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Has an official name for these guys been given? I personally like "The Swarm" a lot better than "alien stingrays", but I didn't want to rename the page if that's the official designation. - [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 23:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Has an official name for these guys been given? I personally like "The Swarm" a lot better than "alien stingrays", but I didn't want to rename the page if that's the official designation. - [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 23:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:Now that I note that there's already a page for [[The Swarm]], how about "The Swarm (The Invisible Enemy)" and "The Swarm (Planet of the Dead)"? Or, alternately, "The Swarm" and "The Swarm (virus)"? [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 04:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
:Now that I note that there's already a page for [[The Swarm]], how about "The Swarm (The Invisible Enemy)" and "The Swarm (Planet of the Dead)"? Or, alternately, "The Swarm" and "The Swarm (virus)"? [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 04:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
::I'm firmly opposed to a name change. The only name given to them by the script is "alien stingray". This name is also used in the accompanying ''Confidential'', and in some material on the official site. Sure, it may not be their ''actual'' name, but it is "official" in the sense that it's the only one the BBC have given us. One definitely gets the sense that it's the name entered in the official UNIT files. Come to think of it, they probably don't have a "proper" name, because they're not shown to be sentient. Any names are those given by other species. Is the real name of horses "horse"? Let's ask one and find out . . . '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 17:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
::I'm firmly opposed to a name change. The only name given to them by the script is "alien stingray". This name is also used in the accompanying ''Confidential'', and in some material on the official site. Sure, it may not be their ''actual'' name, but it is "official" in the sense that it's the only one the BBC have given us. One definitely gets the sense that it's the name entered in the official UNIT files. Come to think of it, they probably don't have a "proper" name, because they're not shown to be sentient. Any names are those given by other species. Is the real name of horses "horse"? Let's ask one and find out . . . '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 17:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


:::I'm not really for a change of name either. Though for a slightly different reason (though I agree more or less with CzechOut's point). When they're referred to, or how the characters relate to the stingrays it's as a singular or three rather than as a swarm. The information about them is gathered from the individual encounters; the stingray eating the Tritovores, Christina's encounter and the three that go through the wormhole all more or less singular encounters with the single stingray, rather than as a collective whole.
:::I'm not really for a change of name either. Though for a slightly different reason (though I agree more or less with CzechOut's point). When they're referred to, or how the characters relate to the stingrays it's as a singular or three rather than as a swarm. The information about them is gathered from the individual encounters; the stingray eating the Tritovores, Christina's encounter and the three that go through the wormhole all more or less singular encounters with the single stingray, rather than as a collective whole.
:::We can always chuck a <nowiki>{{conjecture}}</nowiki> on the page if there's still some contention over the name. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 17:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
:::We can always chuck a <nowiki>{{conjecture}}</nowiki> on the page if there's still some contention over the name. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 17:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: The only reason I was agitating for a name change was really my dislike of the name "alien stingray". I agree, the name "The Swarm" is never used in or out of universe, and C/O has a good point. But still think it sounds a bit dopey. Oh well; somebody out there probably thinks "The Doctor" is a terrible name for a protagonist. - [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 06:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: The only reason I was agitating for a name change was really my dislike of the name "alien stingray". I agree, the name "The Swarm" is never used in or out of universe, and C/O has a good point. But still think it sounds a bit dopey. Oh well; somebody out there probably thinks "The Doctor" is a terrible name for a protagonist. - [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] 06:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Just reanimating a thread here, but I really think we should move this page back to "alien stringray". It's really awkward to refer to the individuals as a swarm, there already a page called "the Swarm" (and there no need to overcomplicate things), the Swarm is too vague a title to be really useful and having the disambiguity and the conjecture at the top of the page just clogs it up. Other options besides "alien stringray" are encouraged, but the Swarm title just bothers me. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 03:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:If anyone's interested the BBC's Doctor Who Adventures magazine consistantly make reference to simply "Stingray" even including a 'Make your own Stingray' ! not the best make it to be honest, but the 'Make your own Crucible' really is crap! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 23:32, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
:I personally think that this page should be renamed The Swarm and The Swarm (The Invisible Enemy) be The Swarm (virus). Alien Stingray is used as a generalization by the BBC, I think it should be named Stingray before Alien Stingray. I also have heard The Swarm used on BBC websites, wheras Alien Stingray hasn't. I believe The Swarm is probably the most canon name, then Stingray and finally Alien Stingray. [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 05:05, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
::I think it should be named Alien Stingray because, as it was stated above, it's the only name given to us. Who named it The Swarm anyway? How can one creature be a swarm?? --[[User:Donovan-j-charlie|Donovan-j-charlie]] 20:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be called Stingray. This has been given in a few sources, i.e. ''[[Doctor Who: The Ultimate Monster Guide]]'' and ''[[Doctor Who Adventures]]'' and I seem to remember [[Russell T Davies]] referring to them as this on an interview on the [[Doctor Who website]]. I think Stingray is definitely the most canon name we've heard so far. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] 03:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
There aren't any objections, so I'm going to rename it Stingray. I hope there are no issues. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! [[User:Bigredrabbit|Bigredrabbit]] ('''[[User talk:Bigredrabbit|talk to me]]''') 07:45, February 8, 2010 (UTC)
:Well my vote before had been for "alien stingray" not just stingray. Alien stingray is the only name provided in script. And stingray should be reserved for disambig use, what with [[flying stingray]] already out there and a comic stingray yet to be written. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 00:20, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
== Picture ==
could someone change the main(and only)picture? {{Unsigned|203.171.123.114}}
Whats wrong with it ? [[User:Bigshowbower|Bigshowbower]] 10:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
well i don't think its good at all {{Unsigned|203.171.123.114}}
I thought the picture was good {{Unsigned|SuperHeroChaos}}
: It's the clearest I've seen so far!! So I vote to keep it![[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 23:33, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
:: Same here infact I have to say who asked to change the picture? --Catkind121 10:48, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
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:: I have a better one, I think. How do I show it to everyone so it can be considered?Vanguard Warrior 09:26, November 4, 2010 (UTC)
== Removal of conjecture tag ==
I've removed the conjecture tag because [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Time Lord Letters (novel)|The Time Lord Letters]]'' calls these creatures stingrays. On page 163, from the introduction to the UNIT section which is written by the author of the in-universe text ''[[The Time Lord Letters]]'': "He defeated the Sycorax, was recalled by Martha Jones to battle Sontarans, and helped to fight off deadly '''flying stingrays'''". I'm sure we're all happy to put THAT one to rest for good! :P [[User:Toqgers|Toqgers]] [[User talk:Toqgers|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:00, April 6, 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:00, 6 April 2020

Official name?[[edit source]]

Has an official name for these guys been given? I personally like "The Swarm" a lot better than "alien stingrays", but I didn't want to rename the page if that's the official designation. - Monkey with a Gun 23:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Now that I note that there's already a page for The Swarm, how about "The Swarm (The Invisible Enemy)" and "The Swarm (Planet of the Dead)"? Or, alternately, "The Swarm" and "The Swarm (virus)"? Monkey with a Gun 04:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm firmly opposed to a name change. The only name given to them by the script is "alien stingray". This name is also used in the accompanying Confidential, and in some material on the official site. Sure, it may not be their actual name, but it is "official" in the sense that it's the only one the BBC have given us. One definitely gets the sense that it's the name entered in the official UNIT files. Come to think of it, they probably don't have a "proper" name, because they're not shown to be sentient. Any names are those given by other species. Is the real name of horses "horse"? Let's ask one and find out . . . CzechOut | 17:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not really for a change of name either. Though for a slightly different reason (though I agree more or less with CzechOut's point). When they're referred to, or how the characters relate to the stingrays it's as a singular or three rather than as a swarm. The information about them is gathered from the individual encounters; the stingray eating the Tritovores, Christina's encounter and the three that go through the wormhole all more or less singular encounters with the single stingray, rather than as a collective whole.
We can always chuck a {{conjecture}} on the page if there's still some contention over the name. --Tangerineduel 17:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
The only reason I was agitating for a name change was really my dislike of the name "alien stingray". I agree, the name "The Swarm" is never used in or out of universe, and C/O has a good point. But still think it sounds a bit dopey. Oh well; somebody out there probably thinks "The Doctor" is a terrible name for a protagonist. - Monkey with a Gun 06:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Just reanimating a thread here, but I really think we should move this page back to "alien stringray". It's really awkward to refer to the individuals as a swarm, there already a page called "the Swarm" (and there no need to overcomplicate things), the Swarm is too vague a title to be really useful and having the disambiguity and the conjecture at the top of the page just clogs it up. Other options besides "alien stringray" are encouraged, but the Swarm title just bothers me. -<Azes13 03:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

If anyone's interested the BBC's Doctor Who Adventures magazine consistantly make reference to simply "Stingray" even including a 'Make your own Stingray' ! not the best make it to be honest, but the 'Make your own Crucible' really is crap! The Librarian 23:32, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
I personally think that this page should be renamed The Swarm and The Swarm (The Invisible Enemy) be The Swarm (virus). Alien Stingray is used as a generalization by the BBC, I think it should be named Stingray before Alien Stingray. I also have heard The Swarm used on BBC websites, wheras Alien Stingray hasn't. I believe The Swarm is probably the most canon name, then Stingray and finally Alien Stingray. Bigredrabbit 05:05, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
I think it should be named Alien Stingray because, as it was stated above, it's the only name given to us. Who named it The Swarm anyway? How can one creature be a swarm?? --Donovan-j-charlie 20:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be called Stingray. This has been given in a few sources, i.e. Doctor Who: The Ultimate Monster Guide and Doctor Who Adventures and I seem to remember Russell T Davies referring to them as this on an interview on the Doctor Who website. I think Stingray is definitely the most canon name we've heard so far. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit 03:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


There aren't any objections, so I'm going to rename it Stingray. I hope there are no issues. I'm A Hydroponic Tomato! Bigredrabbit (talk to me) 07:45, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well my vote before had been for "alien stingray" not just stingray. Alien stingray is the only name provided in script. And stingray should be reserved for disambig use, what with flying stingray already out there and a comic stingray yet to be written. CzechOut | 00:20, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Picture[[edit source]]

could someone change the main(and only)picture? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.171.123.114 (talk • contribs) .

Whats wrong with it ? Bigshowbower 10:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

well i don't think its good at all The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.171.123.114 (talk • contribs) .

I thought the picture was good The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperHeroChaos (talk • contribs) .

It's the clearest I've seen so far!! So I vote to keep it!The Librarian 23:33, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
Same here infact I have to say who asked to change the picture? --Catkind121 10:48, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
I have a better one, I think. How do I show it to everyone so it can be considered?Vanguard Warrior 09:26, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of conjecture tag[[edit source]]

I've removed the conjecture tag because PROSE: The Time Lord Letters calls these creatures stingrays. On page 163, from the introduction to the UNIT section which is written by the author of the in-universe text The Time Lord Letters: "He defeated the Sycorax, was recalled by Martha Jones to battle Sontarans, and helped to fight off deadly flying stingrays". I'm sure we're all happy to put THAT one to rest for good! :P Toqgers 04:00, April 6, 2020 (UTC)