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Is he actually a shape-changer? I thought it was just a type of holographic illusion. -[[User:Azes13|Azes13]]
Is he actually a shape-changer? I thought it was just a type of holographic illusion. -[[User:Azes13|Azes13]]
Turlough asks this inThe Crystal Bucephalus, and it is cobfirmed Kamelion genuinely changes


== Prop's current whereabouts ==
== Prop's current whereabouts ==
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I know that he only appeared in a deleted scene in this story, but you can still watch it on DVD and it was supposed to be on T.V., and there's no reason why it can't be canon so can we include the Awakening on Kamelion's appearence list.{{Unsigned|Fireball99}}
I know that he only appeared in a deleted scene in this story, but you can still watch it on DVD and it was supposed to be on T.V., and there's no reason why it can't be canon so can we include the Awakening on Kamelion's appearence list.{{Unsigned|Fireball99}}
:Actually, there's a very good reason why it can't be included — a forum decision decided that deleted scenes are not to be included on [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in universe]] articles. Please see [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and [[Forum:Are deleted scenes canon?]]. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:50, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, there's a very good reason why it can't be included — a forum decision decided that deleted scenes are not to be included on [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in universe]] articles. Please see [[Tardis:Valid sources]] and [[Forum:Are deleted scenes canon?]]. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:50, October 18, 2014 (UTC)
== Missing info ==
This page is missing info from "devil in the mist" "power game", and "black thursday"
[[User:GarfielfStuff|GarfielfStuff]] [[User talk:GarfielfStuff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:46, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
== Masterful ==
I've seen discuzsions online, people are confused as to whether Kamelion is in this, or just another one (or maybe two) of his kind. John Culshaw doesn't use his Getald Flood voice
:: Well I can’t speak to whether Culshaw’s Kamelion voice is the same as the Fifth Doctor trilogy (as I haven’t heard the trilogy), but there isn’t any indication in ''Masterful'' that it isn’t the original Kamelion in the story. The Masters seem to treat it as the Kamelion they’re familiar with. [[User:SherlockTheII|SherlockTheII]] [[User talk:SherlockTheII|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:14, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Not only does Culshaw not use the Gerald Flood voice, but there also seems to be two Kamelions in the story. One gets killed off and the other takes over his role in the story. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it thing but unless Kamelion can be in two places at once there’s definitely more than one. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:18, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
: Given that he's with the Unbound Master in the bonus scene, I assumed he was from the Unbound Universe. -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] ([[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|✉️]]) 22:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
SOME SPOILERS AHEAD FOR MASTERFUL -Basically what happens is the first Kamelion goes off in the time scoop with Jo. Then back at the castle Missy tells Gatiss to go to her space yacht where her “butler” is waiting for him. Then we get more scenes with Jo and Kamelion before Kamelion sacrifices himself for Jo. And then Missy turns up and meets up with Jo. Then we get scenes of Gatiss and Kamelion in Missy’s space yacht and it’s made clear later that Kamelion was always working for Missy. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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Is he actually a shape-changer? I thought it was just a type of holographic illusion. -Azes13

Turlough asks this inThe Crystal Bucephalus, and it is cobfirmed Kamelion genuinely changes

Prop's current whereabouts[[edit source]]

Does the Kamelion prop still exist? Anyone know? 202.89.149.41 08:32, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

The Awakening[[edit source]]

I know that he only appeared in a deleted scene in this story, but you can still watch it on DVD and it was supposed to be on T.V., and there's no reason why it can't be canon so can we include the Awakening on Kamelion's appearence list.The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fireball99 (talk • contribs) .

Actually, there's a very good reason why it can't be included — a forum decision decided that deleted scenes are not to be included on in universe articles. Please see Tardis:Valid sources and Forum:Are deleted scenes canon?. Thanks. Shambala108 17:50, October 18, 2014 (UTC)


Missing info[[edit source]]

This page is missing info from "devil in the mist" "power game", and "black thursday" GarfielfStuff 21:46, February 25, 2019 (UTC)

Masterful[[edit source]]

I've seen discuzsions online, people are confused as to whether Kamelion is in this, or just another one (or maybe two) of his kind. John Culshaw doesn't use his Getald Flood voice

Well I can’t speak to whether Culshaw’s Kamelion voice is the same as the Fifth Doctor trilogy (as I haven’t heard the trilogy), but there isn’t any indication in Masterful that it isn’t the original Kamelion in the story. The Masters seem to treat it as the Kamelion they’re familiar with. SherlockTheII 22:14, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Not only does Culshaw not use the Gerald Flood voice, but there also seems to be two Kamelions in the story. One gets killed off and the other takes over his role in the story. It’s a blink and you’ll miss it thing but unless Kamelion can be in two places at once there’s definitely more than one. SarahJaneFan 22:18, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Given that he's with the Unbound Master in the bonus scene, I assumed he was from the Unbound Universe. -- Saxon (✉️) 22:26, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

SOME SPOILERS AHEAD FOR MASTERFUL -Basically what happens is the first Kamelion goes off in the time scoop with Jo. Then back at the castle Missy tells Gatiss to go to her space yacht where her “butler” is waiting for him. Then we get more scenes with Jo and Kamelion before Kamelion sacrifices himself for Jo. And then Missy turns up and meets up with Jo. Then we get scenes of Gatiss and Kamelion in Missy’s space yacht and it’s made clear later that Kamelion was always working for Missy. SarahJaneFan 22:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)