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**It's not mentioned that they're different species either. For now, they could either be different species or nations. And we clearly see that it's how April imagines the planet, there's a close-up on her when we see the flashbacks and we see people with school uniforms etc. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:15, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | **It's not mentioned that they're different species either. For now, they could either be different species or nations. And we clearly see that it's how April imagines the planet, there's a close-up on her when we see the flashbacks and we see people with school uniforms etc. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:15, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | ||
As I see it, different species makes much better sense. And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet. Zooming in on April does not mean that she is imagining it... Plus, the flashback starts before that, until she interrupts him, and then it continues. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:38, October 25, 2016 (UTC) | As I see it, different species makes much better sense. And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet. Zooming in on April does not mean that she is imagining it... Plus, the flashback starts before that, until she interrupts him, and then it continues. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:38, October 25, 2016 (UTC) | ||
: | : "And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet" Surely not Coal Hill School uniforms? [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:18, October 26, 2016 (UTC) | ||
The way I took it was that April was imagining the flashback (hence the school uniforms) and then I thought that their alien form was being thought about by Charlie and Quill, though I wasn't entirely sure about that. | The way I took it was that April was imagining the flashback (hence the school uniforms) and then I thought that their alien form was being thought about by Charlie and Quill, though I wasn't entirely sure about that. | ||
[[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:38, October 26, 2016 (UTC) | [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:38, October 26, 2016 (UTC) | ||
::I thought it was her thinking about what they might "actually" look like when looking at them. Anyway, I wouldn't put that appearance as "fact" in the article until it's confirmed otherwise. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] | |||
::I think the most conclusive evidence for their appearance is when Charlie 'sees' his parents. In the brief flash we see them, they appear to have light skin, and have a humanoid form. I think that we can safely assume that Rhodians look more or less like humans. I'll add this to the page, and evidence via images. Furthermore, it's reasonable to assume that April imagined the non human-like form, considering that Miss Quill's form had multiple spines protruding from it's back, and which April could have associated because of her name, which there is no evidence has anything to do with her appearance. [[User:Moonlit Discoveries|Moonlit Discoveries]] [[User talk:Moonlit Discoveries|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] | |||
I added a sentence saying that it's unclear whether that was their true form. [[User:JagoAndLitefoot|JagoAndLitefoot]] [[User talk:JagoAndLitefoot|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:24, October 26, 2016 (UTC) | |||
== The Rhodia == | == The Rhodia == | ||
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:::::Note that "a Rhodia" is never a construction used, and should be considered incorrect. "The Rhodia"/"The Rhodians"/"A Rhodian" are all valid.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 19:36, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | :::::Note that "a Rhodia" is never a construction used, and should be considered incorrect. "The Rhodia"/"The Rhodians"/"A Rhodian" are all valid.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 19:36, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | ||
::::::I agree with SOTO. As both are actually used, both should be valid, while the current title should stay to differentiate planet and species. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:35, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | ::::::I agree with SOTO. As both are actually used, both should be valid, while the current title should stay to differentiate planet and species. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:35, October 24, 2016 (UTC) | ||
The lack of continuity is irritating. Charlie says it three different ways. In the last episode, [[Co-Owner of a Lonely Heart (TV story)|Co-Owner of a Lonely Heart]], he used both; "Rhodan" and "Rhodian" but he's also used "Rhodia" in the past. Very odd. --[[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:37, November 5, 2016 (UTC) | |||
: The Governors file on hims spells it "Rhodian". And they clearly did their research. I suggest for us to simply believe them. :) (And yes, it is irritating.) [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:33, November 5, 2016 (UTC) | |||
::It occured to me earlier that Rhodian could be the name of Charlie's species but Rhodia could be the name of any species native to the planet Rhodia, the Quill included. Obviously this is just a theory but I rewatched some scenes earlier and when Charlie said "Rhodian" he was specifically meaning his species but when he said "Rhodia" he was talking more openly - or so I found, I could be wrong. --[[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:36, November 5, 2016 (UTC) |
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Biology[[edit source]]
The Rhodia planet that is shown is obviously one that April imagines and we don't know how it looks like. The "real" appearance is also something that April imagines, and not the actual appearance. Also, it's not stated explicitly whether the Rhodia and the Quill are really different species or different nations of the same species. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:30, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
- And how do you know that?? As I see it, we see Charlie's vision of the planet. And if they are the same species, why is that never mentioned? It's the same as Earth being inhabited by different species. --DCLM ☎ 18:26, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
- It's not mentioned that they're different species either. For now, they could either be different species or nations. And we clearly see that it's how April imagines the planet, there's a close-up on her when we see the flashbacks and we see people with school uniforms etc. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:15, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
As I see it, different species makes much better sense. And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet. Zooming in on April does not mean that she is imagining it... Plus, the flashback starts before that, until she interrupts him, and then it continues. --DCLM ☎ 22:38, October 25, 2016 (UTC)
- "And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet" Surely not Coal Hill School uniforms? JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 13:18, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
The way I took it was that April was imagining the flashback (hence the school uniforms) and then I thought that their alien form was being thought about by Charlie and Quill, though I wasn't entirely sure about that.
SarahJaneFan ☎ 10:38, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
- I thought it was her thinking about what they might "actually" look like when looking at them. Anyway, I wouldn't put that appearance as "fact" in the article until it's confirmed otherwise. JagoAndLitefoot ☎
- I think the most conclusive evidence for their appearance is when Charlie 'sees' his parents. In the brief flash we see them, they appear to have light skin, and have a humanoid form. I think that we can safely assume that Rhodians look more or less like humans. I'll add this to the page, and evidence via images. Furthermore, it's reasonable to assume that April imagined the non human-like form, considering that Miss Quill's form had multiple spines protruding from it's back, and which April could have associated because of her name, which there is no evidence has anything to do with her appearance. Moonlit Discoveries ☎
I added a sentence saying that it's unclear whether that was their true form. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 13:24, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
The Rhodia[[edit source]]
The subtitles confirm that the species is the Rhodia and not Rhodian. We need a name change. --90.197.224.187talk to me 14:18, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
- Well... that is a bit tricky. Because both versions are used. Charlie and Quill says "Rhodia", but the Doctor says "Rhodian". Are we to assume that (speaking strictly about the species) that these two are interchangable, like "cycle" and "bicycle"? --DCLM ☎ 18:31, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
- I'd argue Rhodia (species) should be a redirect, and another valid way to refer to them collectively throughout the wiki. I agree that Rhodian should remain the title of this page, as it offers the greatest distinction, and both the Doctor and an actual Rhodian use it within the narrative.
- Note that "a Rhodia" is never a construction used, and should be considered incorrect. "The Rhodia"/"The Rhodians"/"A Rhodian" are all valid.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 19:36, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
The lack of continuity is irritating. Charlie says it three different ways. In the last episode, Co-Owner of a Lonely Heart, he used both; "Rhodan" and "Rhodian" but he's also used "Rhodia" in the past. Very odd. --Xx-connor-xX ☎ 10:37, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
- The Governors file on hims spells it "Rhodian". And they clearly did their research. I suggest for us to simply believe them. :) (And yes, it is irritating.) Amorkuz ☎ 23:33, November 5, 2016 (UTC)
- It occured to me earlier that Rhodian could be the name of Charlie's species but Rhodia could be the name of any species native to the planet Rhodia, the Quill included. Obviously this is just a theory but I rewatched some scenes earlier and when Charlie said "Rhodian" he was specifically meaning his species but when he said "Rhodia" he was talking more openly - or so I found, I could be wrong. --Xx-connor-xX ☎ 23:36, November 5, 2016 (UTC)