic explains that the [[Voord]] of [[Marinus]] turned into Cybermen and Marinus became Mondas. Is it possible the comic can fit into continuity or can there be parallel evolution involved, since it is ''possible'' for the Voord to be converted into Cybermen? -- [[User:Steed]] 02 May, 2009 24:15 | ||
While it is possible for them to fit in one continuity the has never been any on-screen evidense to suggest this. The main reason it is unlikley that [[Marinus]] world become an exact parallel of [[Earth]] as was stated in [[The Tenth Planet]] if I remember correctly .- | |||
[[User:Assassin of death|Assassin of death]] 12:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
If you think Cybermen continuity is simple, you haven't read David Banks' book ''Cybermen''. (Somewhere on the net, someone reduced his history to one big graphical family tree plus time-travel arrows, which is a handy place to start.) | |||
Anyway, the comic explicitly says that the Voord became _the_ Cybermen, of Mondas, not just that they became Cybermen. Parallel evolution is obviously plausible, as John Lumic proved, but two different planets can't both evolve into the same twin Earth. So you can't get around the contradiction that way. (Also, it contradicts the Voord becoming the Remote, although it's just barely plausible that some of them became Cybermen and some avoided conversion and became the Remote). | |||
But it's hard to rule out a DWM comic just because an NA, a PDA, a BFA, and an IDW comic disagree with it, especially when they also disagree with each other, and none of them directly contradict anything on TV. And in the Whoniverse, it's always possible that one history superceded another, so maybe ''The World Shapers'' was true at one point, but later ''Spare Parts'' became true. --[[Special:Contributions/173.228.85.118|173.228.85.118]] 07:11, August 11, 2011 (UTC) | |||
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I just thought I would get some people's opinions on this matter. Many people are concerned with the history of the Daleks so I figured this would be somewhat easier to figure out. The Cybermen come from the twin planet Mondas, yet The World Shapers comic explains that the Voord of Marinus turned into Cybermen and Marinus became Mondas. Is it possible the comic can fit into continuity or can there be parallel evolution involved, since it is possible for the Voord to be converted into Cybermen? -- User:Steed 02 May, 2009 24:15
While it is possible for them to fit in one continuity the has never been any on-screen evidense to suggest this. The main reason it is unlikley that Marinus world become an exact parallel of Earth as was stated in The Tenth Planet if I remember correctly .-
Assassin of death 12:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
If you think Cybermen continuity is simple, you haven't read David Banks' book Cybermen. (Somewhere on the net, someone reduced his history to one big graphical family tree plus time-travel arrows, which is a handy place to start.)
Anyway, the comic explicitly says that the Voord became _the_ Cybermen, of Mondas, not just that they became Cybermen. Parallel evolution is obviously plausible, as John Lumic proved, but two different planets can't both evolve into the same twin Earth. So you can't get around the contradiction that way. (Also, it contradicts the Voord becoming the Remote, although it's just barely plausible that some of them became Cybermen and some avoided conversion and became the Remote).
But it's hard to rule out a DWM comic just because an NA, a PDA, a BFA, and an IDW comic disagree with it, especially when they also disagree with each other, and none of them directly contradict anything on TV. And in the Whoniverse, it's always possible that one history superceded another, so maybe The World Shapers was true at one point, but later Spare Parts became true. --173.228.85.118 07:11, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
